Canon's EOS 1D Mark V DSLR defying death, launching tomorrow?
By Darren Murph 
posted Oct 19th 2009 4:41PM
posted Oct 19th 2009 4:41PM
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You mean Mark IV.
4 is over 3, not 5.
seriously??
You need to read the report carefully before commenting it.
and considering that the Japanese do everything they possibly can to avoid the number four (it's pronounced the same as the word for death, if you must know),
BTW: the same thing happens in Chinese
@ Boudu
nice. I know you can write, shouldn't that mean you can read?
Actually 4 is an unlucky number in Japan so they skip it. Thats why its the mark 5.
Reading comprehension FAIL!
the Japanese do everything they possibly can to avoid the number four (it's pronounced the same as the word for death, if you must know), the EOS 1D Mark V is the only plausible candidate
5 is over 3, too...
Engadget's got it wrong. "4" as read in "Mark IV" would be read Mark-"yon' (or be called "four" in Engrish). It won't be called Mark "shi" (as in death). Its grammatically incorrect to use "shi" in this context.
Also, Japanese don't have the strong negative attachment to the number 4 as the Chinese do, where 4 can also also be associated with death. The 1D is a global brand targeted at professionals, it won't skip the number "4" based on Japanese superstitious, especially being it would non-nonsensical to the rest of the world. If Canon was adverse to the number 4 it would have not named their newest chip the Digic IV.
...IV("shi") could have also made it the Mark "Shi"t, so V is all good. As someone who works p/t time for the website of a pro-camera place (and on Long Island), I wouldn't be surprised if Boudu's question comes up many, many times..even after countless explanations.
Looks like its officially "IV". It not skipping to "V".
http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=3108&productID=349&articleTypeID=125
Straight from Canon's mouth:
"The EOS-1D Mark IV is the latest advancement of Canon's flagship DSLR series. Combining all the speed and durability of previous generations with a completely revamped Autofocus system, Dual DiG!C IV processing power, and full EOS HD Video capabilities, the EOS-1D Mark IV sets new standards for professionals who demand the most of their equipment."
Based off the video on Canon's site (link above)
Official specs are:
1D Mark 4
>>16.1 megapixel APS-H sensor (1.3x crop)
>>native ISO is 100-12,800 (expandable to 102,400)
>> Dual Digic-4
>> 45-point AF (39 cross-type)
vids here:
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/
Sure, the number 4 can be pronounced "yon" instead of "shi"
But it's actually common practice in modern Japanese to use English pronunciation of numbers in product names.
In the case of "Mark IV", they will call it "maaku foh", just as the current 1Ds/1D mIII are called "maaku surii". And when I bought my 5DmII, the salesperson reviewed my purchase as "maaku tsuu".
The same applies to the class name. 1D(s) is called "wan dii (essu)" instead of "ichi"; 5D is "faibu dii" instead of "go dii", and so on. The same applies for Nikon models, and most other major product names 10 and below.
Of course, if Canon makes it up to Mark XI and beyond, they may switch back to Japanese. "Eleven" and "twelve" are too complicated to approximate in Japanese.
Mark IV!!
Jk. I read the article. Nice camera, bro!
This is Canons speed model and you forget to mention a couple of the biggest points in the rumors, 12fps (compared to "just" 11 in the D3s) and 1080p video at 60fps.
Double speed full HD sounds pretty killer
It would have to be targeted at the longer, faster shooting applications, correct? Unless I am mistaken you can't get APS-H specific lenses, so you're always going to be shooting a little longer than is possible with an APS-C or full frame sensor (though i suppose you could just crop out the vignette from an APS-C lens, if it worked).
CanonRumors.com reported the following specs:
- 16mp APS-H
- 12fps
- 1080p @ 24/25, 30 & 60 fps
- Ergonomic Changes
- 19 Selectable AF points
APS-H?? Seriously? So the Canon 1D MKV won't be full frame?
Why would it be? That's what the 1Ds series is...
The _1Ds_ is Canon's top of the line full frame camera, the 1D is the top of the line for cropped format. Its about 1k cheaper than the 1Ds and faster, which means more suitable for sports photographers und journalists as opposed to the more expensive 1Ds which is targeted at studio photography or photographers that need the higher resolution and improved noice performance.
My guess is the 1Ds MV won't be far if they really are releasing the 1DMV tomorrow.
