T-Mobile's Project Dark: $99.99 unlimited on Even More, $79.99 on Even More Plus?
The details of T-Mobile's mysterious Project Dark definitely seem to be congealing around retooled handset billing and a set of new plans, and it looks like TmoNews might have the first word here on the all-important subject of plan pricing. Even More Plus, which would be contract-free and offer new handset FlexPay over four installments, is apparently tracking for a $79.99 all-you-can-eat package, $69.99 with 1,000 voice minutes, or $49.99 with unlimited voice and no data. Even More meanwhile, which basically amounts to new contract plan branding with traditional hardware subsidies, will come in at $99.99 for unlimited everything (mirroring Sprint's pricing) or $59.99 for unlimited voice alone. It seems strange that the contract pricing is higher than the prepaid, especially since Even More Plus apparently won't offer any hardware subsidies whatsoever, but we're sure we're going to find out how this all shakes out soon enough. Follow the break for another shot of the pricing grids.




















"Most Affordable Unlimited Rate Plans"
meh, I don't think so T-Mobile!
Dude, check any current mobile carrier and at the end T-Mobile has most affordable pricing.
When I had basic only I paid $39 that is 700 minutes 5 faves free nights and weekends. With additional line now and data plan I pay $92 That is two phones 10 faves 1000 minutes and unlimited data.
Now compare that to ATT, Verizon or even US Cellular....
Um ...Yeah Good luck!
Or you could get the same thing with more than 10 Myfavs due to Sprint having free calls to any mobile number (Any Mobile, Any Time), night and weekends starting at 7 and a far better data network. Oh and of course unlimited texting and GPS are included.
@cocoviper
exactly what I meant, I got 5 lines on the unlimited everything data 1500min + 25% work discount and that brings it to about $40 a month each line!!!! you can't beat that!
navigation on each phone, sprint tv, unlimited txt, email, web, unl calls to any cellphone
Still not quite as cheap as WalMart. I think you seriously have to consider them in the mix now too, MVNO or not.
@Samurai Jack
Who wants a crappy flip phone, that was made 10 years ago?
Something I love about T-Mobile is how they ALWAYS love to compare pricing with Verizon and AT&T but NEVER with Sprint, because they know Sprint has even cheaper pricing than what they have to offer at the moment. You can see this when walking into a T-Mobile store and looking at the price comparison chart.
I have nothing against T-Mobile, but I honestly was expecting something more "OMG!" from them.
Cheap means nothing if the service provider doesn't provide product support.
Ask Sidekick users, they will tell you. Like they said, you get you paid for!
@Jocelyn.... people without a lot of money. The way things are going that might include *you* soon enough...
yeah this is lame. The best kept secret is Sprint's $60 EPRP plan (google it). You get the following:
unlimited calls to any mobile (any network)
unlimited texts
unlimited data
unlimited pix messaging
n&w start at 7pm
blackberry bis service (in case you use a bb)
450 anytime minutes
umm...what's not to love about that. Plus they have much better coverage and faster 3g data than t-mobile and at&t
I'm a T-Mo customer - overall, I'm happy enough. This new promotion was entirely overblown by all the speculative press. This is not THAT fantastic... in fact, looking at the family plan that has unlimited everything for $179.99 as an example... Most unlimited data plans (BB & Android) are $25 (without SMS), and unlimited family SMS is about $20. So, that's $70 for two data plans and unlimited SMS... that means the remaining $109.99 is what you're paying for the unlimited talk for two lines... that's not that impressive... I have a "customer loyalty offer" for being with T-Mo for a few years that offers that same thing for $89.99 (instead of $109.99.)
I'm really disappointed by the reality of this offer. However, I think the biggest news here is that FINALLY T-Mo is letting you out of the contract if you don't buy a subsidized phone from them. Not everyone knows this, but up until this, T-Mo made you sign a 2-year deal for every new line, whether you bought a phone from them or not!! I already had a new BB flip and they STILL made me sign a 2-year deal to set-up the new line. So, at least they're finally catching up on that front... no one should have to sign a contract if you don't subsidize their handset... that's just dumb.
Meh is right. One of the lines I'm paying for has 600 minutes w/Unlimited Nights & Weekends (39.99) + unlimited data + text ($34.99) on T-mobile is cheaper than the $80 project dark plan for 500 minutes + text + web
I pay less than this right now, and I'm on t-mobile. What gives?
What a TURN OFF.... Really all those rumors really had me worked up, expecting something really "game-changing". This is just he same pig with a different color of lipstick and waterproof mascara.
