Video: Intel's Light Peak running an HD display while transferring files... on a hackintosh
By Nilay Patel 
posted Sep 24th 2009 2:36PM
posted Sep 24th 2009 2:36PM
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No big deal just funny :p
Yeah, just amusing. I doubt Apple cares. I LOL'd, is what I'm saying here.
And that Nilay is why the comment system needs an overhaul. I know you guy don't have anything to do with the site but tell the website designers and maintainers to do something please.
Yep,
it was just sort of funny.
I doubt Apple cares.
I LOL'd, is what I'm saying here.
Yep.
It was just sort of funny.
I doubt Apple cares.
I LOL'd,
is what I'm saying here.
We get it Nilay you LOL'd. lmao
yah, seeing that Intel and Apple are all butt-buddy now I'm sure they couldn't care less, but good observation!
Intel should send me over that rig :)
Isn't it just a disassembled mac pro?
Yep.
It was just sort of...
...funny.
I doubt Apple cares.
I LOL'd.
That's what I'm saying here.
Yup, kinda funny.
I personally doubt Apple cares, though.
What I'm trying to say here is that I LOL'd
Yep,
it was just sort of funny.
I doubt Apple cares.
I LOL'd, is what I'm saying here.
Well, I guess the EndUserLicenseAgreement doesn't apply to (not-EndUser) Intel.
Intel make Apples processors, ergo, intel can put OSX on whatever the hell system they like.
Um, bullshit. They are indeed an End User of the system. Did they write Mac OS X? I didn't think so. They're users. Doesn't matter if they happen to supply one of many chips inside it.
Meanwhile, I agree with the consensus that there's nothing that interesting here - just smirk-worthy is all. :)
@Jushua,
End user != developers, suppliers, vendor
End user == retail customers
If you seriously think that Intel does not have express agreements with Apple to test OS/X on new platforms then you need to have your head examined. Whether or not they have permission to show said platform in public in another question entirely.
Besides, for all we know the hardware inside the box they were using might be a perfectly official mac motherboard.
I'm with glenn s, it's probably a dev mobo that'll eventually end up in Cupertino so all Intel needs to do is slap an Apple sticker on the box and they're legit.
Absolutely right. I'm sure Intel not only has permission, but that Apple is overjoyed that they're using OSX to test out their latest technology.
"Wolfticket @ Sep 24th 2009 2:45PM
Intel make Apples processors, ergo, intel can put OSX on whatever the hell system they like."
That's one of the dumbest comments I have ever seen on Engadget which is really saying something.
*bows*
why assume that was a hackintosh? i dont get it
Oh boy, let the war begin........................
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Light Peak enabled Hackintosh... Intel-ligence left outside
Wow, kinda ghetto Intel. Wonder if Apple will do anything about it.
Actually its kinda epic that somebody went thru everything to do this (installing osx isnt exactly simple on a vanilla pc)
It's pretty easy. Insert boot disc. Swap for retail DVD, install. Boot off boot disc. Install bootloader. Possibly install some kexts or EFI strings. Done.
I wouldn't be surprised if they used Apple parts. They do make their processors, after all.
They also make a good deal of the chipset as well depending on the model, including wireless, audio, southbridge, and video in older models. Intel is also largely responsible for EFI, a staple of Intel-based Mac systems.
Maybe Apple will be first who adopt it in it's electronics - like Wifi n and etc.
They're using wifi-n-draft for years. It's just a firmware upgrade issue now.
Yeah im guessing Intel has all sorts of development boxes running all sorts of operating systems. I wouldnt call that a hackintosh by any stretch of the imagination
i just drill on the SSD RAID there
I think it just shows that intel wouldn't be able to pull all that stuf off running windows.
apparently you didn't see the videos a couple days ago.
I doubt its a "hackintosh" as intel provides a lot of the hardware that goes into making the mac-compatible motherboards inside Mac Pros and other products. They get a special exception here.
'apple sues intel for violation of EULA and switch to AMD'
Apple couldn't switch to AMD, it'd make their computers cheaper.
