
It's been a few months since Nokia's
X6 hit the scene, but the touchscreen-based, S60-lovin'
smartphone is just about ready to ship out to those who've managed to avoid all of the other stellar options that have launched since early September. It seems as if Nokia is gearing up to ship the phone in at least some parts of the world exactly a week from today in concert with a Rihanna release party. And if
Expansys is correct, folks in the UK will see their orders ship out on November 12th. Too bad that £529.99 ($891) price tag is darn near debilitating, but hey, awesomeness has its price.
Or, you'll be downranked because
1. You deliberately spell words wrong on a daily basis.
2. You continue to ignore the difference between contracted and unlocked phones.
3. You couldn't troll harder if we paid you in iTunes gift cards.
Nokia didn't lose 35% market share last quarter. Where are you getting your numbers from?
In fact, they GAINED 1%.
Proof: http://www.canalys.com/pr/2009/r2009112.htm
The quoted price has 22% sales tax...
I could preorder this phone for 569.90€ from one site, with taxes. So it would be $701, or $757 with 8% sales tax.
i can have my gf DOCKED for free as long as she feel like it.
Damn it word, if you insist on crapping your verbal diarrhea all over the Engadget commenting system, at least reply to your first comment.
After spendinig $1000, would you still want to spend on docks? I wouldn't, i would just use in-box audio and video cables which will be more than enough. I can't afford over-spending on non-necessary accessories. May b you can, hence you want to buy a $99 iphone.
Truth, is that you? Judging by the "color" of your comment (or lack thereof), I think it is you.
And hey that price includes the price of "Comes With Music" service which is a 1 year all you can eat package for downloading Music.
Also again, as we all know, when launched in US market it will not have the direct currency conversion,
but almost same figure as Euros, so something around $500 USD. Infact i think it will be aroud $300,-$350 since we don't have Comes With Music service available in US.
@word: I believe that what you call "luxury" tax is best known as "un-subsidized preice for unlocked phones". So your comment makes no sense.
Could this troll at least get his facts right.
Nokia HAS 35% of smartphoneshare, down from 39%. So they have lost 4% of marketshare, not 35%.
And even this number might be a bit too pessimistic. 35% is from Nokia and there's talk that Nokia share is actually higher, as some researchers say Nokia has underestimated their share. They say Nokia overestimated how many phones other manufactorers made and sold, and the more correct marketshare for nokia is actually 37%.
So next time say "...reason y they recently lost 4% smartphone market share."
Two predictions:
1) It'll sell millions
2) It'll be cheap or free on contract
Oh yeah and can the mods hurry up and ban word? It's not so much the absolute bollocks he comes out with as the total mangling of the English language. Frankly the old girl's suffered enough.
I think this is a nice looking phone. I'll go and try one out once they're in UK stores.
Dear, World (excluding US and canada)
explain to me why do you buy Nokia, they look cool but are they??? causes their really expensive unsubsidized
sincerely, a pre owner
thank you
They are also good value when subsidised. I pay £30/mo for 18 months for my N95 8GB, with a reasonable amount of usage and a 'don't take the piss' Data allowance. I will be buying the N900 Unsubsidised as I only have a couple of months left on my current contract, so I would go down to spending about £10/mo for the similar amount of usage that I currently have.
rinum009: guess what, iphones, blackberries and android devices would be just as expensive unsubisidized.
but nobody buys them unsubsidized. and almost nobody buys unsubsidized nokias either.
@rinum009: Pretty much what G said, really.
On an expensive monthly plan you usually get the phone for free with a 2 year contract. On cheaper monthly plans the phone's price is still reasonable, so people buy it.
Almost nobody pays the price that Engadget mentions here. It's actually funny to me how Engadget treats the subsidized (iPhone/Pre/Droid...) prices the same as unsubsidized ones. You pretty much _never_ see mentioned that you need at least a $70 plan to get the iPhone at $100 or whatever. (Just mentioning iPhone as an example, no flame or anything.)
yeah i know about contracts and subsidized phones, but what about Nokia do they make good phones, and why do i keep seeing a new Nokia coming on the market. i know their the # 1 cell phone maker, but why, European countries have a much better selection of phones and i just want to know what is it that makes you get a Nokia... quality, UI/OS, value
i just want to know what is it with Nokia????