I work for T_mobile and its true begining this saturaday the plans will roll out...suck on that Sprint
I have Sprint and I love their service but seriously, why is everyone raining on T-Mobile's parade? They're lowering prices and offering new/more options. Whats more to ask for? At least they're trying. Gotta give them some credit. More than I can say for AT&T. All they do is leverage the iPhone and think they can charge as if they have the service and coverage of Verizon. They could at least take all the money they are getting from their iPhone users and better their coverage!
They give a cheaper monthly plan in exchange for dropping the subsidy. About damn time!
This is good news! Since T-Mo is a GSM carrier, you can pick up an unlocked handset, and actually benefit from lower pricing.
Yes, this pricing is damn good. I can buy the 29.99 monthly plan with 500 minutes
and add unlimited web for smartphone for $25, so i get 500 minutes(more than enough if i have unlimited web)+ unlimited web for $55 per month.
I've been with them for a while and nice to know I can actually get their plan with out anymore contract! Just wish their 3G is not on 1700MHz HSPA/UMTS only though...
It is hard to find T-MOible compatible phones unlocked. :( I called the Customer Support, they transferred me to Tech Support, and the N97, the Nokia 5800, none worked with T-Mobile bands for 3G.
F voice...just give me unlimited data cheap!
seriously...these prices are unimpressive. All the hype for this??? Totally lame.
Bobo - to be fair, T-mobile hasn't really hyped this. The internet took care of that for them.
Sprint has an unlimited data plan with no voice, it includes texting too, $30 a month. You can get the pre and other smartphones, but of course it's on contract.
http://sprintrelaystore.com/data_only_plan.htm
Seriously. They've pretty much lost every deaf and hard-of-hearing customer they had from the Sidekick era with this, unless there's a data-only option they haven't revealed.
Err...wtf? From ethcool's link: "The incoming call block may be removed by contacting our video customer service, with the exception of the Palm Pre and HTC Hero."
They have VIDEO CUSTOMER SERVICE now? *mind is blown*
Even More Plus is not pre-paid. It's post-paid. Just like what happens if you ride out a 2-year contract and enter a non-contract state. It still requires a credit check. It's just post paid. That's all. If you can't get past the credit check, you can do FlexPay with a lower credit limit. FlexPay is pre-paid with a little more flexibility.
Flex pay doesn't require a credit check.
That's what he said...
they will require a credit check on flexpay if:
1. you want to do the 2 year contract
or
2. you want to break the price of the phone into installments on the bill
option of course, though. you can refuse credit check and just use your own device and go no contract
The rumors were for first $50 and then $60 unlimited. I would have switched. $80? Whatever.Another episode from the failuredome.
That's what this is, 500 minutes + unlimited text + unlimited data for $60. Not bad. Bring it on.
Ditto. I got a lot of friends excited by LJing the $50 news.. Now I'm prob going to get my house TPed on Halloween. Thanks T Mobile. :P :)
@john doe: Me, too.
I knew that was too good to be true. They have to rip us off. :(
Those prices suck. What a bunch of garbage.
This pricing doesn't seem like much of a bargain with what's already offered. The already have the "Unlimited loyalty plan" for $50 a month unlimited voice. "Unlimited" data and text is another $35. That's what I pay, $85 a month for unlimited everything on my G1.
Ha, beat me to it.
But Loyalty plan was discontinued, so nobody can take advantage of that...
@iDavey: Really? That sucks. Glad I took advantage of it while it was still around.
@iDavey: You can still get the Loyalty plan if eligible, it's just not being advertised. I can still change to it online through my.tmobile, and probably if I asked over the phone.
Except that the Loyalty Plan has not been discontinued. It's still quite available upon request to a CSR. I should know since I did it 2 days ago.
Oh, well that's nice to know. I used to be eligible, but I left T-Mobile then just came back this year. So I'm all kinds of screwed. LOL.
But this will be nice for me to get...especially that Flexpay option.
G1?...I really feel sorry for you.
I'm guessing the Even More Plus is cheaper because they, in fact, do not get subsidiaries.
Since they have the monthy plan added onto their bill, that's why it could probably be lower.
Or since the monthly folks are tied into being with them...they just want to milk more money, who knows, lol.
This news makes me Even More indifferent.
LOL
Hmm darn, I was kinda hoping this would beat the pricing on the unlimited loyalty plan with a G1 data plan($75 for unlimited voice, unlimited data, and 400 text messages, or $85 for unlimited text messages as well) that I'm currently paying. Guess that's still exclusive pricing for long standing subscribers.
$60 for 500 min (who really uses voice anyway?) and unlimited text + data sounds like a good deal to me.