Alright, I thought since the 5D is full frame, the 1D would be as well full frame. I didn't know that it has been APS-H the entire time.
The 1D has always been APS-H. The smaller sensor allows for faster burst speeds. Expect a full frame 1Ds MkV to follow after not too long
Whether you flavor is Canon or Nikon (or the others), these are beautiful times to be living in! 16MP (full frame or not), 1080P@60, >25K ISO?! Thought I do mourn films demise; it's only by a little. Now all I have to buy is the 10/12 bit deep-color monitor to appreciate the images these puppies shoot.
Keep in mind though...16mp with the ISOs Canon's claiming will be ridiculously noisy unless Canon found some amazing new algorithm for noise removal...
It WILL be the mark IV.
Canon uses the number 4. Ever hear of Digic 4? How about 40D? maybe 400D?
And what about the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM? There are two fours there...
Well, I'm Japanese (born and raised) and I think Ben is right. When they use 4 in product names, they use English pronunciation (although it would sound like "whore" instead of "four"). If they do skip IV, they'll do it another reason (marketing, internal reason, etc.).
I just realized they did skip 4 for PowerShot G series....
I don't think they would name a camera itself anything "4". 4 alone - NOT 14, 40, 400, 4,000, or whatever other random "4" number you want to come up with - is where the conflict is. That'd be like us Americans saying "oh, 13 is an unlucky number, so 130 must be unlucky, too". Doesn't quite make sense, does it?
As for Digic - it's just an internal component; I don't think they give that the same weight as a $5,000 body.
@manabu
It's not 100%, but especially in digital cameras you'll be hard pressed to find a company that didn't skip "4" in the model series, though in some cases they had one and made it oversees only. The only Lumix camera to have a "4" I can recall is the FZ-4, which was never sold in Japan. There was a Ricoh R4, that's the single modern example I can think of, but then Ricoh never cares about what people think anyway... they do their own thing. Of course Nikon had an F4 film body back in the day.
If marketing get's their hands on it, it will jump to "consumer friendly" numbers like 1, 3, 5 and 7. If the engineers get their say, it will be logical 1,2,3,4,5,6....
Hey, Canon has no D2, D4, D6, or D8? Guess who runs the show over there...
Of course "IV" isn't the same as "4", roman numerals are ok...
Ha! Ben and I were right. I didn't think a high tech companies like Canon would do such a thing. They could skip any number of various reasons.
Too bad that Nikon's next big DSLR will be so much better!
Just sayin' ...
Correction :Too bad that Nikon's next big DSLR will be so much *expensive*!
OH DEAR GOD! Why the hell do I salivate over each new camera from Canon?
I just love their pro-line, or semi-pro-line cameras! :P
This place is a scam. However, if you get your shopping advice from spam you get what you deserve.
Breaking News:
Specification have now been confirmed here in Tokyo, the camera will be named the 1D Mark IV and the specs are as follows:
- 21.1 Megapixels
- Full Frame with 1.3 Crop Mode
- 8 FPS in Full Frame Mode
- 12 FPS in 1.3 Crop Mode
- Dual Digic IV Processors
- Native ISO 25,600
- Boost Mode ISO upto 102,400
- 45 AF Points - 39 Cross
- 63 Zone Metering
- 1080p @ 24-60 fps
- 720p @ 120 fps
- S-RAW Video
- HDMI HD video output
- 3" Fold & Tilt LCD Screen
- Self Cleaning Sensor
The actual body ergonomics haven't changed a great deal, with the biggest difference being the new Fold & Tilt LCD and the appearance of large hot keys beside the screen, that look slightly like the ones on Phase One Digital Backs.
There will also be three accessories at launch:
1. VDSLR Mount System
2. XLR Pro Audio Module
3. 1TB Flash Recording Module
The XLR Pro Audio Module and 1TB Flash Recording Modules are made to connect into the VDSLR Mount System to convert the camera into a fully fledged Video device, changing the form factor into one that Filmmakers are more familiar with.
Will report back when I get further information.
Wow this sounds like the real deal!
That makes more sense, 16mp seemed too low given the specs of the 7D, even if they did increase fps in burst mode. I'm curious if it has autofocusing during video, that's my one qualm with the 5D.
I am at the launch now in KL Hilton, Malaysia...
It is 1D Mark IV, and it is such a REAL beauty... ;-p
Mark IV.... freaL guys?
This is news:)