Engadget Podcast 172 - 11.23.2009
By Trent Wolbe 
posted Nov 23rd 2009 9:40AM
posted Nov 23rd 2009 9:40AM
Hosts: Joshua Topolsky, Nilay Patel, Paul Miller
Producer: Trent Wolbe
Song: Bit.shifter - The World Has Turned And Left Me Here
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01:38 - Google's Chrome OS revealed
26:52 - AT&T loses request for injunction against Verizon's Map for That ads
30:28 - AT&T 'hits' back at Verizon's Map for That campaign with an 'ad' of its own
34:20 - Welcome to the next Engadget
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I can't stand bitshifter. I love chiptunes as much as the next person, but wtf?
Now consuming all the same. Cuddle buddies, ftw.
Agreed there. Bitshifter's music gets annoying real fast.
Paul is excited about Chrome OS. Does that mean it has a touch screen keyboard?
I totally dig the new redesign and agree with what you guys are saying. Before, even when constantly reading the site along with using Google Reader, there would be times when I would miss a story and not know it. But, with this new redesign, I think it makes it easier to make sure I see the biggest stories.
Where the hell is the HD2 Review?
A lot of important data is hidden away in "Replies".
Please show replies to posts by default
@Girish
"Important data" - is that how we now refer to peoples sarcastic, juvenile, hater, or fanboy comments?
Don't get me wrong, there are some gems of comments, but 80/20 at least.
And I still wouldn't call it "important data".
Maybe it would be good if it was user definable, so you could set it for you either to "default show" or "default hide"
Hello, Nilay Patel. Get a clue. If a network has more nodes and more coverage such that you can actually make or receive a frigging call as opposed to not being able to do either one of those basic things at all, the very basis of SERVICE, it is a better network by definition. Get your head out of your butt. Stop being a professional contrarian. Bring facts not internet punditry.
If you want to talk service plans, the quality of signals, etc, that is one thing, but you stated none of this. Using the word "conflation" doesn't signal to me any intelligence when you are making nonsensical assertions.
@(Unverified)
I think you're missing the point. If I understand Nilay correctly, his point was that a coverage map is not a direct indicator of service quality. Even in places where AT&T's map is blue (see large cities like San Francisco and New York), their 3G coverage is still shoddy, with phones often reverting to EDGE (if not dropping calls altogether). Just because an area is "covered," doesn't mean it's covered well.
Why does everyone keep poking at apple not being able to do multi-tasking?
I can easily browse a website, hit the home switch, tweet something, send messages, etc, do whatever, then again I can come back to the browser and resume at exactly the same place I left (infact even the cursor position on some input box remains there).
So what's the whole point?
I can do all the general activities any other multi-tasking phones can.
It's just perspective.
@Girish Try using any IM or non-Apple music player.
The scroll bars on google-wave is actually a lot more sensible than the existing ones, it's just different.
Once you get used to it, the benefits are huge.
One of the most noteworthy feature was: When you press the up/down buttons on the scrollbar, only the shadow moves, the bar itself doesn't move, so that you can continue to press the button at the same place.
It's actually pretty cool
I really do like the site, but I have to respectably disagree with the idea that the Times New Roman effect is a matter of opinion. Our eyes don't really bleed, that's just a hyperbolic representation of eyestrain. My backpack doesn't actually weigh a ton, either. It actually makes it a little tougher to read. I really don't think it's opinion-based, it's fact based. Serifed fonts look okay on a web page, as long as we have clear type turned on. How many of us turn on clear type? Also, just look at the italicized TNR. How can you disagree that it is unreadable?
However, I'll take your suggestion and give it a chance. It's just oh so distracting to me. I do agree that it's cool that you're different from every other site out there, and that it kind of has a newspaper feel. It's just tough on the eyes. Not an opinion, a fact...
Is there a new podcast rss link? http://podcasts.engadget.com/rss.xml is the one I have in my reader and it just shows all the regular engadget posts.
@milrtime83 I have same problem in google reader all the posts appear on the podcast rss mp3 feed. Even more strange if I see the xml in firefox only the podcast appear, something weird with the connection to google in happening.
Love the PODCAST