1a: Steorn may well be Bullspitting 1b: No-one here knows the intricacies of Quantum Physics to any meaningful extent, and the mysteries of the universe are FAR from explained, explored or discovered, no matter what the general feeling among the "Cult of Science" is. 2: The arrogance of Mockery shows nothing other than a lack of intellect, and while common (see Ars Technical, Neowin, et al) is the bane of loving almost every other aspect of these sites. It is, very sometimes, amusing. 3: I want Steorn to be right so that the Mockers can STFU - maybe once and for all.
@alsheron People are mocking Steorn because when people DID believe him he delivered absolutely 0. That's very different from doubting some innocent little physicist cooking up some infinite energy source in his basement.
@alsheron You don't need to know Quantum Physics to mock this. You only needed to pay attention in your high school science class to know this is bogus. Guess you were sick that day.
Actually they could be right... there is a slim chance, but they could be. After all, it happens that physics law are rewritten or revised. In this case, there are probably only 2 options though: 1. they are producing free energy, and the most fundamental law of physics (you know - nothing created, nothing destroyed) is wrong. In which case we might just as well throw all physics books and start from scratch 2. it's not really free energy, somehow by mistake or without realizing they are actually sucking out energy from a parallel universe or something - quantum physics, I guess it's possible... but it's not free energy mate, still got it from somewhere!
@foe I think you don't actually need to get energy from another universe. It should be possible to *extract* some energy from the magnets, by damaging the ordinated structure of the magnetic dominos, thus increasing the entropy within the system, but obviously killing the magnet. There's no need to violate the laws of thermodynamics.
@foe 2. It wouldn't be the first time, would it? What is it with the people in this world that thinks that we know everything? Pure arrogance, that's what.
@jon Not saying it's right or wrong, but he could simply have stumbled into a method of generating energy off the rotation of Earth or the pull of the Moon. I'm not sure what the forces concerned are a the scale of this device, but I certainly don't rule out the possibility of a highly efficient kinetic machine. I wouldn't put my house up for an investment on this though.
It's also possible that they've discovered an efficient way to power a machine using magnetic monopoles, thus outperforming all of the physics departments in all of the universities and corporations in the world to make an opaque box with a little spinny thing inside.
Or, this is all a ruse, covering megatron who's secretly filling energon cubes with this distracting device. If only they had made it shiny, perhaps it would have grabbed our attention longer. Oh, and if only they hadn't made the transformers movies 'so gay'
@alsheron Some people are starting to irritate me. Are they so blind as to ignore simple, observable thermodynamics? Can the average Jo not be a little more intelligent? This is some silly scam, and free energy is simply not possible, and please do not spout some crap about there being "a chance" and what not. Maybe the people Steorn tricked last time would kindly think about checking out of the gene pool, strictly for the good of humanity and all.
@Kiester I will or I wont believe this, but first I need PROOF one way or another...
One the traditional physicists front, besides quoting the law of thermodynamics over and over again, no one has broken this thing apart and said "HERE!, This is where it is losing energy, and this is when the energy of the system will reach zero and the device will cease working." I mean, if the Law of Thermodynamics holds, that is what will happen, the device will work for a period of time and then fail once the energy in the device finally reaches zero. When someone can tell me exactly where it is losing energy, exactly how much energy it consumes, how much energy it generates, and the approximate half-life of the system, I will call it busted.
Now, for Steorn's part, not one has even BEGUN to tell me HOW this works. Besides saying "Magnets" over and over again. What about the magnets? What is happening? How? What are those charts showing? And the same as the traditional physicists, how much energy in, how much energy out? Oh, and for an added bonus, put a damn load on it. Once you do all that, I will defend you until I die.
Until either of those criteria are met, I will remain apathetic, and kindly ask the lot of you (both sides) to STFU! I can't hear the logic with all your emo bellyaching!
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1a: Steorn may well be Bullspitting
1b: No-one here knows the intricacies of Quantum Physics to any meaningful extent, and the mysteries of the universe are FAR from explained, explored or discovered, no matter what the general feeling among the "Cult of Science" is.
