PS3 Motion Controller launching in March?
By Thomas Ricker 
posted September 22nd 2009 8:35AM
posted September 22nd 2009 8:35AM
Update: The document has been pulled. We've added the full text after the break.
[Via Gamesindustry.biz, thanks DarKlar]
Read [Warning: FTP link]
SCEA Meeting Aug 5th Notes
Aug 6 2009 – DRAFT FOR COMMENTS
Objectives of Meeting
* Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA
Sony PS3
* SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year
* Big announcement back half of year they can't talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals)
* SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment.
Motion Controller
* Spring 2010 launch (March in JP)
* No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1
* Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW
* SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example
* Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU
* Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability – think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs.
Alpha Protocol
* Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. "Mass Effect felt more RPG."
* Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team.
Planet 51
* Sell in of PS3 SKU – SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle.
* Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc)
* Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc).
Bayonetta
* Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure
* Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch.
* 3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs).
Vancouver 2010
* HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA
* Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories.
* HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc).
Sonic Racing
* Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters
o maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes
Yakuza
* Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).
* Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.
* SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.
AVP
* Another great HOME candidate
* AVP avatars
* Hybrid BD disc with movie
Iron Man 2
* Great candidate for HOME space – explore Tony Stark's lab etc.
* Should have one for Marvel in general.
PSU2
* Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both.
Valkyria 1937
* Could bundle with PSP as well.
Vanquish and Aliens: CM
* Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin's Creed for good examples).
* If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3.
Thor
SCEA would like a look at the code soon.
Sonic Anniversary
* Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc.
* "Best of Sonic" for around $99.
* SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania's flip it over/backwards)
PS2 emulator for PS3 (confidential)
* SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)
* For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads – similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc...
London Olympics
* Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration.
DC Digital Titles
* If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they're interested in having exclusively.
* If we give them a long period of exclusivity they'll give us more marketing support.
PSP Titles
* For SKU differentiation it's best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version.
* Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin's Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet – all massive franchises.
* SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat.
Aug 6 2009 – DRAFT FOR COMMENTS
Objectives of Meeting
* Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA
Sony PS3
* SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year
* Big announcement back half of year they can't talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals)
* SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment.
Motion Controller
* Spring 2010 launch (March in JP)
* No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1
* Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW
* SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example
* Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU
* Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability – think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs.
Alpha Protocol
* Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. "Mass Effect felt more RPG."
* Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team.
Planet 51
* Sell in of PS3 SKU – SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle.
* Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc)
* Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc).
Bayonetta
* Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure
* Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch.
* 3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs).
Vancouver 2010
* HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA
* Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories.
* HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc).
Sonic Racing
* Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters
o maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes
Yakuza
* Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).
* Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.
* SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.
AVP
* Another great HOME candidate
* AVP avatars
* Hybrid BD disc with movie
Iron Man 2
* Great candidate for HOME space – explore Tony Stark's lab etc.
* Should have one for Marvel in general.
PSU2
* Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both.
Valkyria 1937
* Could bundle with PSP as well.
Vanquish and Aliens: CM
* Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin's Creed for good examples).
* If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3.
Thor
SCEA would like a look at the code soon.
Sonic Anniversary
* Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc.
* "Best of Sonic" for around $99.
* SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania's flip it over/backwards)
PS2 emulator for PS3 (confidential)
* SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)
* For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads – similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc...
London Olympics
* Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration.
DC Digital Titles
* If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they're interested in having exclusively.
* If we give them a long period of exclusivity they'll give us more marketing support.
PSP Titles
* For SKU differentiation it's best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version.
* Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin's Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet – all massive franchises.
* SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat.
I probably use that as much as I use my wii...
So, every twenty minutes as long as the Kleenex lasts?
Hmmm this is from Sand Dollar Enterprises? I'd like to take this with a pinch of salt please.
Personally I'm tired of all the motion controllers. Give me a good old controller with buttons damnit!
Kinda somewhat awesome!!
No. Not at all really.
These FTP sites are typically download-only, so it's unlikely it was uploaded as a prank.
Anyone with common sense should know that Sony wants PS2 titles on PSN.....I mean look at how they are re-doing God of War 1 & 2...Thats being ported with upgraded graphics and addition of trophies...
Thing is though I wouldn't think they would want ALL PS2 Titles on PSN, at least they wouldn't be able to put ALL of them up there, I would imagine that they would port them on a game by game basis....the BIG titles...the ones that are part of a series of a game thats about to come out(i.e.: The Twisted Metal series, Shadow of The Collosus, ICO, etc...) Time will tell tho...time will tell
I dunno Chris, I think your second point is more valid than the first. I think Sony is going to see how much the GoW remakes sell before making any decisions. If it sells like crazy, then I think we should all be prepared to see more high-def remakes of the big titles (at least 1st party ones). Besides, I think Sony recognizes that the PS2 is relatively strong considering how old the platform is. I'm sure they don't want to cannibalize sales.
oh I'm sure they are waiting to see how it sells....fact is tho... I have no doubt in my MIND that it will sell well...I am one of those crazy people that own it on PS2 and will buy it again just because I LOVE God of War....other people will buy it because they missed it the first time around....I'm guessing it will at least do 1 million sold before God of War 3 comes out in March...
I've never played any of the GoW games...But I'm def going to get them.
