The ATI onslaught of 40nm DirectX 11 parts continues today with two even cheaper variants coming from its
Evergreen family of chips. Based on the Juniper core, the HD 5770 and 5750 represent ATI's mainstream value proposition, with compute performance of more than 1 TFLOPS and pricing between $109 and $159. There's a significant dropoff in specs from the
world-conquering HD 5870 and
similarly potent HD 5850, but reviewers found the latest cards were still up to the task, with the 5770's performance said to be "just shy" of the very recent top dog for ATI, the HD 4890. With low power consumption, competitive pricing and added features like Eyefinity and 7.1 HD audio, the new cards might not push performance boundaries, but they also leave you with little reason to look elsewhere for your next GPU purchase. Hit up the reviews below for more detailed impressions.
Read - Hot Hardware review
Read - PC Perspective review
Read - HardOCP review
Read - TweakTown review
Read - Techgage review
Read - AnandTech review
Read - Hexus review
posted Oct 13th 2009 4:10AM
Amazing, i wonder how their FirePro range using this chipset will perform!
Those Graphics card are not nor do have a chipset. A chipset is a motherboard component.
Macbeth are not nor do have good grammar.
The HD5750 looks to be the perfect graphics card for a passive cooled Mini ITX system. Not too expensive, small form factor, fast, and low power consumption especially when idle.
Great move ATI.
o_O
"Small" form factor? We're still looking at a double-wide PCI Express card, and with a huge honking fan on it I doubt it'll be cool either. Quite possibly the LAST thing you would want inside a passively cooled system.
with small I meant the length of the card.
And if I talk about a passive cooled system then I would remove the stock cooler and use a heatpipe system connected to an aluminium case which acts as a heatsink, the same I would do with the CPU. And because it has a low power consumption, especially in idle mode it's easily possible to run it without a fan. Under load, well, maybe one large silent, slow spinning fan is necessary to keep the case and thus the heatsink cooler. But even then, it won't be audible.
"Form factor"?
Frank, I agreed with you until you came up with this heatsink idea. mATX systems should be simple, cheap and quiet, which most gpu fans are. Air is fine
Engadget forgot to mention the smaller card size.
Heck i hate my 9600gt in standard ATX.. i have to remove the video card whenever i want to remove or install a new hdd.
Time for a new case.
i hear they've already made some hybrid models which can be used for general computing as well. you can use them in place of a cpu right? are there drawbacks?
yes, ati.
yeah, they still require a CPU to work.
Is ATI still a healthy company? I might have read some misinforming news somewhere that they're one of the top 10 companies in trouble of bankruptcy within the next year or two.
AMD owns ATI.
ATI is kind of spanking NVIDIA right now. Hope nvidia pulls it out.
5770 is a much better choice, course, will be new year before I even consider my next card. About time for an upgrade too
wasnt suppose to be a reply....
Right, I forgot it was AMD in the news. I think it said something like AMD chipset mfg is consistently losing more of their market share to companies like Intel and Nvidia. I guess if the news is true and sh!t eventually hits the fan, AMD will get bought out since selling ATI would spell AMD's doom nonetheless.
Not sure why you're getting low ranked, but you're right, AMD is not a healthy company. It's losing massive amounts of money and I'm not sure why, but it might have to do with the ATI division spending the money to be able to "spank" Nvidia in price/performance.
Even if ATI is not a particularly healthy company/branch of AMD, these cards could very possibly change things.
I for one will be getting a 5750 for my cool and quiet HTPC. Decent performance, small form factor, cool, low power consumption (including idle for once) ftw.
ATI has pretty much been spanking Nvidia since the 4800 series (although they didn't outperform the GTX200's, they were significantly lower priced and pretty much forced Nvidia to drop prices on their flagship cards by over $100 just a month after launch) on the desktop. That said, ATI doesn't have near the presence that Nvidia does in the notebook and mobile markets. Also, ATI is owned by AMD, so even if ATI is kicking ass and taking names the company as a whole is still hurting.
The problem isn't ATI, it's AMD overall.
Intel primarily is eating up market share left and right. Intel IS the netbook market and AMD still doesn't have a CPU on shelves to compete with Intel in the regular notebook segment. Desktops - it's a lot more even with the Phenom II's. Though how long that will last with Intel's new procs coming down the pipeline is up for debate.
Hey, Yeah I follow amd quite a bit they are not a healthy company right now but they are on the right track. Basically they are a niche company and they lost the niche market or high performance.
Long before intel and nvidia saw the future for an integrated cpu/gpu machine AMD did. Unfortunately they over paid by BILLIONS for ATI to make this happen. The resulting cash flow shortage and contracting global economic situation really put the screws down on them. This made products suffer and they lost the speed and price crown.
It's a few years later now, the global economic crisis stopped getting worse, credit is available again, there have been several MAJOR write downs over the ATI deal and the chip foundries have been sold off. The products have rebounded in the cpu and gpu market and they have managed to stay out of the unprofitable netbook market. Losses are down sales are up. They should slowly be back on the way up.
That's my vision at least. I don't think they will go out of business. I also don't think they are going to rocket up the stock market in the next three years.
I hope you really don't think that specialty video cards are going to pull them out of a slump. They'll need some other kind of product where the market share isn't so small.
