HTC Leo's TouchFLO 3D build demoed on video
By Nilay Patel 
posted Sep 25th 2009 9:13PM
posted Sep 25th 2009 9:13PM
[Via MobileTechWorld; thanks Mistyk]
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Installed it on a Touch Pro2.
VERY nice though.
You installed it on your TP2? How's it running?
This looks really nice I'm still deciding on a phone, the TP2 is in the list. Is yours T-Mo?
how dare a resistive screen be so sensitive hey engadget?!
@ originator. it's Capacitive.
No it's not. He installed it on a Touch Pro 2, it's resistive.
TouchFLO 3D is gimmick, IMO.
where did you get it??
Good thing people don't care about your opinion.
its avaliable on xda-developers.com
Does the landscape TF3D work with the keyboard out?
i have it on my touch pro 2 as well. just go to the start menu and go back to home... jump starts the animated weather every time.
This is really nice. Still deciding whether to start with Andriod or WinMo.
Deciding? Are you kidding? Windows Mobile has died and the choice should be obvious!
@Cy Young
Not true, I'm having the same dilemma. WinMo will have offerings that compete very closely with Android in 1Q10. It's especially difficult if you're a current WinMo user (like me) but often dream about owning a Hero. The fact that both platforms use similar HTC skins doesn't make it any easier.
Easy decision. The stylus oriented WinMo is out of fashion.
Maemo has also got to be considered... Although you wont have the variety of handsets the platform looks incredible.
Until android has a decent (ie TomTom or iGo level) turn by turn application, I can't justify the jump to android. The latest 6.5 leaks do make the decision to stay WiMo (Kaiser at the moment) much easier :)
The stylus os like winmo has been around for decades. So go with winmo if you're getting
this phone for your grandpa.
I say you should go with WinMo because you have a tried and tested platform that is stable and flexible. If you go with Android you also have less hardware choices and even less carrier support right now. Also if you are a business user, even though certain Android phones have exchange server support, all WinMo phones have great exchange support.
I just received a text.
Did it say "dumb ass"?
Pretty harsh words there Monkey with glasses, are you also an A-hole in real life?
Wow... that actually looks really amazing.
some guys can help me choose one between SE X1 and htc diomond2 ? or wait for the GSM palm pre?
LOL...
Touch Diamond 2 has a better camera and is thinner, SEX1 has a physical keyboard and is fatter.
ive the se x1. it has a real keyboard and better cam(idunno what the heck "pedro" is talking about.. probably just looking at spec sheets cause if he actually tried them he'd know that the td2 cam cant even come close to the x1 cam with autoflash and crap load different options) AND ive also got LEO running on it. XDA-DEv chefs have been using this ROM for months know...
I've got to say, this guy has a really good presence and vocabulary. Not used to that in a youtube video review......
I agree - easy to follow, no annoying background music and and no blurrycam. A rare thing on Youtube.
It's almost like he had the intention to share information with other intelligent people effectively and interestingly.
Yeah, that happens with WinMo users a lot...
Needs more Android.
you had a girl dp and you still got downvoted.
where in the world could someone possibly go THAT wrong.
All very nice - doesn't do me much good until they sell the LEO on US CDMA carriers.
iPhone received a text message in the background.
This looks very good. Can you imagine how sexy this will be with a Tegra or Snapdragon chipset? I mean... look at how well it's running on that Qualcomm chipset? Very nice... A nice, *integrated* Facebook piece, similar to the twitter one, and I'd be sold.
Looks nice. Would rather have something like that running android, but am not adamantly opposed to using winmo, My last phone had it and it wasn't so bad.
My main concern with this phone would be battery life. Has awfully small mAh rating for the screen and processor its running.
I agree. It looks great but all that animation, screen size and power makes me very dubious of battery consumption. Having to plug in during the day is not really an option and changing batteries every 3 or 4 hours is not something that should be seen as standard practice.
All in all very nice, but battery consumption is a huge concern.
I have been running this rom for just over a day now and I dont think it will need more than one charge a day in all seriousness. For standard to heavy use that is not bad at all.
The HTC HD2 has a Snapdragon processor, this processor has specs that put it up as one of the best mobile processors for battery consumption, on the level of Tegra or maybe even better.
Mmmmm tasty! Come on Sprint! I may need to try and hold off on the TP2. Oh the pain...