Who knows, it could be an actual prototype that both Apple and intel are working on.
Turns out, you're more right about your intuition
Or perhaps its a build up to an Apple Announcement.
Kinda funny.
I'd make no mistake tho, they are definitely working on this technology together, it's no coincidence that they are showing off this tech on OSX.
No Intel are not working with Apple on optical interconnects, Intel works with Intel they are the worlds biggest chip maker by a large margin, what would Apple have to do with optical interconnects ? they make consumer electronics !
You're right, Apple has never embraced or promoted a new and emerging interconnect technology.
Dunno what I was thinking.
Has it occurred to anyone that maybe intel had permission to use Mac OS X?
Haha, that's what I was thinking. Couldn't this just be a heavily modified MacPro? Or even a prototype MacPro? If anyone has one I'm sure they would.
For that matter I'm pretty sure intel has all the official Apple TPM chips seeing as how they make the things, so how is this a hackintosh?
Apple and Intel are working jointly on this. It's one of Apple's latest inventions, and Intel is working with them to bring it to fruition.
See this article: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/09/apple-inspiration-behind-light-peak-optical-connection-standard.ars
Or could it be a version of the Enlightenment UI on linux?
You wouldn't want to trust your presentation to windows, that's suicide.
"So you'll notice that this scanner... woah. Uh..."
"That must be why we're not shipping Windows 98 yet."
wow...slow news day huh?
It's only a hackintosh if OS X is running on non Apple approved HW...seeing as Intel makes the most important component for Apple...this should be a non issue....the article should read "Intel uses OS X to show case super awesome Light Peak tech instead of Windows"...yea i went there...
There is also sub for that.
How do u know its hackintosh?? It's next gen Mac!
That's cool... I wonder if it can handle running flash on OS X?
very rude...
I think it's safe to say that the machine doesn't exist that can make the OS X version of Flash run decently. Or if it does, Adobe has it locked deep in an underground vault.
Somewhere in the asteroid belt. With shark-mounted laser turrets.
Or better yet: shark-mounted laser Tourette's. PEW PEW GODDAMN PEW FUCK.
What was I saying again?
@Shunnabunich - dude, i for real lol'd. that made my day. thanks.
@shunnabunnich - Many hours later.... I had to show the wife your comment. She didn't get it. I'm still laughing my f'n ass off. This is my favorite engadget response ever.
Could have been a phototype Mac Pro. Your are assuming that Intel wasn't given the permission by Apple to test out new processor on OSX. But remember that Intel is Apple's biggest partner, the odd of Apple not giving Intel that permission is very slim.
I hate your video player. Trying to get rid of the ad it went wonky.
Apple has always focused on A/V, prob next gen tech you'll see in a Mac Pro.
Calling a demo a "hack" is retarded, because all tech demos are hacks by definition.
Umh Apple distributes copies of x86 Pc Bios systems to developers.
Apple works with Intel on tons of stuff. Apple probably had their software engineers working on it along with Intel. This is a TUAW-level story,which is to say, it's one that should have never been posted.
Officially speaking, only developers are allowed to run OSX on non-Apple hardware. So there's no problem for intel or really any other hardware/software developers for OSX to run it on a normal PC. They just have to have the proper developer license (which has a subscription fee).
It's a Mac Mini, of course
Headed towards 2 pages of comments and nobody has talked about Light Peak. lol
Comments about the technology are below the TUAW article that refers to this one :)
It looks like the data is being transferred from a Mac onto the thing that you claim to be a hackintosh, which could well be running any OS.
It love having just one standard connection and this looks like that perfect solution. The hackintosh could mean Apple and Intel are codeveloping it and will most likely replace Firewire.
I call balls !
Intel already develop USB which includes an optical standard for USB 3.
