NVIDIA confirms Intel chipsets won't support USB 3.0 until 2011
By Vlad Savov 
posted November 4th 2009 10:59AM
posted November 4th 2009 10:59AM
What was once an unverifiable rumor from an anonymous source has now, sadly, become a confirmed fact. Intel won't be integrating USB 3.0 support into its chipsets until at least 2011. Motherboard makers such as ASUS can still opt to add discrete 3.0 controllers at an extra cost, but Intel -- already accused of dragging its heels on the standard's development -- won't be. NVIDIA spokesman Brian Burke has expressed, in no uncertain terms, his company's disappointment with Intel, while also claiming that chipsets by NVIDIA are more feature-rich and just plain better than Intel's own efforts. We'll add this to our ever-growing collection of things NVIDIA doesn't like about Intel, but we also hope that the immature outburst doesn't obscure the real issue. NVIDIA is correct in noting that Intel needs competition in the chipset space, and the new interconnect's dependence on Intel's whims demonstrates the market-altering powers that reside in Santa Clara, CA. Unless another chipmaker gets serious about competing with Intel, we could face plenty more of these seemingly arbitrary delays in tech rollouts.
I'm sure Intel sits awake at night trying to work out how to get it's hands on Apple's money ! HELLO WORLDS BIGGEST CHIP MAKER !
Lightpeak is Intel's standard not Apple's
That's my thought exactly. Intel really can hamper a standard such as this from getting off the ground at a decent pace if they don't jump behind it.
I really don't care who wins, USB 3.0 or Light Peak. I just want the one that is ready to ASAP. Also does anyone know how rugged the Light Peak cable is? Will it be as bendable as USB copper cable?
@daytripper, it can be up to 100meters long and is thinner so says wikipedia. Actually doesn't sound bad, just imagine replacing HDMI/USB/Firewire/DisplayPort/etc... with one connector. Hopefully intel doesn't f' it up.
NY Times: Cuomo Files Antitrust Suit Against Intel
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/technology/companies/05chip.html?_r=1&emc=na
This is front page news for sure.
I'm not surprised. Intel is single handedly slowing the advancement of entry level notebook graphics. its been over 5 years with almost no improvements on intel's integrated graphics. its like they are not even trying! every notebook/netbook deserve a video card solution that is at least as fast as the nvidia 9400m. I'm not asking for a video card capable of playing intensive 3d games, i just want to be able to view HD and high quality flash videos! i just want to browse the web with no restrictions what so ever.
high quality flash won't use your graphics chip because of Adobe not Intel.
Why, hello, Mr. Flash 10.1. Welcome to the GPU party.
Actually, even now, it does use some DirectX when in Internet Explorer.
However, it can't access that when running in any other browser. Blame Netscape for using a secure plugin protocol back in the 90's, and everyone adopting it. Turns out, it's too secure for what Adobe wants to do for performance, and not secure enough to actually be secure.
Memo from Intel:
"...because we can."
See Matt's post a few up from here. They might get told "No, you can't" fairly soon about some of their BS.
LightPeak all the way please. Let's get moving and spend less time fiddling with our cables and more time being productivity.
How many man hours lost to waiting for yet another DVI-X to connector Y adapter? Etc.
After watching the video of Light Speak, it's clear why the decision was made.
http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/None/1813.htm
Regards,
I use fiber cables at work. They are great, high speed, long distance connections.
They are not good for anything consumer related, because all it takes to kill it is to bend it.
Think of every time you have ran over a usb cable with your chair, closed a drawer on it, or just tried to shove it behind your computer or in between your desk and the wall.
Almost all of these would result in having to purchase a new fiber cable.
Fiber is great, but unless they pack it in some super-overdone protective cable, it is simply too fragile to be just laying on a desk to get knocked around/crimped.
i mean of course they would do that but its for the right reason Light Peak is way better One I/O connection to rule them all, Light Peak is a dream come true just thinking about how nice it would be to have one cable for everything the inside of my PC would look great LOL.
PS: You cannot send power over light (except maybe with solar panels?). So every single one of your Light Peak devices will also need another cable connected for power.
@thain
Ever heard of bendable fiber? it's a non issue.
Also Don't jump to conclusions. Fiber can be bundled with copper for power without interference because it's light. Intel is proactive in making Lightpeak a powered connection.
thain @ Intel said it's working on bundling light peaks optical fiber with copper wire so Light Peak can be used to power devices plugged into the PC.
"it would be to have one cable for everything the inside of my PC would look great LOL"
We are so laughing out loud at that. The hilarity!
Ooops! Typo, I intended to wight "Light Peak".
And what did you intend to "write" this time?
Ok, I give up as I need to slow down...
Dan
yeah, is your name really Dan? Or is that a typo too? Don? Dawn? c'mon, fess up.
I read this earlier today...
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2355165,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532
Perhaps all of the pieces are starting to fall into place
Yes, this is complete nonsense.
Intel practically owns USB. "On September 18, 2007, Pat Gelsinger demonstrated USB 3.0 at the Intel Developer Forum."
"Pat Gelsinger is currently the President and Chief Operating Officer, EMC Information Infrastructure Products at EMC. Before joing EMC, he was the first Chief Technology Officer of Intel Corporation and Senior Vice-president and General Manager of the Digital Enterprise Group at Intel."
Intel developed drivers for USB3 for Linux over a year ago IIRC.
Intel is not stupid, no reason they would delay USB3 because something to compete with it is in development (unless it is set to be finished within a few months and be deployed mid next year).
Could this :http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/None/1813.htm maybe have something to do with Intel dragging their heals on USB 3.0?
From everything I've seen, Lightpeak looks to be a better tech. If I were Intel, I'd be looking to support something a bit more forward thinking than just a faster version of a tech that's never really been all that good to begin with.
Does this prevent AMD from integrating USB3.0 into their chipsets? I mean, if they could have the better part of a year jump on Intel, would that not be advantageous?
This is prolly gonna change. or else all of us Intel lovers are going to gangup on em.
With the DMI patch at only 2GBps, it will max out with a only 3 USB 3.0 ports, add that to SATA which has even higher bandwidth, and you can see that they need to triple it from this generation just to keep up with the new interfaces. We probably won't see that until Sandy Bridge which has a brand new MCP called the "System Agent."
Hopefully LightPeak comes out full swing next year so we don't even have to waste our time with USB 3.0
By the time it's full swing, and IF it ever becomes cost-effective, USB3 will be ubiquitous I bet.
Intel can blow me.
It was them that brought out Anti-Consumer crap such as HDCP.
And ID numbers in CPU's and TMP chips.
But hey they have good ideas too, and almost all companies are run by creeps without respect for their fellow citizens basically, it's damn hard to avoid the bad ones without an awful lot of self-sacrifice like living without cellphones and internet and computers and TV :[
WHAT THE FUCK INTEL!
Thank God for Asus for making USB 3.0 available soon and at a price any computer enthusiast can afford.
Ugh. I have always sided with Intel. I preferred their processors and tech over AMD's for so long now because they always seemed to have the latest and greatest ideas. But crap like this is making me think maybe my next rig will have a Phenom as a heart...
Shame on you Intel, this is some serious bull.