This is the equivalent of a car company saying that you have to use an OEM air filter (btw they can't). This really is a crappy move. Thank you MS for reminding me why I don't buy your crappy: phones with windows in it, mp3 player that only took you a few years to copy and bring up to date, gaming system (I can live without sending back a hunk of electronics every 5 months because of RROD), Vista, etc.
What's next, you have to buy MS certified cables too?
??? Are you ignorant? No, it's not like an air filter. It's like replacing the fuel injectors, or the ignition system, or the transmission and then complaining when your car doesn't perform as it should and demanding the dealer to warranty it.
We have no "right" to use anything we want on ANY console. Never have. They're not like PC's and aren't licensed they way PCs are. Get over it or just don't buy one. They are meant to be "closed" systems. Tha'ts why they're cheaper and more stable.
Seriously. The issue is not ALL non-Microsoft accessories, it's ones that Microsoft hasn't "certified". And I hope that includes all those hacked hard drives. You're knowingly violating your license agreement. Not to mention, people who use those only do so to violate copy-right laws and most are also software pirates. So, cry away, honest people don't care.
We have every right to do JUST about anything to a console. No one signed a license agreement before purchase. It's the software that cuckolds us. In this case an update and we can choose not to use it which down the line may not allow us to play certain games, but it's still a choice up to us. Companies can't establish a police state in your living room with their wares...
Sure, you CAN modify your console however you like. And thankfully, Microsoft will BAN your ass from XBOX Live!
If you want to mod your system, build yourself a PC. I'm willing to sacrifice a little self control to avoid hackers in my games. Anything MS can do to stop people from using rapid fire controllers, modifying game saves / game data, and glitching graphic rendering to their advantage gets my approval, no matter the cost.
That's the best part about consoles: Everyone has the same hardware. The only advantage you can have in a game is your own skill and good QoS on your router.
Jeff, Engadget was linking to iLounge, which seems to live apple products but HATE the company. They're always going for the worst possible spin on anything the company does. That article is wrong and completely filled with paranoia. Apple "required" their own headphones because they used one pin on the minijack (a 4 connector one at that), and singles had to be encoded to share that one pin. Some Apple dork called it an "Auth chip" and iLounge went off on that. Anyone can make headphones that work with the new Shuffle without paying Apple anything. You can do it with parts from radioshack, even.
Now, if you wanted to talk about Apple's auth chip in the video cables for the ipods/iphones, that would back up your point. I hate that Apple did that, requiring more expensive cables for something that shouldn't cost more than $10.
If you want to rip on Apple, fine, but get your facts straight.
brrip, I'm on a macbook right now. Apple has never restricted what hardware I can use on this laptop. They've been a pain in the ass about the iphone/ipod, but they don't pull that crap with the actual computers. Get your facts straight.
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This is the equivalent of a car company saying that you have to use an OEM air filter (btw they can't). This really is a crappy move. Thank you MS for reminding me why I don't buy your crappy: phones with windows in it, mp3 player that only took you a few years to copy and bring up to date, gaming system (I can live without sending back a hunk of electronics every 5 months because of RROD), Vista, etc.
What's next, you have to buy MS certified cables too?
Apple beat them to it: http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/15/third-party-ipod-shuffle-headphones-will-require-apple-licensed/
That was a good comment until you went naming off Microsoft products ;-)
But yes, I agree somebody should get on them for this.
??? Are you ignorant? No, it's not like an air filter. It's like replacing the fuel injectors, or the ignition system, or the transmission and then complaining when your car doesn't perform as it should and demanding the dealer to warranty it.
We have no "right" to use anything we want on ANY console. Never have. They're not like PC's and aren't licensed they way PCs are. Get over it or just don't buy one. They are meant to be "closed" systems. Tha'ts why they're cheaper and more stable.
Seriously. The issue is not ALL non-Microsoft accessories, it's ones that Microsoft hasn't "certified". And I hope that includes all those hacked hard drives. You're knowingly violating your license agreement. Not to mention, people who use those only do so to violate copy-right laws and most are also software pirates. So, cry away, honest people don't care.
We have every right to do JUST about anything to a console. No one signed a license agreement before purchase. It's the software that cuckolds us. In this case an update and we can choose not to use it which down the line may not allow us to play certain games, but it's still a choice up to us. Companies can't establish a police state in your living room with their wares...
Sure, you CAN modify your console however you like. And thankfully, Microsoft will BAN your ass from XBOX Live!
If you want to mod your system, build yourself a PC. I'm willing to sacrifice a little self control to avoid hackers in my games. Anything MS can do to stop people from using rapid fire controllers, modifying game saves / game data, and glitching graphic rendering to their advantage gets my approval, no matter the cost.
That's the best part about consoles: Everyone has the same hardware. The only advantage you can have in a game is your own skill and good QoS on your router.
@massmass
i really hope you don't own a macbook. cos that's exactly what apple does with their OS.
Jeff, Engadget was linking to iLounge, which seems to live apple products but HATE the company. They're always going for the worst possible spin on anything the company does. That article is wrong and completely filled with paranoia. Apple "required" their own headphones because they used one pin on the minijack (a 4 connector one at that), and singles had to be encoded to share that one pin. Some Apple dork called it an "Auth chip" and iLounge went off on that. Anyone can make headphones that work with the new Shuffle without paying Apple anything. You can do it with parts from radioshack, even.
Now, if you wanted to talk about Apple's auth chip in the video cables for the ipods/iphones, that would back up your point. I hate that Apple did that, requiring more expensive cables for something that shouldn't cost more than $10.
If you want to rip on Apple, fine, but get your facts straight.
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brrip, I'm on a macbook right now. Apple has never restricted what hardware I can use on this laptop. They've been a pain in the ass about the iphone/ipod, but they don't pull that crap with the actual computers. Get your facts straight.