New iPod touch gets a speed test, zips right on by
By Laura June 
posted Sep 16th 2009 11:06AM
posted Sep 16th 2009 11:06AM
The new generation of the iPod touch, we've been told, is roughly 50 percent faster than the previous iteration. Well, the fine folks over at the iPhone Blog have done a bit of information collecting on just that topic -- to see if Apple's latest is actually that much faster. Macworld did testing which showed a reduction in boot times from 31 to 19 seconds, web page loading (using the New York Times) went from 34 to 15 seconds, while app launching saw time reductions across the board. So -- in essence -- yes, the newest iPod touch is about 50 percent faster than the previous model in terms of performance. Hit the read link to hear even more tantalizing details.
Nothing we didn't expect after the 3GS... Anythings else interesting?
lol Hardly 3rd genration stuff. ¬_¬
It beats the heck out of Tegra based IE browser. Is that what you want to hear?
Is that interesting enough?
@ Olay
you and a whole lot of other trolls need to get this through your heads: NOBODY cares about the processor in a PMP.
WALKMAN FTW.
Engadget users love to read specs. It's NOBODY in the real world that cares about that sort of crap. Nothing like running up to a salesperson asking for the PMP with the 1GHz Snapdragon or ARM Cortex-8 processor. Nothing but blank stares will follow and not a soul will be impressed by your knowledge.
Yeah, the Zune HD. Sorry had to do it.
Still it´s missing a little circle on it´s shinny back.
How does this compare to iPhone 3GS... is it the same?
That's what I was wondering. Is the performance identical to the 3GS?
It should be an insignificantly small amount faster actually, as the processor is a couple (unpublicized) models ahead numerically. So like... 10mhz faster or something stupid :p
The CPU is labeled as slightly newer model number but it and the GPU are likely the same speed as the 3GS. The old Touch with the same CPU and GPU as the 3G was faster. Besides having the clock speed turned up higher the Touch has less software to run since it’s not a phone. It should beat any iPhone to date in performance.
Well, if all my 2g accessories work with it, I may be tempted (looks like it is the same case)
Speaking as someone who bought the 64 gig the moment I could (Within 5 minutes of the store coming back up during the event) I can tell you that the 2g accessories seem to work fine, the form factor isn't any different, nor does it seem to complain about the connectors.
It's replacing my old 5th gen video, and I inherited old accessories from my sister whom has a 16g.
I'd determined from the first time I saw the 8gig original that when the size surpassed what I already had, I'd get one, so bam.
I could care less...
You cared enough to post.
Yeah, no Oled no deal. Get with the times Apple....
Well.... you cared enough to post a comment.
*sigh*
http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/care_less.html
I still respect him for his opinion
I am over this apple craze
(this message was sent using a zune HD)
You do CARE if you're a gamer! Even if you are not, all apps (e.g Safari, Mail, Social apps, etc.)
on iPod Touch will run much faster.
@Argot
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/14/from_oled_to_tegra_five_myths_of_the_zune_hd.html
I haven't handled a ZuneHD yet, but look forward to giving it a run through. So far, though...that OLED isn't living up to all the expectations (solely from what I've read online and a couple of friends that picked one up...and some who returned it...)
All these replies and no one pointed out that the term is “I couldn’t care less.”
Argot, your link is full of fanboy excrement.
Actually, you "couldn't" care less. If you could care less, then you still have a ways to go until you are out of care.
I could care.. more?
@Tropf: You're linking to an appleinsider article about the zune hd? Hmm, I bet that's not biased at all. Try the wikipedia article on OLED. By the way, from using my 32GB and using it in blaring sunlight, problems with glare and such are no worse than on an LCD. The screen itself seems to not be very reflective, meaning you don't end up losing anything. The only problem is glare from the glass, which is an equal problem on the iPod Touch/any other player with a glass screen. When you're not in intense sunlight(can still be well lit, just not holding it so it's reflecting the sun straight into your eyes) it looks infinitely better than any player I've ever seen.