It's not like I couldn't afford an $900 cell phone if I really wanted to. But I would never want to spend 900 dollars on a damn cellphone. I barely rationalized spending 200 on one by saying I needed emailing for work.
Yeah, that's because it's unlocked and it has the CWM feature. That's the only thing propelling the price so high. I bet Vodafone will get it first, so you're bound to see something around $300 subsidized whenever that happens
Agree!! But as per my post above, this is not a $900 phone as Engadget gladly projects it to be.
And as usual, engadget didn't take into account that the EU prices have sales tax, as in US the prices are given without it. So when converting to US price with the release price of £529.99 the price isn't $891 but more like $711.
And even this price is the one resellers early adopter's price, even in the linked article states that the expected street price is expected to be 450€ ($540]. And it comes with 12 months of free all you can eat music buffet.
I use to only buy symbian phones for years but I couldn't picture going back to one these days...maemo maybe though.
Nokia, please ... just let S60 die. You've managed to get the capacitive bit right now how about an OS from this generation.
Ok, that's just ridiculous.
"Yeah, you're right random commentator, we're gonna go kill our OS, which is leading the Mobile OS marketshare platform, just because it doesn't fit with the new generation."
We should know by now that while aesthetics wouldn't kill you, it's more important to be a functional OS. That's why S60 "won't die".
There will be new revamped Symbian ^2 and Symbian ^4 next year i.e 2010.
I presume I'm to take someone with the handle "N900" as unbiased and objective?
I'll admit freely that I'm biased against Symbian ... but that's because I've used it.
Wait, so I'm not simply because of username identification?
7650, 6630, 6681, N72, 5800
I didn't pick this name out of a hat. ..|..
You've used a 5800 and you're still planning to buy a phone from Nokia, particularly one with a resistive touchscreen? We see the world through different eyes, clearly.
....Where did I say I was planning to buy a new Nokia phone? Again, username identification. (should have just picked some random username..)
But listen, to each his own. I have to understand that.
Sorry about the middle finger =\.
I'm confused. You choose a new username for each article? I thought you were naming yourself after the current phone you had/wanted.
I just want my Android 2.0 for my HERO, Sprint!
Just looked at some more pics of the phone.. gawd damn that's thick!
i could only wish that's what she said
actually you're just dumb, comparing a contract price with a non-contract price.
It's not $891 in the US of A***
like the look:)
like the look too ;)
No don't buy this if you don't like it. But hey, first open your eyes and do some smart intelligent comparison and then decide. Don't act like a fool.
Isn't the above $49 price a refurbished price? Even if its $99 non-refurbished iphone 3g not 3gs;
Does your iphone come unlocked? If you jailbreak it or unlock it outside, does it still have 1 yr Apple warranty? Do you get 1 year of unlimited song downloads with the iphone at above price? Can you install any apps from anywhere without jailbreaking and hence without breaking the warranty?
Does you iphone come without a 2 yr voice contract? Does it come without a 2 yr data plan contract?
The answer to all of the above questions for iphone is "No", but for this Nokia phone is "Yes" and not only Nokia but for any unlocked phone from any manufacturer except Apple.
So now tell me, are you a smart consumer? You don't need to be any fanboy to be a smart consumer. But as expected, most of the people like you have curtains in front of their eyes.
especially when you're comparing a refurbished phone's contract price (that requires you to purchase/steal music) to a non-contract phone price (that comes with all the tunes you can download)
I like the way how Nokia sticks to S60 :-) (I usually root for the underdog...). And don't forget: Nokia is a R&D powerhouse. Bloggers could bash them as they want, but I bet they will be the first ones with a 4G smartphone released.
I was thinking of getting this phone....till I saw it in action.
Usually, seeing the phone will be the home run that'll confirm the buy. As soon as I saw how the OS responds to touch, I was ready to run the other direction.
And this is coming from a former N95 owner for 2 years, who gave the E71 a chance, the 5800 a chance as well as the N97.
None of them were, in my opinion, great.
The camera in E71 was hopeless. Add to that the keys being too small, a 2.5 mm headphone jack (instead of standard 3.5) and the back being all-metal with the phone antenna's at the bottom of the phone...which my hand would cover when answering a call thus making my reception awful.