Never played GoW?.. then you my friend have never really played a great AA game ;-) I am clearly more of an Xbox fan, but I own both systems and honestly dont think I have ever played a better action adventure game - hands down. I just sold my fat ps3 so I could upgrade to a slim (mainly for the blu-ray upgrades i.e. hd codec to my receiver, super quite ect) but I lost my BC. I only really missed GoW so I cant wait for the collectors edition. I would buy it even if there were no HD upgrades, the games are just that good. Oh, and I clearly have Chains for my PSP ;-) I hope you enjoy the series!!!!
Putting old titles on the PSN wouldn't cost a dime if they got a software emulator up and running. A software emulator would pave the way for basically every hit title on the PS2 to be put up on the PSN. The God of War BR bundle is a different beast though. They actually went back and ported the PS2 games over with a higher resolution.
If they can get a PS2 emulator running on the PS3, I wouldn't be surprised to see a huge catalog of games on the PSN. Each sale would be pure profit, so it wouldn't make sense to limit the scope of the titles that were available. Obviously Activision, EA, and others would need to sign off on the games going up, but there is really no reason for them not to.
Personally, I hope the God of War BR bundle does well, because I'd like to see more classics improved upon instead of just emulated at the old resolution.
So according to that, pricing/bundling should have been discussed by now. Hopefully we'll see how much it'll cost soon, I would like to get it if cheap enough.
I can't see it costing more than $50 for 2 Wandy Globes....and hopefully a camera bundle w/ 2 wandy globes wont be anymore than $70
one thing is certain...it DAMN sure better come with like 10 free mini-games...
You are obviously unfamiliar with Sony's pricing models. It will be $99 per wandy-globe set sans camera and $129 for set with (after price cut).
This is just a trick by Sony to fool Microsoft into thinking they're releasing a motion controller in March - just like the premise to that crappy movie Duplicity. Did I spoil it for you? Consider it my gift to you that I saved you 2 hours of your life.
Oh nice, more excited about PS2 games on PSN though :)
haha, its been pulled already
If Sony were ever planning to venture into the console cloud, and were to emulate past hardware via software, having pre-jigged your entire Playstation catalogue across the years would certainly be a novel angle to tout. It's encouraging to see this being pushed for. PS3 and beyond.
backwards compatibility is always a plus. That is the reason why people moved to the PS2. Just imagine along ith the already many PS1 titles on the PSN, to have the entire library of THOUSANDS of games from all three gens combined into a single place for download. All the classics and forgotten games that has been laid to rest through the test of time can now have a chance to live again. Well maybe not all but you get my point. the Playstation store would boom IMO
PS2 BC emulation would hands down bring the PS3 to the front lines when it comes to people who are still on the fence. This would bring the entire library of Playstation to once again be available to play. A luxury that was reserved for early adopters of the $600 systems. I know that PS2 emulation along with a price drop of $100 and a different physical look, playsation wil do well this upcoming year.
I swear to Jeebus, if they finally bring PS2 software emulation to my 80gb and don't let me use my already existing ps2 discs, I'm gonna introduce it to a sledge hammer. Seriously I'm not paying for games I already own, fuck you Sony.
Then do not buy the games you already have. It would not make sense buying a music CD just to download it off the internets? Same concept. only buy the games you dont already have that you've always wanted or broke for whatever reason.
"It would not make sense buying a music CD just to download it off the internets? Same concept."
Wish i could rip my games as i can rip my musics... Then you would be right...
Last line:
"SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat".
O rly?
What would require a director to accompany it? New hardware versions AGAIN?
I remember buying a PSP - I think it's in a drawer somewhere... I want a PS3P....
The document has been pulled already. Does someone have a mirror of it somewhere?
Page 1: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e0o4cy&s=4
Page 2: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2q15p9l&s=4
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Thank you. Much appreciated.
spring starts in march...why is it separated out? Late spring for all but Japan?
O like that SCEA is open to having Sony characters in Sonic Racing - but NOT Ratchet and Clank. They must be confident that all sonic games must suck.
yeah march for japan. all hail project natal
Didn't anyone else notice? If Michael Foster works for Sony then I seriously doubt he was evaluating the 360 or PC versions of Mass Effect, but rather a new title. New as in Mass Effect on the PS3.
After reading that juicy tidbit about the "wanting to sell all PS2 titles on PSN" I can see why Sony dropped the PS2 chips from the PS3 - PS2 disks would not work, but the system would still likely be able to run the titles...for a modest download price...$$$$. Thanks Sony!
Looks like they are thinking of DreamCast games on ps3 too. Gimme Shenmue 1 and 2 and then make 3.
Hmm... What's that about Alpha Protocol being barely RPG?
"There's also discussion of PlayStation 2 emulation on the PS3 with a note that 'SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc).'"
Sounds a little too good to be true. Because that would be pretty amazing. I mean, we've been waiting for that kind of thing ever since Sony started selling PSone titles on PSN. I seriously doubt this is true.
"* Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game). "
This is what caught my eye. Basically bringing import games through the PSN when these games would never come out in the US/Europe before now? Sign me up!
"Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU"
Maybe I'm the only one who read it this way, but this leads me to believe not all ps3 skus support the motion controller. Or in other words, there will be obsolete skus (those without MC support) and those with it.
And if it were a firmware or pseye difference, there wouldn't be any need for new ps3 skus.