We need people to figure out a way to install this on the CDMA Touch Pro2's. I don't want to have to go with AT&T or T-Mobile to be able to flash ROMs.
Be patient, people are working on an unlocker for that already. It takes time.
The device runs this build very smooth. Makes WinMo great again. To bad its only HTC phones.
Think about SenseUI on this..
TouchFLO looks great though.
very f'n nice!
I thought the accelerometer was kinda lagging, but then realized he placed the phone on a flat surface. I kinda wanted to see some typing and how smooth the keyboard is. Overall the UI is smooth as silk, i'm willing to buy this if it comes to a US carrier.
The tp2 comes with a hard keyboard, no need for pathetic onscreen annoyance.
The touch Flo is fine, but I would have liked to see the guy use the rest of the phone, did they finally kill the stylus? I noticed to exit out of the app was still a tiny X at the top right of the screen. I hate the windows start button and menu. Its not finger friendly at all
WinMo 6.5 start menu is very finger friendly. Try giving it a run before simply bad mouthing it.
As ljm notes, 6.5 does not require a stylus.
I need to say that engadget posting this positive video of a WinMo device restores my faith in those lads...
"...The cats at PocketNow managed to grab an early ROM and install it on a Touch Diamond2 ..."
Well, it's TouchPro 2 not Touch Diamond 2.
http://snurl.com/s4u5g
Wow, Microsoft doesn't seem to be sending anyone any S&D letters.
C&D, my bad
Heh microsoft is finally getting some decent hype from people about a mobile product of theirs, of course they would not throw any S&D letters out!
The TouchFLO 3D keeps getting better and better. It is amazing how a technology company like HTC manages to create a very nice UI that would put many companies to shame. No, I don't just mean MS. Apple too. Go HTC!
This is indeed better than the iPhone's interface, that's for sure.
can the tp2 be updated to this?
the video is of the tp2 running the updated version of touchflo and not the touch diamond 2 as stated in the article.
This can be updated but but officially. Go check out the rhodium (tp2) section of xda-developers.com (at your own risk).
The software looks very nice with tons of eye candy. Unfortunately, it seems to slow even the 1 GHz processor down, especially in that "Places" view, or the photo viewing.
it was on a tp2 not the leo
Some horrible comments. Read the info about the video! This is the Leo TF3D2 running on a Touch Pro2(which is NOT 1ghz). Everything you see here is happening on a resistive screen.
Sorry, didn't realize that. It should run like butter on the HTC Leo, then.
It could be the fact that its a beta firmware?
Uh people.... that's on a Touch Diamond 2, with a, I believe a Qualcomm 528Mhz processor. That isn't the Leo, that's a Touch Diamond 2, which a resistive screen. >.>
Touch Pro 2. Engadget article is wrong. As some previous posters have pointed out.
TD2 looks different; the phone call/hangup buttons aren't nearly flush with the bottom of the device like TP2. The TP2 is also much more rounded on the corners.
I was wondering about that it looked like a TP2, but I didn't know what the TD2 looked like so I didn't balk.. I have a loaner TP2 with an older build of 6.5 running on it. It's not bad at all really, but THIS .. this is quite a few steps up. Sigh... nothing on the horizon with a hardware keyboard looks really good except maybe the CLIQ.. but that's still hamstrung non-rooted by Android's inability to run apps off anything but the paltry built-in memory.
Oh.. and resistive screens aren't THAT bad... has anyone actually used a TP2 that's complaining about it..
This ROM is really making me want to just grab T-Mo's TP2.
This is T-Mobile's version of the TP2. I love this phone!
I'm going to look for this ROM build to install on mine. That looks really nice!
chefs all around the world right now are working to port this over to the original touch pro/att fuze...cant wait!
Every time I look at an HTC article I regret having an iPhone.
Can't wait for the Leo, bye bye iPhone!
+1
My thoughts exactly
Xmas is Sep 24?
Ha! I was wondering that too!
Looks wonderful already on the TD2, and it will run like a dream on the Leo.
Now if only Sprint manages to grab the Leo, I'd be all over it.
Wow this really impressed me. That video made this look really nice. I am not very familiar with 6.5 so I kind of wish he went into the start menu and showed other apps so I can see. But my question is this, can it multi task? And if it can how does it go about doing it? Is it like the android solution how you press and hold the home button or is it similar to cards on the Palm Pre or can it simply not multitask like the iPhone?
