Switched On: The camcorder strikes back
Ross Rubin (@rossrubin) contributes Switched On, a column about consumer technology.
As it often does at its product introductions, Apple took a subtle swipe at the Flip camcorder when it introduced the video camera-equipped iPod nano this fall. The sales volumes of the iPod nano even caused some to proclaim Apple's revision of the most popular iPod to be a Flip-killer. The inexpensive Flip camcorder has long proven tenacious, however, fending off competition from major brands such as Sony and Kodak, as well as value players like Aiptek and DXG -- not to mention nearly every digital camera and cellphone that can shoot video. Besides, the iPod nano has outsold the Flip camcorder many times over; why would Apple care about such incremental competition?
One answer is that the developers of the Flip camcorder (now the Pure Digital division of Cisco) aren't just hawking a cheap digital geegaw. Even before Pure Digital sold its first "disposable" camcorder, the company understood ecosystems. Back then, that involved installing processing equipment at retailers such as CVS, as the company's business model relied on getting consumers to develop prints and create DVDs in stores. Since those days, the utilitarian application it originally shipped for transferring videos to PCs has given way to FlipShare , which is clearly designed to be the equivalent of iTunes for video. And more recently, it introduced Flipshare.com to provide its own spin on organizing and sharing videos online, including to devices beyond the PC.
That became evident with the recent debut of FlipShareTV, a digital media adapter with a couple of twists. Much like the Apple TV extends iTunes to the TV, FlipShareTV extends the FlipShare software. But unlike TV add-ons that can access multiple media types and tap in to services like Netflix, FlipShareTV plays only personal video (and photos clipped from videos). This enables a simpler marketing message than, say, Apple TV. FlipShareTV also requires that the host PC use a USB stick in order to pair with and stream videos to the FlipShareTV. Cisco's rationale is that configuring a device on WiFi is difficult enough to alienate a large part of the market that Pure Digital wants to reach. (Again: take that, Apple TV.) This is, to say the least, a surprising approach coming from a division of the greatest commercial champion of Internet Protocol on the globe, and owner of Linksys, the leading brand of consumer home networking equipment
With FlipShareTV, Pure Digital has worked hard -- perhaps too hard -- to remove some of the marketplace and technical barriers in getting video from Computer A to Television B. Putting aside the challenges that home networking add-ons for TVs have faced overall and whether there is enough demand for a product as specialized as FlipShareTV, the product is more interesting in what it signifies than what it achieves. Much like Apple used its ecosystem to ward off competitors in the MP3 player space, Pure Digital's integration of hardware, software and services are designed to defend it as declining flash memory prices enable larger competitors to narrow the gap with the Flip's size and price.
As its ecosystem develops, though, Pure Digital could easily shift to using it for other content types -- photos would be a natural next step, and then perhaps even music. Pure Digital humbly notes that it is simply looking to build trust with consumers as they use its products to store and share their memories. But it's also building what could be a dark horse rival to the Apple and Microsoft approach to processing and managing personal content -- content that's the key part of consumers' digital lifestyles. Upending their value would be a flip indeed.
(Ed. note: Want more on the FlipShareTV? Check out our full review!)
Ross Rubin is executive director of industry analysis for consumer technology at market research and analysis firm The NPD Group. Views expressed in Switched On are his own.

One answer is that the developers of the Flip camcorder (now the Pure Digital division of Cisco) aren't just hawking a cheap digital geegaw. Even before Pure Digital sold its first "disposable" camcorder, the company understood ecosystems. Back then, that involved installing processing equipment at retailers such as CVS, as the company's business model relied on getting consumers to develop prints and create DVDs in stores. Since those days, the utilitarian application it originally shipped for transferring videos to PCs has given way to FlipShare , which is clearly designed to be the equivalent of iTunes for video. And more recently, it introduced Flipshare.com to provide its own spin on organizing and sharing videos online, including to devices beyond the PC.
That became evident with the recent debut of FlipShareTV, a digital media adapter with a couple of twists. Much like the Apple TV extends iTunes to the TV, FlipShareTV extends the FlipShare software. But unlike TV add-ons that can access multiple media types and tap in to services like Netflix, FlipShareTV plays only personal video (and photos clipped from videos). This enables a simpler marketing message than, say, Apple TV. FlipShareTV also requires that the host PC use a USB stick in order to pair with and stream videos to the FlipShareTV. Cisco's rationale is that configuring a device on WiFi is difficult enough to alienate a large part of the market that Pure Digital wants to reach. (Again: take that, Apple TV.) This is, to say the least, a surprising approach coming from a division of the greatest commercial champion of Internet Protocol on the globe, and owner of Linksys, the leading brand of consumer home networking equipment
Pure Digital is building what could be a dark horse rival to the Apple and Microsoft approach to processing and managing personal content. |
With FlipShareTV, Pure Digital has worked hard -- perhaps too hard -- to remove some of the marketplace and technical barriers in getting video from Computer A to Television B. Putting aside the challenges that home networking add-ons for TVs have faced overall and whether there is enough demand for a product as specialized as FlipShareTV, the product is more interesting in what it signifies than what it achieves. Much like Apple used its ecosystem to ward off competitors in the MP3 player space, Pure Digital's integration of hardware, software and services are designed to defend it as declining flash memory prices enable larger competitors to narrow the gap with the Flip's size and price.
