The first reason? Stupid. The second? Kinda makes sense. I lost the ability to play games I paid for and use the hard drive that I also paid for to install games.
If that gets fixed, yay. If not, no sweat. its really small beans and I'm surprised at what constitutes a lawsuit these days.
@Bryan I know, because I'm using it still. But when they banned us from xbl they also removed hardware functionality. Since I paid for the hardware and I own it I'm technically allowed to still use it in any way I please as long as I purchase games from now on. The problems are minor, but still significant as a beach of fair use.
@Ghen Did they remove features of the hardware as shipped or features that were enabled by being a member of x-box live (silver or gold)? Since they don't ship with the copy to HD feature, you lost then when you lost access to live.
You can still play your 'backup copies' of your games, just not online or with feature that are enabled by being part of live.
I purchased a new console 2 weeks before the ban. It shipped with the ability to copy to hard drive as well as steam media from my computer. Your current argument makes sense for older consoles, but every single banned console including ones that can be purchased today, hacked, and banned lose those abilities.
If you look, I'll bet it states that those features are contingent upon being connected to Xbox Live. As in, if you're not connected, you can't use those features.
You never had to be connected to Live to copy a disc to the HDD. I never attached my xbox to the network before I got my Live sub through Sam's Club, and I copied several games to the HDD. For my particular console, I got the update through Live, but Ghen's argument is that his box came w/ the functionality out of the box. I do remember media streaming worked out of the box for me back in 2007 too...
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The first reason? Stupid. The second? Kinda makes sense. I lost the ability to play games I paid for and use the hard drive that I also paid for to install games.
If that gets fixed, yay. If not, no sweat. its really small beans and I'm surprised at what constitutes a lawsuit these days.
@Ghen
They are just banned from live, the xbox isnt unusable.
@Bryan I know, because I'm using it still. But when they banned us from xbl they also removed hardware functionality. Since I paid for the hardware and I own it I'm technically allowed to still use it in any way I please as long as I purchase games from now on. The problems are minor, but still significant as a beach of fair use.
@Ghen
Did they remove features of the hardware as shipped or features that were enabled by being a member of x-box live (silver or gold)? Since they don't ship with the copy to HD feature, you lost then when you lost access to live.
You can still play your 'backup copies' of your games, just not online or with feature that are enabled by being part of live.
@ERock
I purchased a new console 2 weeks before the ban. It shipped with the ability to copy to hard drive as well as steam media from my computer. Your current argument makes sense for older consoles, but every single banned console including ones that can be purchased today, hacked, and banned lose those abilities.
If you look, I'll bet it states that those features are contingent upon being connected to Xbox Live. As in, if you're not connected, you can't use those features.
You never had to be connected to Live to copy a disc to the HDD. I never attached my xbox to the network before I got my Live sub through Sam's Club, and I copied several games to the HDD. For my particular console, I got the update through Live, but Ghen's argument is that his box came w/ the functionality out of the box. I do remember media streaming worked out of the box for me back in 2007 too...