Paul Otellini just held up a 22nm wafer at his Intel Developer Forum keynote, saying that chips with the technology would be out in the second half of 2011. Take a good look, kids: that's 2.9 billion transistors right there.
I believe silicon wafers are spun in part of the production process, naturally creating a round wafer. Making it rectangular would require extra manufacturing steps and waste more of the material.
Interestingly, if you get a die cut from the edge of the wafer you may end up with a faster processor than expected. Only a small selection of processors are actually tested for clock speeds and an average is taken to get the official rating. For some reason the ones that come from the edge of the wafer tend to run faster than those near the center...
thanks everyone for the info, it is indeed a very interesting proces. something you just take for granted but never really understood why. and there's some more movies on youtube, makes it very comprehendable.
Watch, DDR4 is going to get pushed out with this stuff... Also, I'm still waiting to get ANY of my pc's equipped with a DX10 graphics card, so until then...
Doesn't this break Moore's law? Shouldn't they be 22.5 nm instead of 22? This might cause a rift in the time space continuum if they release these, causing our robot overlords to enslave us with .5 nm more efficiency!
Whenever I see things like this I think about what it's gonna be like for the kids in 2050 or something. All the super awesome things that they have will seem normal and when we talk about all the stuff we had 'back in the day' we'll be positively archaic.
I thought it said 2010 and I was very confused and impressed for a second.
What will be interesting though-- it seems it's easier to etch memory on new processes than more complex circuits due to the simple repeating optical patterns-- if he has a 22nm wafer now, could it mean that 22nm SSDs may become available before that node is mature enough for complex central processors? Could we see a 22nm X-25 within 18 months?
There might be a few more than 2.8 billion transistors in that wafer. Seeing as there are 731 million transistors in a single Core I7, you would hope they could pack more than 4 chips on a wafer. NVidia's newest GPU has 1.4 Billion by itself.
One step closer to 100% silent computers with no moving parts and good performance, I'm really looking forward to these little chips. Cooling fans need to die already, they're a HUGE waste of good battery life.
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22nm
very impressive!!
How did they do it?!
They took a 32nm chip and cut 2.5nm off each side....No I'm sure its more complicated than that.
Years of appeasing the transistor-gods.
shame its released only 1 year before the WORLD ENDS
Engadget HQ hung over today or is it super short post day?
they were slow 2 days ago also.
i think they all go out partying twice a week.
Why's he holding up the new Muse LP?
Psch LP, we all know its a laser disc, that's why it's so big.
http://image.innealtoir.com/images/resistance.png
We shall see, my understanding is that this die shrink will be a lot harder for Intel to achieve decent yeilds with their current technology.
Here is hoping that IBM gives AMD a hand to stay in the game here....
Will it only run Windows 8?
why is it round?
Were you expecting rectangular with frosting in the layers?
well, is it too much to ask? :)
but really, if you fill up the square you get a bunch more than 2.9 billion right?
I believe that the wafer is just a circle shape cut from the large production wafer sheets that you find in the factory.
Each CPU has 2.9 billion transistors, not the wafer itself.
It's round because of the way the giant silicon crystals are made. It's an interesting process, worth reading up on.
Because the waver is cut from a round cilicon crystal which is round when it growths:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czochralski_process
but how cool would it be to have CPU's that were round? huh? who's with me? intel get on it.
I believe silicon wafers are spun in part of the production process, naturally creating a round wafer. Making it rectangular would require extra manufacturing steps and waste more of the material.
Interestingly, if you get a die cut from the edge of the wafer you may end up with a faster processor than expected. Only a small selection of processors are actually tested for clock speeds and an average is taken to get the official rating. For some reason the ones that come from the edge of the wafer tend to run faster than those near the center...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWVywhzuHnQ&feature=player_embedded#t=35
These are 200mm wafers not 300mm, but the process is similar.
thanks everyone for the info, it is indeed a very interesting proces. something you just take for granted but never really understood why. and there's some more movies on youtube, makes it very comprehendable.
Does this mean I'm gonna have to get another new motherboard?
not unless you minds sleepin with da fishes
Watch, DDR4 is going to get pushed out with this stuff... Also, I'm still waiting to get ANY of my pc's equipped with a DX10 graphics card, so until then...
Yeah, but it's the size of a dinner plate. And roughly the cost of one from Pottery Barn, amiright?
Doesn't this break Moore's law? Shouldn't they be 22.5 nm instead of 22? This might cause a rift in the time space continuum if they release these, causing our robot overlords to enslave us with .5 nm more efficiency!
What's smaller than a nanometer?
your penis
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=metric+prefixes
Whenever I see things like this I think about what it's gonna be like for the kids in 2050 or something. All the super awesome things that they have will seem normal and when we talk about all the stuff we had 'back in the day' we'll be positively archaic.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ibm-intel,6175.html
My next upgrade after my current Acer 3810 is to a laptop with the 22nm Haswell platform in 2012.
Ooops,
Anyway,
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ibm-intel,6175.html
Is Intel late or early in the 22 nm. As the above link is based on an article dated August '08.
I thought it said 2010 and I was very confused and impressed for a second.
What will be interesting though-- it seems it's easier to etch memory on new processes than more complex circuits due to the simple repeating optical patterns-- if he has a 22nm wafer now, could it mean that 22nm SSDs may become available before that node is mature enough for complex central processors? Could we see a 22nm X-25 within 18 months?
/Smart ass on
There might be a few more than 2.8 billion transistors in that wafer. Seeing as there are 731 million transistors in a single Core I7, you would hope they could pack more than 4 chips on a wafer. NVidia's newest GPU has 1.4 Billion by itself.
/Smart ass off
I need to get me one of those removable smart asses...
Interesting, but if there is no applications to use this power, so...
This made me a bit excited.
I'm so nerdy.
I cant even imagine what this means for laptops as software learns to handle multicores more efficiently.
Full day computing? 5 minute rips of DVDs?
Uh, it looks pretty. Why is it rainbow colored? It could just be shiny metal behind glass, for all we know.
Just read this morning at yahoo that AMD is one of the 10 companies on the enge of bankruptcy. SAD!!! :(
One thing that Yahoo probably forgot to mention is that Yahoo itself is on the verge of bankruptcy!
22 nm is the last stage before they're forced to start using nanoelectronics.
I call shenanigans! I only count a little over 2.6 billion on there.
22 nm looks bigger than I thought it would. That things gotta be a foot around. No wonder my pc tower is so tall.
Maybe they meant 2011nm chips
One step closer to 100% silent computers with no moving parts and good performance, I'm really looking forward to these little chips. Cooling fans need to die already, they're a HUGE waste of good battery life.
Nice, I bet Amd just shat themselves
lmao AMD still uses 45nm... OUCH