Still no confirmation on any
all-you-can-eat data plans, but
Boy Genius Report has some convincing screens that seem to reveal some other precepts of T-Mobile's enigmatic (and purportedly company-saving)
Project Dark. Two new plans have emerged, Even More and Even More Plus. The former is the traditional two-year contract, along with options to do data only and get a subsidized phone. Even More Plus doesn't require a contract, going month-to-monthly instead, and subsequently the phone is full price. However, what's gonna be interesting to see is the FlexPay option, which allows you to pay for a device in monthly installments instead of upfront, a plan we've seen before in markets like Germany and Japan. In the example above, a $400 G1 on the non-contractual Even More Plus plan is divvied out to an initial $170 payment and 19 subsequent installments of $12.10, or $33.33 over three months after the related upfront cost. It's no game-changer on its own, but it's certainly an intriguing prospect that's gonna make some (initially) cash-strapped individuals very happy to be able to walk out with a decent
Android device.
[Thanks to everyone who sent this in!]
posted Oct 18th 2009 4:59PM
I'm so not excited.
Where's that leak of HD2 + that $50/m for all-you-can-eat? D:
I saw that too on BGR
Holy...
That would be awesome! I might get one then!
If someone could help me that'd be great. In firefox engadget and all its articles are very messed up, but on internet explorer theyre fine.
Here's what I mean.
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af230/RickyROFL/Engadget_1255901302855.jpg
IE looks normal.
Could anyone help?
I use Firefox and I have no problems even though I run with Ad-block, No-Script and all that jazz. Sorry buddy, IE is sooooo last century.
I use Firefox too, but I admit it can bugs that are just really annoying at times. I suggest you try Chrome or Opera, both are excellent alternatives. As for IE... nokthx.
I know IE isn't good, Ive always used firefox, but I like engadget and I'd rather not have to open up a seperate browser just to get here. (like I'm doing now). Thanks for replying though.
Use the IE Tab extension, google it, its VERY useful.
And yes, I had that problem too, so I refreshed the page using the refresh button and it went away.
I'm using Firefox never had that problem. I think Vista is your problem.
have u tried uninstalling and doing a fresh firefox install ?
For Existing Family Plan Customers,
T-Mobile is already doing all you can eat for $52 (before tax and fees)
Unlimited Loyalty (voice call) is $50 / first line, $40 second line
T-zones unlimited Internet is $5.99 per line
Family Plan Unlimited messages is $19.99 / whole account, that's $10 per line
So it's $61/ line if you have 2 lines.
If you can get 5 people on the same account,
Five Unlimited Loyalty (voice call) is $210 total, that's $42 per line
T-zones unlimited Internet is $5.99 per line
Family Plan Unlimited messages is $19.99 / whole account, that's $4 per line
So $42 + $5.99 + $4 = $52, you get unlimited voice, internet, and messages.
@rickyrofl: that happens to me every now and then. I usually do a refresh and it loads the css.
＠Raymond:
That's nice, but I prefer going for a Individual Plan. And you're counting the loyalty plan (currently on Sprint), so that wouldn't work for me for at least the next two years.
But just for the hell of it, comparing the same thing on Sprint's Everything Data w/ Any Mobile, Anytime family plan with 5 people on the line:
$129.99 - Everything Data w/ AnyMobile, Anytime + $59.97 ($19.99 per line) = $189.96/month for 5 lines.
That would make $38 per line, for basically unlimited everything, no need to hold for 2yrs for it either.
So Sprint still wins imo.
@ Mega-Japan
That $129 Sprint plan is great if the users call Mobile phones most of the time
Otherwise the 5 lines would be sharing just 1500 anytime minutes for calling landline numbers, (300 minutes / line)
@Raymond:
You're right, but I believe those 300 minutes/line for landlines is enough. At least I certainly don't know many people around me who is always is calling to landlines, specially when families nowadays are cutting off their landline phones for individual cellphones for each family member.
I'm trying to check out that Sprint family plan you're talking about, but Sprint's online ordering interface is absolutely abysmal. First, clicking on plans then selecting the family share plan only allows you to shop Nextel phones, you have to click phones to get to the Sprint phones. And if you get to the Nextel phones, you can't get to the Sprint phones without clearing your cookies. Supposedly it includes BIS, but I can't add a Blackberry unless I add another specific Blackberry data plan.
They do have a chat I guess, but I'm just browsing.
Although I get a better store when I enter in another ZIP code. Try 49509 to see what I'm talking about. I think it has something to do with MetroPCS?
Still Sprint's fault for presenting customers with a POS website.
This is different to the UK system of "We charge you nothing or very little, but pay for the phone out of each monthly bill" how?
Who said it was different?
Well, assuming this is 'Project Dark', T-Mobile did.
Yeah, or in Australia, the carriers do that too, not saying it's the only option but they do it
not just Germany and Japan.
Yeah they've been doing this for almost 10 years in Australia.
Is it just me or does the whole mobile telecom biz in the US suck compared with the rest of the world?
it's not just you... and it's not just the mobile telecom industry - it's the US telecom industry in general. land-lines, cable, dsl... virtually every way to communicate in the US is controlled by the top corporate giants (time warner, comcast, charter, at&t, verizon...)
i think the biggest problem with the cell carrier industry here is the fact that the towers are not owned/operated by the government as they are in other countries - so the smaller cell companies that cant afford to build/buy many of their own towers have crappy coverage and don't compete well. or, they have to buy tower/network usage from the big guys - which is very expensive.
most of my family lives in Canada, and they say it's the same raw deal for telecommunications there.
i really hope this is a step toward the end of forced contractual ties to carriers.