2: The arrogance of Mockery shows nothing other than a lack of intellect, and while common (see Ars Technical, Neowin, et al) is the bane of loving almost every other aspect of these sites. It is, very sometimes, amusing.
3: I want Steorn to be right so that the Mockers can STFU - maybe once and for all.
@alsheron People are mocking Steorn because when people DID believe him he delivered absolutely 0. That's very different from doubting some innocent little physicist cooking up some infinite energy source in his basement.
@alsheron uh yeah, maybe you should go back to reading '60s pulp science fiction books instead of thinking too hard about science facts...
@alsheron You don't need to know Quantum Physics to mock this. You only needed to pay attention in your high school science class to know this is bogus. Guess you were sick that day.
@alsheron
Actually they could be right... there is a slim chance, but they could be. After all, it happens that physics law are rewritten or revised. In this case, there are probably only 2 options though:
1. they are producing free energy, and the most fundamental law of physics (you know - nothing created, nothing destroyed) is wrong. In which case we might just as well throw all physics books and start from scratch
2. it's not really free energy, somehow by mistake or without realizing they are actually sucking out energy from a parallel universe or something - quantum physics, I guess it's possible... but it's not free energy mate, still got it from somewhere!
@alsheron "I want Steorn to be right so that the Mockers can STFU"
How about you want into one hand and shit into the other, and see which fills up first. No matter how much you "want" this to be real, it isn't.
@foe
I think you don't actually need to get energy from another universe. It should be possible to *extract* some energy from the magnets, by damaging the ordinated structure of the magnetic dominos, thus increasing the entropy within the system, but obviously killing the magnet. There's no need to violate the laws of thermodynamics.
@foe 2. It wouldn't be the first time, would it? What is it with the people in this world that thinks that we know everything? Pure arrogance, that's what.
Just to make sure I've got this right,
Foe, you're suggesting that these guys tapped might have into a parallel universe with a handful of store bought magnets?
And Honza, you're saying it's not the first time this has happened?
@jon Not saying it's right or wrong, but he could simply have stumbled into a method of generating energy off the rotation of Earth or the pull of the Moon. I'm not sure what the forces concerned are a the scale of this device, but I certainly don't rule out the possibility of a highly efficient kinetic machine. I wouldn't put my house up for an investment on this though.
@alsheron
It's also possible that they've discovered an efficient way to power a machine using magnetic monopoles, thus outperforming all of the physics departments in all of the universities and corporations in the world to make an opaque box with a little spinny thing inside.
@foe
Or, this is all a ruse, covering megatron who's secretly filling energon cubes with this distracting device. If only they had made it shiny, perhaps it would have grabbed our attention longer. Oh, and if only they hadn't made the transformers movies 'so gay'
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@alsheron
Some people are starting to irritate me. Are they so blind as to ignore simple, observable thermodynamics? Can the average Jo not be a little more intelligent? This is some silly scam, and free energy is simply not possible, and please do not spout some crap about there being "a chance" and what not. Maybe the people Steorn tricked last time would kindly think about checking out of the gene pool, strictly for the good of humanity and all.
@Kiester I will or I wont believe this, but first I need PROOF one way or another...
One the traditional physicists front, besides quoting the law of thermodynamics over and over again, no one has broken this thing apart and said "HERE!, This is where it is losing energy, and this is when the energy of the system will reach zero and the device will cease working." I mean, if the Law of Thermodynamics holds, that is what will happen, the device will work for a period of time and then fail once the energy in the device finally reaches zero. When someone can tell me exactly where it is losing energy, exactly how much energy it consumes, how much energy it generates, and the approximate half-life of the system, I will call it busted.
Now, for Steorn's part, not one has even BEGUN to tell me HOW this works. Besides saying "Magnets" over and over again. What about the magnets? What is happening? How? What are those charts showing? And the same as the traditional physicists, how much energy in, how much energy out? Oh, and for an added bonus, put a damn load on it. Once you do all that, I will defend you until I die.
Until either of those criteria are met, I will remain apathetic, and kindly ask the lot of you (both sides) to STFU! I can't hear the logic with all your emo bellyaching!