As its ecosystem develops, though, Pure Digital could easily shift to using it for other content types -- photos would be a natural next step, and then perhaps even music. Pure Digital humbly notes that it is simply looking to build trust with consumers as they use its products to store and share their memories. But it's also building what could be a dark horse rival to the Apple and Microsoft approach to processing and managing personal content -- content that's the key part of consumers' digital lifestyles. Upending their value would be a flip indeed.
(Ed. note: Want more on the FlipShareTV? Check out our full review!)
Ross Rubin is executive director of industry analysis for consumer technology at market research and analysis firm The NPD Group. Views expressed in Switched On are his own.





















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@questionexclamation dang beat me :p
First to comment wow ...anyways... how is the quality on these flip cams and how is the quality on the Nanos ive never actually seen eithers video.
@Amnak
Fail
fabulous image.
@SaintAndrew
only mega-geeks relate anything that contains "strikes back" with lightsabers/Star Wars. Haha!
@iroq d mullet
I hope you die painfully, BY THE POWER OF THE DARK SIDE! AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SaintAndrew
Agreed
Kodak Zi8 > Flip Ultra HD
Cool
Just commenting about the comment system again. What happened to all the replies? All I see are the parent comments and then the Next 50 comments link.
Oh yea...Don't reply to me because I won't be able to see it.
@Vman and now no one can see you
What the hell voted out of existence... any ways how good is the quality of the flip and nano?
@Amnak The Flip Mino HD, the only one I've got experience with produces perfectly good 720p video, even in low light conditions. The things to understand about it are it has NO ZOOM and it has NO IMAGE STABILIZATION. So if you need to zoom in on your kid playing soccer, or its just too shaky where you are (in a car bouncing along a dirt road say), it ain't going to do the job. If you play the video it takes on a large HDTV it will look fine.
The Nano isn't competitive with that. Its 640x480 4:3 rather than the 1280x720 the Mino HD shoots, and its significantly lower quality. But if you're carrying the Nano and you don't have the Mino HD with you... Or you have a Nano and not a Mino, then you might find it adequate.
Both are obviously fine for producing Youtube video for the internets. Both could use some work for shooting a wedding or your kid's game.
@Fanfoot Errrr my Flip Mino has zoom. You just use the + and - buttons
How is Apple even a contender in the micro camcorder arena?
For those interested, the big two players right now are the Kodak Zi8 and the Vado HD.
@Ducman69
Is it the Darth Vado?
@Ducman69 That's what I'd like to know.
@KirinIchiban hehe Darth vado
@Ducman69 Its not really. The Mino HD is better. But if you're buying an iPod Nano anyway, and it comes with a video recorder, are you really going to go out and buy a Mino? For another $200+? Similarly once all cell phones come with adequate "carried with you" video cameras, will you still buy a Mino? That's the sense in which it competes. Since the Mino isn't a full capability video camera, maybe it'll just vanish after a while.
@Fanfoot I can't personally recommend the Mino over the big wide angle Creative VadoHD (can be had for $80) or new 1080p external mic jack Kodak Zi8 (which is on sale for $126 now). In what ways did you find it better? And while the iPod Nano isn't horrible, its not up to par with dedicated micro-camcorders IMO, and while you could argue its good enough for most, so too is the camera already integrated into most people's cellphones if you're willing to lower the bar.
Here's a vid of the VadoHD and Zi8 side-by-side. I'll have to upload a camparo w/ the Mino and on the Zi8's new firmware which addressed my image shake complaint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX_lPBb06-o =)
@KirinIchiban I see what you did there..
NO EXTERNAL MIC JACK!
@qman YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY ENTIRELY MISSED THE POINT OF THESE DEVICES!!!!
@PaulY LOUD NOISES!!!
PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!
@Ross,
Not convinced. Sure I know they want to build an ecosystem. And they're trying in a limited way to build one. But do you really think they're succeeding? Have you used FlipShare? Have you looked at the Engadget review of the FlipShareTV? Neither is particularly brilliant. Sure you can use FlipShare to post stuff to YouTube. But as Apple moves towards posting clips directly to YouTube from your iPhone/Touch, do you really feel like Flip is competitive with that? Do you actually think they're going to sell ANY of these stupid FlipShareTV things?
C'mon get real. Sure maybe over time something might evolve, but so far I don't see it. I can't imagine Apple is sweating this company at all.
aw shittt, clever cisco, clever.
I don't think it's a secret that one of the reasons that Nano sold more than the Flip is because, well it's a nano to begin with, very popular. And people would buy it anyway even if it didn't have a camera on it.
However, they may find it pretty cool to have that feature.
So it would be pointless to have an iPod that records video, and ALSO carry around another video camera
I think DSLR's with video features are going to be the future of indie and experimental film
Cell phones are far from being a contender in this area due to battery power. Just look at the iPhone, it can barely sustain itself as a phone. Give us some better batteries before giving us a crappy video camera.
Where is the switch to turn my flip into a light saber?
I actually won one of these two days ago, tried it, and it's ok for the average home user.
I prefer using a real camcorder. Like my Canon XHA1. Go big or go home.
Here's a sample:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuyDsNsK7sk
@uShak
Um those days are also over, try a Canon D5 for amazing video!
"FlipShare , which is clearly designed to be the equivalent of iTunes for video. "
In what way is FlipShare CLEARLY DESIGNED to be the equivalent of iTunes for video? Beyond the ability to sync media, there is no equivalent. But I'm interested in learning.