Definitely genius ! This whole mobile world is getting pretty interesting and us, geeks, are running out of popcorn. The Hero Sprint needed. My map is bigger than yours. iDoesn't. Now, T-Mobile with their new formula for wireless payment.
They may not have the best coverage, but $40 for voice, $50 for voice/text, $60 for voice/text/data, I think are pretty good deals.
Secondly, T-Mobile will be introducing a big contender, King N900 of Finland. ***trumpet***
iPhone vs Droid vs N900 vs Hero
Tickets anyone?
I agree with a couple of things there, but $60/months still won't go giving T-Mobile a gazillion of costumers.
They need to roll out that coverage, at least get it to Sprint's level, and if they can work it out with AT&T to roam on their network, that'd help. I get free roaming with Sprint on Verizon, so I always have coverage.
"iPhone vs Droid vs N900 vs Hero", I don't know much about Droid and N900, but iPhone and Hero are already low-end in my book (I like Android w/ Sense UI though). HTC Dragon and HTC HD2 is where is at. If Dragon is fully confirmed anyways.
*grabs popcorn and sits next to you*
I am sure Apple is cooking something for 2010 summer now. If they don't this heavy rain of smartphones will crush them into pulp. (Anyone Apple juice?) That is why I list he iPhone as it evolves as competition forces it to... (well not really lol it took what 3 years for MMS?)
I forgot another contender Sprint has. How could I!! The Samsung Moment sporting 800 MHz and Full Qwerty Keyboard. I think it is a nice step up from the Hero and being able to port Sense UI **awesomeness**
Oh by the way, Rhapsody and Napster are coming to Android before the end of the year and also the Flash 10.1 beta.
Also don't forget T-Mobile rolling the 21 mbps data connection. I am sure that The German daddy won't let his US baby die out... That I guarantee or my name is not Oliver Henrie Louis des Roches Valencia Schnitzel !
forgot to ask you want some nachos? the cheese is lactose free so you don't have any data leak and it is well backed-up. :D
+1 for Apple juice! XD
The Samsung Moment does sound nice, but we also know the average customer could care less about processing speed since they don't even know what it is. I'm sure a wave of phones like that are bound to turn into something positive though.
I'm all hyped for this Flash 10.1 business too.
Agree on HSPA+ of 21mbps, I actually find it sad that they will try and push it nationwide than Sprint has taken to roll out their phone WiMax (which I'm still waiting for). Then again, T-Mo has less towers to work on, they need to get much bigger than they're now, that's for sure. And AT&T needs to get knocked down >_>.
I wonder if this will beat iPhone sales zero to million sold in 72 hour record.
@tikiteko
The iphone is cooking their new iPhone 3GS-F. The F stands for Flash in the camera and will charge $$$ again! yay!
To Mega-Japan... I'm with T-Mobile and when I leave their coverage area to visit my hometown, I roam on AT&T's network. My phone even says AT&T on the home screen when it does that. So basically, they've already beat you to it.
@Micah Robinson:
Yes, seems like it. Thanks for the info.
I was under the impression you can already payment plan your phone, if you ask for it *Shrug*
I think so too.
Yep, my T-Mobile store has little cards all around saying "Take this phone home today for $32.45" or whatever.
Here in Bahrain, both the providers here offer lots of high-end smartphones for monthly installments of about $50. And these phones include the Nokia N97, Samsung Omnia, Blackberry Storm, Blackberry Bold, and lots lots more.
I'm honestly surprised none of the networks did that before (but then again you say they have?)
I just bought a MyTouch and they spread the cost out over 4 months for me, with the first payment starting in January. I know some one who got a G1 when they came out last year and they did the same thing then too... this is nothing new, but I think what is new is doing it over a longer period of time.
I always wondered why you could never do this. I mean is it bad for the bottom line or something? You have a way for people to buy more expansive phones i.e give you more money, what the hell is wrong with that.
You *can* do this! It's just the same as buying a 'subsidized' phone. They just move the cost of the phone into your monthly payments.
@tim, except that when you're done paying for your phone, you stop paying, as opposed to keep paying forever even if you don't upgrade your phone again.
Someone please add some kind of family plan data because paying separately is way too expensive.
buying phones in installments? What happens when somebody is 14 months into a 24 month contract, the phone stops working, out of warranty and still making payments.
If you are in contract, you don't buy the phone in installment. It is subsidized. And, warranty extension through the manufacture. It is like buying any other article....
Most of EU countries this kind of system been like forever... You pay for phone 1$ and then monthly according of phone's real price
I can see how t-mobile considers this a "game-changer"
The rest of the world gets crazy phones like touch HD, and all other nokia high end phones, whereas here in the states, we have to live with only carrier subsidized phones. I guess t-mo is trying to work the european system in the states, which is how they can not manage to offer the powerful HD2 and N900...
I can see a wave of amazing phones coming here finally...
typical American lifestyle-
BUY WHAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD!
Hmmmm, hmmmm, no. Buy NOW what you can afford in the FUTURE.Geez, with that attitude you won't be able to even give away your username.....
Yah because everyone on the planet buys their car in total with cash. screw you asshole. There is NOTHING wrong with credit as long as you don't go overboard with it. Its people who are buying these $500,000 homes and can't afford anything over a 130,000 where the problem lies.
Actually, this isn't American at all - it's the preferred method most phone companies in the UK use, like O2. They'll just tack on an extra £12 to £20 on your monthly plan. This is why even lowly uni students have Nokia N95s.
I'll buy the damned phone just give me a monthly payment that is some what reasonable!
Wow all we need now is the n900 and maybe an android phone that has tegra or snapdragon not that tired ass 528 mhz processor