Perhaps he genuinely means that he COULD care less, rather than the more usual "couldn't care less". After all, if he "couldn't care less" he would not have posted at all would he?
Guz: Now, frankly that's the one that bothers me: why do people say I could care less when they really mean, I couldn't care less!? (from Psych, season 3)
English is a foreign language to me and frankly, I never understood that saying. I mean, that's the _opposite_ of what the person actually wants to say! If the sentence was too long, there would be words in it that would be less important (and longer). But the word "not" is the key word of the whole phrase, since it negates the sentence and therefore determines its meaning. The mysteries of life...
That AppleInsider article is pure vitriol and should not be taken serious by anyone comparing these products.
The writer goes out of their way to try and slam the Zune HD, spewing a lot of bullshit that is, atleast in part, patently false.
The part about Windows CE being a joke in the "industry" and saying of Windows Mobile: " Given its dismal performance in the market over the last decade, that reputation is well earned." is pretty fscking hilarious given there are far more WinMo phones sold than iPhones (AND THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS, RIGHT APPLITES? Better doesn't matter, just "Market Share" AMIRITE?!?!)
Disclaimer:
I would never own a WinMo phone for personal use, and will be trading in my G1 for an iPhone soon.
Just wanted to make that known lmao
He said he COULD care less. Not that he couldn't care less. Those people didn't actually care enough to post.
So, he could care less, obviously. If he couldn't care less, he wouldn't be posting.
On the other hand, I couldn't care less about this iPod Touch, but I couldn't care more about twisted semantics angry posts.
I prefer pie to cake
The cake is a pie!
No, Godzilla breathed fire... at&t breathes lies about how much better its 3g is than everyone elses
Sent from my iPhone
I compared a 3rd gen 32 gb ipod touch, next to my 32 gb iphone 3gs and the touch was definitely a bit faster when loading applications.
Lies!
no lies, side by side it loaded apps faster, but not by much
so thats your solution to multitasking huh? lol
having more than 1 iphone is not very practical for the rest of us
But! Does your shiny iPod touch come with AT&T's stellar service and awesome 2 year contract? HA! I didn't think so...
lol.. jk.. this is disappointing to hear considering I just picked up a 3GS.
@Mr Blue
You're supposed to be SELLING the iPhone. Not making folks want to walk away, LMAO.
Just say it's with a 'carrier', ATT will just make folks scream and run like Godzilla.
Next year iphone HD, ipod touch HD? Camera and 720p HD output
I think it would be good to get HD video output. Not all users require a fancy media center PC or Mac to occasionally watch movies or listen to music from TV and A/V receiver in their digital living room. This is also a good tip for those traveling frequently and staying at hotels or temporarily staying out of town:
http://mymediaexperience.com/how-to-use-ipod-or-iphone-as-media-player-for-hdtv/
iPhone 3GHDs??
@Engadgetier
That might imply they are capable of straightening hair...they've got the heat part sorted
@DR House
Haven't you heard? Cameras are a bag of hurt.
@DR House
Nice avatar
When N97 and 5800 get firmware updates that add better kinetic scrolling, faster clock speed on processors, and more friendly UI, they go un-noticed by Engadget.
I'm starting to thing Apple pays you for this stuff.....
They gave the n900 some decent enough coverage through. I'm pretty confident I will get one of those over the new Touch, but I'll have to wait a while after they both come out to be sure.
Some people just can not be satisfied. I'm FAR from liking Apple. But they did a WHOLE coverage on Android/Motorola, Palm Pixe, Zune HD, Hero...other things besides Apple products.
It seems some people only pay attention to the things they want to complain about.
Basic human nature.
we need a speed test comparison
Zune HD IE vs iPod Touch S Safari
Well, as much as I don't like to admit it, after using my ZHD online, I think the browser probably isn't as good as that of the iPhone's.
We'll see what future firmware updates brings tho.
you expected a good browser from internet explorer makers?
I don't know if i should laugh or cry
Even with Tegra? So much for Tegra. Once again Zune has failed! :)
well the "gadget industry experts" said that it was "amazing" and all this so yeah, I expected a lot.
