EVGA GeForce GTX 275 Co-opts a GTS 250 for PhysX duties
By Vladislav Savov 
posted Nov 3rd 2009 5:14AM
posted Nov 3rd 2009 5:14AM
P.S. - That's what the actual card will look like, we're not making it up.
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Doesn't seem that interesting, I rather hear GTX 380 coming soon.
well to me, this is one badass looking vinyl job. i'd buy one...if i had the extra mulah :(
I have a regular GTX 275, and an 8800 for PHYSX. But I usually don't leave the PHYSX card in there b/c of the extra heat. So, this is actually a pretty good idea, especially if PHYSX becomes popular.
a special Halloween edition of the GTX 275...
Nov 3rd 2009 at 5:14AM...
Anyone?
engadget is late... there was a launch party at EVGA HQ last friday... which was 10/30.
Whats that? Last gen's chip + last last gen's chip = awesome? I'm sorry but someone has their facts wrong.
errr....since when had Nvidia superseeded the 200 series....news to me....and hardware is my profession....the 300 series is not slated till a q4 2010 release...and as for ATI and direct X 11...yeah like developers have utilised it...while they are involving themselves in reduced instruction sets Nvidia involved themselves in Phys-x and CUDA...by the time they have superseeded it in a years time then we may see dx 11 titles...but developers will not plough money into DX 11 until the next gen of consoles...there may be the odd title but we will not see it become mainstream....so indeed someone has got there facts wrong...ie you
@Jaster: The Fermi/GT300 is still on schedule for a Q1 '10 release. http://tr.im/E0BB
Amen. And HDMI, ever heard of it Nvidia?
GTS 250 = respin of 9800GT/9800GTX/9800GTX+/9600GSO = respin of 8800GT.
Throw in a die shrink, some faster memory and you've got 1 card that crosses 3 'generations'.
Gotta say, nVIDIA milked that card for all it was worth. I guess it was a great chip (G92) to begin with and remains competitive, but it really is a last last gen card.
why so serious
Maybe they were going for some viral internet marketing, 2 gpus, 1 pcb?
On a more serious note, the option of having PhysX tacked onto a existing graphics card is certainly a nice option for those with a single PCIe 16x slot that want to also run a dedicated card/chip for PhysX instead of having the sole GPU do both. Probably should also be cheaper than to separate cards. On the higher end you can also run SLI + the dedicated PhysX GPU with only 2 slots. If they could get this and a GTX285 as well that would be a bit better for the high end.
@zane ... you should really read the articles you push before spouting them .. quote "Best Case"...thats if the silicone layer has good yields...the probability of that is very very low....the article explains we are not going to see any product in 2009....and Q1 is a possibility...judging by the material I have sat here for Nvidia product listings for the next year Q3/Q4 is mentioned...but no confirmed dates...I wasn't pointing out when the GT300 range would be available....I was pointing out thats its not available now...making the GT200 range the "Current" architecture and not last generation...
@Jaster. Hardware is your profession? Really? You must me talking about hammers and drywall if you think GPUs are made from silicone wafers.
seriously guys?
first @Crand: what kind of processor isn't made from silicone wafers? what did you think it was made of? fairy dust?
and @Crand: there a couple of big DX11 titles heading our way in '10, first there is the awesome looking Alien vs Predator, then from the people in codemasters we have Dirt 2 (which if the technology works well is supposed to be really awesome) and THE big title of the year (in graphics at least) is STALKER: call of prypat- which according to the company's history you just can't say it wouldn't look awesome; both previous games pushed the hardware to it's fucking limit both in DX9 era AND in DX10 era, I'm pretty sure they're gonna do it again w/ DX11 (have you seen their tesselation demos?).
now about the card, neat idea for people w/o the extra graphics slot (those who can't just jam a 9600 or 8800GT in there which would be much cheaper) but (hopefully) will be useless because physx is proprietary and works only for half of the gamers.
Wow a polarizing graphics card, if there ever was one. It sure looks cool but I'm not sure if I'd want to buy one.