Why must tech sites insist on reviewing mid-range cards on high end systems? It gives such a skewed perspective on the final results.
It means the card's performance isn't restricted by a slow system so it's easier to measure the difference between cards.
No it doesn't.
@ACER- Oh, well... that completely changed my mind. What a compelling argument.
Well, that makes sense. Thanks.
More sense than you make
what has shoes got to do with video cards? go advertise on a shoe forum
Be random much?
EPICNESS! Tempted to sell my 4770 and ASUS 780G motherboard and upgrade to a DFI Lan Party Jr mATX and 2 X 5770's :D (have a mATX case)
Damn you ATI, these new cards are so tempting!
Two 5770's? Why not just get one 5870? Saves you from potential driver issues, provides more consistent performance, keeps power consumption the same, uses less space. Unless your PC case can't accommodate the length of a 5870, of course.
@aznofazns
he has an mATX case, which is why he cant fit a 5870
Wow, how did I miss the mATX part of his post?
Well the 5850 seems to be the sweet spot currently.
Did you even read the reviews before putting this story up? If you did you'd see that the 5770 is in no way "just shy" of the 4890. In fact, it lags quite a way behind the the GTX 260/4870 in most games, barring the odd exception (e.g. Far Cry 2).
I should probably add that it's also more expensive than those faster cards at current prices.
You're right, I easily noticed the same thing. HD5770 is far from the HD4890, and often the HD4870, in most of the benchmarks. Just take a quick glance on a few charts and you should be able to tell.
It's too bad the ATI drivers suck on Linux, leaving Nvidia as the only way to get (proper) accelerated graphics. It's too bad Nvidia will not support kernel-mode setting or any other recent development (Gallium3D, for instance). Supporting these these would further fragment the driver between Linux and Windows, creating extra work, so I understand. Still a bummer, though.
It's kind of a monopoly, only a little more boring.
what'd you do with proper drivers a gaming video card?
last time i checked, not many games ran on linux without WINE. and if you use wine for most of your stuff, you should probably buy Windows.
That's not necessarily true if gaming is a secondary purpose. My main use is software/firmware development, and I run Linux for its security, reliability, myriad of tools and applications, and for the exact control over what runs on my machine. There's also merit to the ideological point that your software platform must be open for it to really be yours (I'm trying Windows 7 Beta on an HTPC for its ClearQAM support, and all the layers of DRM and (anti-)privacy agreements and so on is ridiculous). But I still like the occasional game of TF2, and WINE gets me there just fine.
A graphics card under Linux isn't only useful for gaming, you know. Celestia, Blender, all those things need graphics cards (not to mention graphics drivers) that don't suck.
And what is that about "needing" wine for "most of my stuff"? Many lovely games have been ported to Linux, some of them featuring fairly complex graphics. You don't "need" wine to do anything, plus the notion that using wine is analogous to dual-booting Windows is egregious. I don't want to wait 2 minutes everytime I need to run some application. Wine is fine, it's free and works pretty great these days, even with complex games (Oblivion, HL2, World of Warcraft, all of these are rated "platinum" for being reliable under wine).
I'm still not sure where I or anyone else mentioned wine though. Were you set on "auto-troll"?
lol be patient, he'll show up.
The whati whaten?
That was a reply to milkywayer. Damn you confusing buttons!
We haven't had a good flame war in a while about graphics card companies........ NVIDIA ROX!@
BS! Hercules RULES.
wher do i get the newest intel c2duo drivers??
WTF, get out of town!
Voodoo for life mutherPucker!
(LOL!)
Change your shirt! The mushrooms must be ready by now!
how do these cards handle audio with HDMI?
Should just pass through presuming you have latest drivers installed.
The Radeon 5xxx cards add bitstream support for TrueHD and DTS-MA. The ATi 4xxx and 5xxx both support 7.1 LPCM.
But for HTPC purposes, the best bet it to wait for a Radeon 56xx version in 2010 that's passively cooled. That double sized cooler on the 5750 doesn't look silent at all.
I've had nothing but trouble with my HDMI audio passthrough on my 4850. Never shows up as supporting more than stereo channels, unless its dolby digital, which gets passed through just fine.
I've been waiting for it seems like years for a software driver to encode EVERYTHING into AC3 on the fly. Including video games. So far, FFDshow and AC3 filter only work with specific audio formats, and not audio produced by games like Guild Wars or any non Dolby Digital source.
Thes cards erected me, ATI had really move forward.
I can only find the 5750 for $129 on newegg. Where did engadget get the $109 from?
Newegg price gouging... aka selling new parts above MSRP. Just look at what they do to those Intel SSDs.
Zipzoomfly's pricing is even higher... $149 and $184 for XFX 5750/5770 parts, respectively
I was checking price trends for the 5800 cards in Europe recently. Pretty much all cards gained 20€ in price and availability is scarce at best.
It seems demand pushes the prices up. Or ATI doesn't ship sufficient number of cards. Or combination of both.
It's the HD 5750 512MB card that's $109... the 1GB version is indeed $129.
Damn. I just bought a G-Card. :-\
drool..
I feel your pain, man. He/she should show up soon. Hang in there.
the most important question: can run crysis?????? =P
Makes my 4850 look like a Rage Pro... Thank god I just bought a 5870!