It's a very usable and good browser, but it lacks the polish of the (now 3rd generation or better) iPhone/Pod browser.
@Zack
Move along troll
Everything I've read suggests that Zune IE is simply not on par with Safari Mobile. MS has been in the game longer than almost anyone, and they still can't come up with an awesome mobile browser. That being said, I'm not sure that this will prohibit me from getting the Zune HD. I assume that when WinMo 7 comes out, hopefully with its much improved browser, similar performance-enhancing updates will be rolled out to the Zune's OS.
It'll get better, the emphasis with this device wasn't on the browser near as much as it was on the media experience.
Safari had to be spot-on because that was one of if not the singular most important feature of the iPhone at the time of launch, and it's obviously been in the world for over 3 years now getting incrementally better over the years.
Gizmodo's Zune HD review said that the IE-based browser was excellent, but slightly slower than Mobile Safari. They didn't make it sound like a big deal, but I think an iPod touch would win a browser speed contest pretty handily.
I think instead of opening NY times, they should compared using engadget.com, sice engadget site is heavily loaded with flash content i guess. That may give a clearer picture.
Flash does not work on the iPhone or iPod Touch.
Not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic.
I was both serious and sarcastic. ;)
Can't wait to see what some unbiased sources have to say about it!
lol!
So is this what we accept when they make NO improvements to the audio aspect of it...you know...what a MP3 player is SUPPOSED to do.
-facepalm-
I just thought that, you know, the iPod was a music device. Not a MID...because that's what it's being seen by me as of now.
Come to the dark side, we have excellent sound quality and library management here :)
What audio improvements are left to make, beyond the Ogg patent mindfield that Apple's rightfully never going to touch?
It stopped being an MP3 player 4 years ago. Go back to 2005 and get an iPod 30GB.
@dagamer
That's what I realized!!! LOL
But there are always improvements to the audio quality where the iPod is concerned.
Many reviews have put the quality lower than other MP3 players. If you notice nowadays...most reviews focus on things like this. Speed, apps, and browser. They'll never mention one thing about the MP3 aspect of the MP3 player. =\
More codecs could be added (I'm looking at you divX), equalizer still haven't been added, a little better management of the ONLY way you can handle music on it.
I mean...it seems like they've given up making it for music. By my accounts, it should not even be included in the MP3 market anymore. It's way beyond that now.
iDavey:
I basically stopped thinking of the iPod Touch as an MP3 player after using it for a few days. I decided I was tired of the 1st generation Touch when I had no way of controlling audio playback (volume/play/pause) without looking at it. I sold the Touch and got a Zune 120 for all my media-usage needs. Now, though, I want to get a good PDA, and despite waiting for the Zune HD to hopefully fill that gap, but Microsoft's Q&A about the future of the HD makes it look like the iPod Touch is the only game in town right now.
PDA? Yes, with an emphasis on gaming.
MP3 Player? That focus was killed off long ago.
"web page loading (using the New York Times) went from 34 to 15 seconds "
increase in page loading speed due to processor upgrade ?
i have Core2Duo running @ 3Ghz , that means it can load it in ~ less than 5 secs ?
i thought it has to do with the connection speed.. or am i missing something here ?
There are many variables. Since there is more ram and a faster processor, the pages will load faster, WiFi connection does matter in some aspects, as i'm sure these were tested on the same network. I just upgraded to a Macbook Pro from a Powerbook G4, and web pages load faster on my Macbook.
in a mobile device, the rendering of the page by the proc is usually the bottleneck, as opposed to your PC where your proc is more than enough to render a page fully in a few nanoseconds and pass it along to the various subsystems (graphics etc).
The data still goes through the processor so the code is 'analyzed' so the page is formatted and set properly. Everything is stored in the RAM. You cannot expect to hook up a screen to the internet and expect it to work, do?
btw 5 seconds is like whoa. hahaha
my dual core nahalem xeon loads it in about a second, maybe less :P
The processor definitely slows down the rendering of pages on a mobile device. On my Android phone, web browsing on Edge or 3G is an almost identical experience because the processor isn't fast enough to render the pages as the data comes in.