I'm also seeing this image floating around in place of the awesome Joker-Asylum picture
http://www.tcmagazine.com/images/news/Hardware/EVGA/EVGA_GeForce_GTX_295_CO-OP_Edition_01.jpg
Nvidia's just trying to recover what little high-end market share they have while ATI's HD5800 lineup is out of stock...
you guys are idots. the reason is quite simple. the majority of computers have mobos that only have 1 or 2 pci-e ports for gpu cards. nvidia wants everyone to have 1. sli 2. physx. this allows everyone to have at least one of those. the gts 250 is the perfect card for physx. anything bigger is a waste of money.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/10/21/evga-and-nvidia-to-launch-a-new-dual-gpu-card-on-halloween.aspx
Saw this one comming back in October
It was also up on the 30th there too...
PCPer is a little late on this one
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/10/30/evga-launches-its-halloween-gtx-275-2b-gts-250-co-op-card.aspx
Nice idea but with such limited support of PhysX, I'm not sure it's worth it. I would much rather pay for a GTX285 which I am sure will cost less.
Pricing and usage (if you play PhysX games) would really make all the difference in this case.
physx isn't worth the cash atm. Until a coprocessor for physics calculations comes standard on GPU's its adoption will never become main stream.
This is just a ploy from EVGA to get rid of some of their overhead while they are waiting for Nvidia to take it's sweet time and put out another card that will kill ATI/AMD.
Right now, AMD has the advantage in all but the very top end, and i would rather be one step lower with much less power consumption anyway.
What are you talking about? The new DX11 HD5850/5870 ARE the top end. Until Fermi comes out, ATI clearly has the high-end market to itself.
It's the newest, but the GTX 295 still bests it in all tests and benchmarks. The only thing the new ATI cards is better at is power consumption. Do you really want to argue with me?
The 295 is a dual GPU card whereas the 5870 is single GPU and costs less. Also, it does not beat it in all of the benchmarks, it's about 50/50 at best.
If you're going to sit here and argue that the 295 is still king of the hill, you're just being delusional. I don't own either card nor am I loyal to one camp or the other. I'm just stating what everyone has already published and I implore you to disprove any of my above points.
And to seal the deal....
Cue the 5970
ECG makes dome terrible cards too, so it makes since for them to try new things to keep people interested somehow
Damn you iPhone, you can't type anything right can you?
*EVGA makes some terrible cards too, so it makes since for them to try new things to keep people interested somehow...
Hybrid SLI has been around for a long time...the only interesting thing is that a whole GTS 250 is bein dedicated entirely for PhysX.
wanna know how i got these scars?
let my physx processor model it for you.......
Nice!!!!!
This card is a MONSTER for games, plain and simple.
Macbook Pro esque graphics cards? Neat.
at first i thought that was a bad photoshop job. whyyy does my graphics card need a picture of the badly rendered joker on it
nvidia is done if they don't have a way to move faster on their new cards. rereleasing old technology... again... is not going to cut it. they still have to prove they have working silicon. so far all they've shown is simulators of fermi. they faked a video card at the previous show and got caught. and now they say they'll try to show something at CES. this is what happened to 3dfx. they fell behind a product cycle and never recovered. ati is not going to stand still waiting for nvidia. when the fermi comes out, i'm sure ati wil have a card for then too. targets keep moving
I just got the parts for a new system, when picking a gpu I thought about physx and nvidia, but then someone linked me to nvidia's site where they have the list of games that actually support it, it was pretty paltry. Most titles that support it aren't one's I've really heard of and none of them had me clamoring to play them(sorry if I mostly like the AAA titles). I went with a 4870 1gb which was a really good price.
is that a power button im seeing next to the dvi ports? is it to physically turn off the 2nd gpu? cuz when I had sli installed on my pc and all 4 gb's of ram in, then tried to install from a copy of vista, i would bluescreen..
I'll take a hybrid Radeon HD 5870/GeForce GTS 250 card!
PhysX is awful. Why would you sacrifice your artistic vision so nvidia can sell a few more graphics cards?
Oh right, money.
If I can run the GPU processing for SETI without slowing the normal video to a crawl, it would make sense.