5800 - 1st up, the UI looked so gosh darn dated. Overall, a decent touchscreen (albeit, resistive which had my smashing the screen with my thumb to get it to register) but a texting nightmare.
N97 - Ohh where do I begin? The underpowered processor? that ghastly keypad layout? The stupid D-pad on the left side? and it may just have been my N97, but my favorite Sony headphones sounded totally like the music was a bunch of cats whining. I dunno if the N97 has a problem with non-Nokia headphones.
Add to that, back in the N95 days there were no App Stores...so even though we had to hunt all over the internet for decent apps, it was still much more awesome to have this multimedia smart phone device thingy which was able to beat the iPhone 2G on so many levels.
2 years later, ...ummm yeah. The Ovi store! That's been a runaway success hasn't it? P.O.S. Not to mention that whole symbian signed fiasco, where yeah....you could upload any file you wanted on to a Nokia s60 smartphone....as long as it's Symbian Signed. And for most of us, THAT was a whole 'nother pandora's box to deal with.
Where did Nokia go from innovating, to just catching up?
Releasing a 5mpx smartphone with a great OS and capacitive touchscreen? Already out - Samsung Galaxy i7500. Heck, the Samsung i890 is a phone with Symbian OS and 8mpx cameraphone. The Sony Erricson Xperia is coming X10 is coming out, Android powered with an 8mpx camera. HTC HD2 with 5mpx, LED flash all the goodies.
Only phone of any worth coming out of Finland is the N900 running on Maemo. That too, it's got T-mob 3G bands so it isolates the at&t users to some extent.
Nokia might just wanna cut down it's loss and stick to India and Sub-saharan africa with low-cost handsets till it can come up with a world beater again.
I respect both of your comments, bro.
Please, just stop wasting my bandwidth.
And word finds math hard.
I have the 5800 NAM and the firmware updates fixed the unresponsive screen. I'd have preferred capacitive too, but oh well. Also the price was under $300 for an unlocked phone free of carrier bloat and restrictions. I can do what I want with it without having to cry to the carrier or manufacturer, and I'm actually pretty happy with it.
@ Mobile Phone Diva
I guess each to his own. Even my iPhone does not have any carrier bloatware, and with it being unlocked and jailbroken..there's so much I can do with it. My other phone, the Blackberry Bold...I was able to take off the bloatware by installing a leaked RIM "engineering version" of the Blackberry OS which had none of AT&T's proprietary stuff.
I'm actually done with Nokia and S60. Even the E72 doesn't have the "stuff" to excite a smartphone user. All I'm waiting for is either the N900 on AT&T's 3G band, or an android device with a great camera.
For the most part I agree with you.
But I did and still do love the E71. I am dual wielding an N97 and a E71 and I have found the E71 to be a superb phone; in fact one of the best phones even among the weight of newer and snazzier devices.
The N97, mmmm... not so great. In fact it's gawdawful. However, I reformatted it and reinstalled the apps to the mass memory and by in large, that has solved most of its problems. My updated (2.0) N97 is really speedy and responsive with the tweaks and management I gave to it. But yeah, it shouldn't require a user to put in that much effort to make anything work.
I haven't given up on Symbian & S60 yet simply because since people have been predicting death for the platform, I have yet to see a compelling OS that matches it. S60 v3 is rock solid, stable and feature packed to the brim, which is more than can be said of any other platform atm. Other platforms have snazziness but to me, that hasn't translated to "better" by any stretch. Symbian and the S platforms have several years yet to it.
The Symbian OS and S60 is also at the to[p of the rung in mobile use-case (mobile usability) and I personally truly believe that their core belief is true today. esentially, do not waste the users' time and all resource is limited. This has lead to an OS that can compete feature for feature with today's smartphones while still being better suited for mobility use and extended battery life. It just doesn't look as nice.
I mean it's all good to have the new fandangled phones but honestly 5-8 hours of use and most new phones die now. Something which I can accept in a casual device or toy but not as my primary use mobile device. For instance I can go through 4 batteries on the N97 before my E71 starts to need a recharge (yes I have a lot of 1500 batteries). The iPhone fares even worse with less hours of use per charge and being non-replaceable.
The current crop of OS still have some ways to go yet before I declare them "better" than the Symbian OS.
even with the free music,how in the world is this more expensive than a HTC Touch HD2 ( about $730 in the UK)???