If I'm tethering my PC to the Android phone, the difference between Edge and 3G is pretty huge, because the processor is just way faster and it just sits around waiting for more data to come in.
Websites load faster on a desktop when using AdBlock... when it's not pulling stuff from 15 external servers.
hear hear for Adblock Plus!!
Apple, please lift the software limitation on playing/outputting HD on the iPod touch 3G/iPhone 3GS. We know that it is capable of HD, hardware wise. But the software is holding it back.
You do? The best it's been able to do is downgrade HD to HVGA and play that. Even then it had some problems.
@Mark
The iPod touch 3rd generation has an ARM Cortex-A8 833 MHz (underclocked to 600MHz). Thats the same power as a Tegra. If the ZuneHD can play 720p, why can't the iPod touch 3G or iPhone 3GS? And of course, we know, because its a Software/Firmware limitation.
I wish I could reply to replies within the comments instead of replying on my own and then having to.. ugh nevermind.
@ Teslanaut
yeah the comment system here sucks.
My guess is that it's "underclocked" to manage the heat issue with the CPU confined in such a small package.
Lol calm down you have a point about software limitations. It can drive people to do crazy things, such as the encryption/non-encryption lies Apple was going through in Exchange. That was brutal, but that's over. However Mark is right, the best solution to HD on the 3GS so far is HVGA, and while I admit that it's performance is so-so; it's still on it's way, and Apple should get full HD up and running. As for the processor stuff you were talking about, you could also ask why Apple is underclocking their devices, and pray for FiWa (FirmWare) Updates that clock the A8 to it's normal speed. That would make the 3GS run more optimized IMO.
Apple may slap you in the face once or twice, but trust me by next year you'll get full HD =).
@Teslanaut: You're right, the processor itself is on par with the Tegra chip. However, as someone who's tried to play an HD video on a core 2 quad with an older graphics card I can tell you that processor speed means pretty much nothing when it comes to this. The graphics processor of the Tegra chip outclasses that of the iPod Touch/iPhone 3GS and was built especially to handle HD video. The graphics hardware in the iPod and iPhone just isn't as capable.
Did they do heat testing on it as well? My guess is it gets 50% hotter as well. :)
I just want to know what is the name of the tennis game and can I download it to my 3gs.
Thanks
Tennis Slam by FinBlade. Its $2.99 in the app store
I've seen a few reports as well that say the 3rd generation touch is a bit faster than the 3gs..there are some videos floating around which demonstrate this also. How accurate this is I have no idea.
It's probably a little bit snappier just because it isn't running as much stuff in the background. There's no phone dialer or SMS receiver eating up CPU cycles at all times. There might be a service or two that manages the GSM connection on an iPhone, too, I'm not sure.
meh, the 8gb version doesnt have more ram or faster cpu, its EXACTLY the same:(
All I care about is what is the name of that tennis game and will it work on my 3gs.
Cool I think I should download it quickly!
I wish the android devices had the same type of games as the iphone... if only.
It's been shown that unlike iPhone users, Android users are more about productivity and social networking when comparing the type of apps downloaded.
it was a buddys ipod touch, still happy with the 3gs, way faster than my first gen iphone
That's nice, but it's STILL SLOWER than a Zune HD
Nope, it is faster than the Zune HD.
Let me know when it can play back true HD video without pausing, jittering, freezing, and altogether crashing.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/20/iphone-3gs-totally-capable-of-1080p-video-playback/
Sorry, still faster
WHATS THAT FLIGHT SIMULATOR ON THE RIGHT
I hope so...I"ll definitely upgrade from my 3GS to the new iPhone if it's HD and supports multitasking. Hell even if it does only 1 of those things I'm upgrading.
Apple has created the best phone I've ever used and if they continue to improve on it I'll continue to buy it. Even if it means paying more with AT&T.
If Sprint gets the iPhone in the future on WiMax or w/e then perhaps I'll return although I wasn't really happy with their customer service nor with their signal quality.