TeliaSonera's new LTE network astounds with 43Mbps downloads
By Thomas Ricker 
posted December 16th 2009 4:46AM
posted December 16th 2009 4:46AM
posted December 16th 2009 4:46AM
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Do this comes on plans with 1Gb/mo traffic limit?
@ascenvia
You could use 1Gb of bandwidth in 20 seconds.
@Erb Damn! Isn't that almost like premature ejaculation?
Start download ... ... ... ... ... spent.
@ascenvia
As Erb indicates, capitalization is important. You meant 1 GB.
@ascenvia
The agreement states that TeliaSonera reserves the rights to limit the speed to 120kbit/s if the usage exceeds 30 GB/month.
Just in time for the Steam's free weekend of Team Fortress 2. :)
I want to see something like this in America.
I'm sick and tired of AT&T's "nation's fastest" claim :D
@Erb
You do know Sprint has a 4G network covering 30 million people in the US and on track to hit 120 million people by EOY 2010 with 6Mb down/ 2Mb up guaranteed and 15 Mb/sec peaks right?
And it costs as much at Att's 3G service and the data card is free.
@Erb
Oh and no data cap either.
@Erb
How many other places also only have 5gig limits, yet still charge you $60?
@COCOViper
The whole lower side of michigan is almost ready. The IPCS problems were stopping sprint from turning it on. And they just bought them out!
I have att dsl right now and i am switching when they turn on clearwire over here!
@Erb
will LTE sink ATT's infrastructure as they're already complaining that iPhones are hogging up the bandwidth...
With that speed, you can exceed your allotted bandwidth in less than 2 hours ;)
@Dudeman
Thankfully that's not a problem in Finland, Sweden, Norway as there isn't thing called bandwidth limiter. Can't talk about rest of the Europe thought.
@Pdexter
It says in the news they'll offer this with a 30GB cap (maybe they'll offer an unlimited plan, too).
I'd say in Europe it's also normal to have bandwidth caps for mobile internet. Not so much for the regular internet, tho. (except in Belgium or something...)
@Endadget Data caps are pretty much unheard-of here in Finland atleast. It's a nice change must say :)
@Pdexter
It will be probably capped to 30 GB/month according to a Telia Sonera spokesman. The price will be 599 SEK (80 USD) in Sweden and 880 NOK (145 USD )in norway
http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.279481/4g--extra-dyrt-for-norrman.
ps. google translate
@ncg
Let me correct myself it's 699 NOK (115 USD)
Bah, that's faster than my 10Mbit Virgin Media connection (10Mbit down/512k up). I hate Swedes :(
This speed will be useless in the end when providers are putting bandwidth caps left and right. I mean come on, it's almost 2010 and the cap with most wireless providers is still 5GB in the US.
@pika2000 Haha, the US is such a 3rd world country.
@unyari If you want to talk about bandwidth caps, US actually is not that bad. Other countries suffer even more draconian bandwidth caps.
@pika2000 I currently use 3G service without any caps. I'm in Siberia :)
@frippi I fail to see your point. There are countries that have bandwidth caps measured in megabytes.
@pika2000 In megabytes? Where? I need to steer clear of those countries.
@pika2000
In Slovenia my cap is 1 GB and that's included in a 15€ package that has some of everything (a lot of free txts, calls, etc). imo 1 GB is enough if you don't use your phone as a modem too much. I spend a lot of time browsing the internet on my phone and at the end of the month i use around 250 MB, not more.
If i wanted to get the unlimited mobile internet service i'd have to pay 35€ extra per month and if we didn't have optical at my house i'd consider using it as main way of connecting. I just tested the connection using my phone as a modem and got 5/1 Mbps which is quite decent. http://www.speedtest.net/result/654720748.png
Not to rain on their parade, but in real-life with enough subscribers per base-station it will crawl down to 2Mb/s at best :(
@sheikhness
Oh really? My TeliaSonera 3G connection averages over 4 Mbps down/1 Mbps up. I have a hard time imagining their 4G being slower than their 3G.
Too late...
http://www.hkepc.com/4335
@Kit That's not a network being launched.. just a "Technology Center".
Yes I can read Chinese.
Faster than my ComCrap.
It isn't supposed to do 100mbit/s. During launch the network caps out at 50 mbit/s down. Later they'll open it up to 80 mbit/s (according to the FAQ on telia's website).
good lord. that's about twice the speed you'll get out of wireless-g. and given that it has much farther range, you could just about blanket (generally smaller) countries in wifi-speed internet. awesome.