Light Peak could replace all interconnects: USB, FireWire, HDMI, DisplayPort, eSATA. Cables can be as long as 100 m. The best part might be that it supports multiple protocols. So instead of a dozen different technologies at the back of your computer, you might have 6 or 8 Light Peak ports (and maybe Ethernet+USB for legacy) and it won't matter which ones you use. Hopefully they can get economies of scale going quickly.
when did it get cool to play copycat online in web comments on tech sites, sigh, another internet meme that needs to die.
Big file. BIG BIG file.
Have you guys ever considered that it may just be a monitor and a mac pro or something under the table? you can use whatever screen you want. Just cuz it's not a apple cinema display doesn't mean it's a hackintosh.
What's the difference between Light Peak and USB 3? Universal inter-connect, hotswap, very very fast, optical... (Honest question, not trying to troll)
Most important is that USB 3 is here. Light Peak is a ways off. Light Peak is faster (10 Gb/s vs. 3.6/4.8 Gb/s), can carry data over longer distances (100 m vs. 5 m), and can carry USB plus other protocols. Intel is working on its first controller/module package for 2010 delivery. We might see it in PC chipsets shortly thereafter - high-end ones to start.
I'm pretty sure apple doesn't care that its a hackintosh since Intel builds all there cpus anyways.. lol
I LOL'd.
Thats what i'm sayin here...
Sorry, I couldn't resist that one :)
Next-up:
A version that is wireless, using high-intensity lasers to allow you to transfer files at incredible speeds!
i'm late to the party, but that hackintosh looks like a gutted mac pro tower. the blue mobo kindda gives it away.
But can it run Crysis?
No, it can't
Great! now we have the solution for run OS X without legacy problems with Apple. Just get a job at Intel.
...OR...
Considering that Intel hardware does power current Apple setups, who's to say that this won't be running on future Apple computers, basically Intel engineering and writing drivers for OS X...
Come on now, was this really that big of a deal?
What if it wasn't a hackintosh. What if apple actually made the computer for intel's demonstration purposes only.
Yep...
What Im saying here is that I LOL'd
I have doubt that Apple cares
but it was still just sort of funny
I definitely think it was a Hackintosh: look at the golden drive and the Leopard desktop pattern. The system hasn't compensated for using a non-standard SATA controller, and hence the drive registers as external. On Snow Leopard this could really be an external drive, but on Leopard the boot drive is on the desktop by default.
MacOS is quite good at video presentation, which is likely why it was used for the demo.
What makes this actually LOL-worthy is that Intel probably used Netkas' work on fakesmc, dsmos, and/or the Chameleon/EFI bootloader, since Apple would have to build a custom kernel otherwise. If that were the case, the system would likely be running Snow Leopard.
OMG, can Apple please let people install their OS on standard PC hardware without hacking? Can Steve Jobs write in his will that Apple will release all its source code when he dies? Please? (well, one can wish for the impossible...)
Intel definitely is using an Apple chassis, looking at the bottom of the case there are 3 columns of drive slots typically found in mac pro cases.
Its just a Mac Pro out of it's case. Nothing amazing.
Exactly, and you can even see the RAM riser boards
Ouais
C'est juste marrant...
Je pense qu'Apple s'en fout
j'ai "LOL"é, et c'est ce que je dis ici...
Sip...
Lo que estoy diciendo aqui es que yo LOL'eé
No creo que a Apple le importe.
pero como sea fue algo gracioso
:P
who's to say that isn't a frankensteined mac? With mac hardware? If that's the case, then there would be no violation of EULA.
You are wrong. No Mac Pro.
Look deeper in details.
The left PC ist equiped as usual with a mb like Intel DQ43AP. Besides the PCIex-extenderbord with "LightPeak"-router.
The right PC consists of a developer- or modified standard-mobo, sitting verticaly.
This board lacks the ususal raiser-card as well the heatpipes seen in Mac Pro. See a usual heatpipe as used in customer-PC.
The board on the desk is a PCIex-extenderbord, housing the LightPeak-router and the VGA-card.
Look deeper!
Look at "Switch to Mac"-Blog athttp://pc-checkpoint.de/pccblog/index.html
Cheers.