WinMo was multi-tasking since day one back in 2001 or so :)
WinMo has a task manager that you can access by touching the top-right corner of the screen next to the signal strength, battery icon, etc. indicators, it's that icon that looks like 3 horizontal lines with a drop down menu arrow.
Alternatively on WinMo, you can assign any of the hard keys to be your taskmanager, so let's say you don't need your "Back" button to perform the back function, then just assign it as the TaskManager, so you can always easily flip back and forth between open apps by hitting that one button and then selecting amongst a list of running apps.
It's that easy.
Looks great. Now, can anyone tell me what the advantage of choosing Windows Mobile is over other OS's that have capacitive screens? I'm asking as a lot of the programs I'd like to run are stylus dependent. If I want capacitive, why not just choose another OS?
Looks like he's using the EnergyROM rather than an official update. I had that on my X1 yesterday but found the SMS didn't work. The Twitter tab does work rather nicely though.
It's official: from now on Xmas is only between 6 and 7pm! Check the calendar in the photo
As others have said, great review...clear, concise, easy to follow :) *two thumbs up*
I've been living in my own little iPhone bubble for a short while now, so it's great to peek out from time to time and see other phones branching out with good looking UI and keeping Apple on their toes. Because for me, my iPhone is getting a little *yawn* lol
Keep it up guys :D
thank God for XDA!
WinMo just got it's groove back!
Notice the new Start button anyone? It looks like Windows Mobile 7.
Looks beautiful, nothing short of it, but don't get too flashy on me, WM
TouchFLO looks amazing... If battery power/energy weren't a problem. Is TouchFLO billed as a business interface or a casual interface? I mean, from what I remember, WinMO has been mainly a business type mobile OS. I would like to see some battery benchmarks with all that stuff going on (Animated Wallpaper, widgets, etc). I can't imagine that it'd be very terrific.
Wow, that resistive screen looks... very nice and responsive. I'm shocked, I thought resistive screens ate babies. TP2 will probably be my next phone if its as easy to use as it looks in this vid. When can I get this in the US, Oct 4?
TP2 is available now on T-Mo (my personal carrier), Sprint, and Verizon.
AT&T is on it's way. I am using a loaner AT&T Fortress (TP2). It's a good phone, it keeps the popular chrome and black styling over T-Mo's admittedly classy mocha variation. I'm not going to flash this ROM into it, I'm sure we'll have to give it back at some point. I think it's hitting the street for AT&T on WinMo 6.5's official launch day. If you like AT&T hold out not much longer and they'll take your cash for sure.
I love the phone, I would never have admittedly given it much chance over android if I hadn't actually used it for a bit. The mobile OS/device space is definitely confusing right now if you would rather have something other than an iPhone.
Since there has been no mention of this device I thought I should at least utter it's name...iPhone. Fanboys get an orgasm yet?
Is it just me or did the "Footprints" icon closely resemble the Gnome icon (http://www.gnome.org)?
Thanks a nice lookin' iPhone app- wow, Twitter on another phone- great. Hey, didn't this come out in 2007?
The singificant difference is that twitter apps can run in the background in WinMo meaning you don't have to open up the app to check for new tweets. Instead you are receive new tweets like you do text messages, which makes twitter a much better communication tool. especially if you are on a carrier which does not support SMS tweet notifications.
Put this on my Touch HD, it works quite well. As someone said above, the twitter app is excellent, very well integrated. Lots of other small but impressive things too.
It's nice in a way that the phone itself is essentially becoming a blank
I'd love it if Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile would release ROM updates for TP2 to 6.5 with these TouchFlo 3D enhancements. I have a TP2 on VZW and I'm rather impressed with the TF3d interface thus far.
A few things that annoy me are the way the calendar is integrated (you can't see future appointments at a glance beyond 24 hours ahead). But it looks like that may have been addressed with Agenda View (@2:34 in the video), which is KEY for me. I used the WinMo calendar heavily for organization.
The Twitter and Facebook functionality are indeed pretty awesome. It makes the TP2 a nice blend of Business Phone and Personal Phone. And all of this should fly on Snapdragon for you folks waiting for the HTC Leo. That 1Ghz processor makes me a little jealous, lol.