Well, all those numbers you people quote are purely academical. Yes the LTE radio access is more efficient than 3G, but there are laws of physics to be taken into account here - if TS or any other operator were to deploy 200:1 subscriber:BTS ratio, all would be fine, but more often than not the BTS are way oversubscribed in densely populated urban areas, thus making data radio access a lower priority. And I am not even talking about refractions etc Which traffic LTE network operator will give priority to, you think? Your voice-call (even if it's IP-based) or your pr0n browsing?
@sheikhness
Why put voice on LTE when GSM and 3G networks are in place? And how do you think voice would affect bandwidth if they did, a normal gsm compressed call is about 8Kbits/s. TeliaSoneras LTE network will be used for broadband access mainly for some time, and when voice handsets arrive it will have little to no impact. Number of mobile broadband users will of course affect your speed as all it does in all data networks.
@MartenKL
Well, there's this:http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/04/coalition-of-carriers-manufacturers-settle-on-voice-standard-fo/
looks like they all looking to do it, so there must be a need
@sheikhness Sure there's a need. Handsets requiring the LTE hardware would boost demand; production of LTE hardware would increase to meet demand; higher production volume reduces costs; mutant space pythons eat broken sidewalk chunks; rinse and repeat.
Sure still not as fast but it meets my demands. Seems like affordable fast internet for everyone, everywhere, is just around the corner. Something giant wifi hotspots hasn't been able to deliver in ages.
@blinddance It's "affordable" on paper, that is until the wireless carriers execs get their say.
@pika2000 when consumers have THEIR say, the carries will have to lower their price. Since it is "'affordable' on paper" as you state, they will be able to do this, and still make profit.
I'm sure this speed will be throttled. No doubt about it, I cant see every user having that kind of speed when it rolls out to a wider audience.
I bet there isn't an App for that.
faster than my home broadband (8mb down / 512 up) but they need to stop all this cap rubbish
Some additional info:
-It will only cost 4 SEK/month until July (!)
The modem is free if you subscribe for 12 months (worth 3495 SEK)
-The modem isn't compatible with 3G and if you move outside 4G reception, the link will die
-When there are 2-3-4 g modems are available, you are allowed to switch for free
First of ... even thou Norway and Sweeden uses Kroner as currency, Norway has NOK, and Sweeden has SEK. The price for the 4G in Sweeden is 599,- SEK. In Norway you`ll get the same 4G stuff from Netcom, but since Netcom pretty much is owned by TeliaSonera, their so to say the same company. BUT Netcom that offers 4G in Norway on the other hand demands 699,- NOK a moth for their 4G. More info for your english reads can be read here on Netcoms homepage https://netcom.no/mobiltbredband/4g/4Gengelsk.html ... The funny thing is that the Norwegian Kroner is stronger then the Sweedish Kroner ( thats why we Norwegian drive over the border and buy up all the beer befor christmas ;) ) ... so what does 699 NOK and 599 SEK come out to in USD ? ... it comes out like this : 699 NOK = 120.90 USD , 599 SEK = 84.18 USD.
As for the Term of Use ... Yes we Norwegian have to live with the 30GB datacap in the 4G network. But I hope to see this change when the other big teleoperator Telenor starts offer it`s own 4G LTE Network. And it will get cheaper to ... for now only Oslo have around 200 basestations and can enjoy the juice from LTE. By the end of 2010 Netcom hope to have done Bergen, Stavanger and Trondheim ...
The AT&Ts 4G network will be around 50 Kbits if they ever get one.
@Jacob Apple Geek
Really? That's strange, because i get 2mbps down now on AT&T 3g.....
The slowest I get on AT&T 3G (via USB-tethered JB iPhone) is 1Mbps, which beats what I got tethering my former Sprint phone or my wife's former Verizon (XV6800 w/ DCD firmware) phone, both EVDO Rev. A. I'm not in a major metro, but still only 18 miles north of NYC.
Well, about the cap.
Im a swed, and ive got Telia 3G. Here we have a speed cap, not a download cap, but it does not apply. My cap is 5gb a month, but its not a download cap, but a speed cap. After ive downloaded 5gb of date, telia have the right to lower my speed (from 7,2mbit/s to 0.5mbit/s).
However, they only have the right to do this, but they dont apply it, since its only used if the #G network is near the max capability, which is not hte case in scandinavia (since we have both nokia and ericsson who have built huge 3G network that covers the entire region).
No matter how much I drool, I don't think I can get it any time soon!