Apple retaliates: requests US import ban on Nokia phones
By Thomas Ricker 
posted January 16th 2010 7:02AM
posted January 16th 2010 7:02AM
posted January 16th 2010 7:02AM
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@gentlefury
While I don't like the patent system either, those who created the modern cellphone, companies like Nokia, Motorola and Ericsson have poured tens if not hundreds of billions of money in to these things. Nokia spent 7.2 billion dollars on research during 2008 alone. It isn't really fair that others can take the benefit without paying.
@gentlefury Quite honestly people that have a severe lack of understanding of why patents exist are bullshit. How about if you take a business class one of these days?
Lol, bye bye Goona, please don't come back.
There's a slap for that.
Ebay..
The dumbest smartphone OS ever can't multitask... hint hint.
Besides, S60 3rd edition is the way that all non-touch phones should work. Not everyone wants or needs a touchscreen phone.
@archkron
Oh shitfuck... time to blame the comment system again.
@archkron Only severe ignorants still believe in the 'no multitask' myth. That was disproven very long ago.
@Paul C Chapel
Well, enjoy having to void your warranty to make your phone useful.
Oh wait, you can have the music application and safari open at once. MULTITASKING!!1!11!
@archkron There you have it good sir.
It's not that the iPhone OS is incapable of multitasking, which is not true. Multitasking is simply disabled for 3rd part apps. Now that you disproved your own statement give yourself a loly pop and pat yourself on the back. Good boy!
@Paul C Chapel
If thats your definition of multitasking, then my 20 year old pocket calculator could multitask.
It could keep the time of day and add 2+2 together.
Never knew it was a multitasking pocket computer.
@Paul C Chapel
And yet you yourself claim in this thread that Apple is an opn company that wil not block other companies from using their systems... Now can YOU explain how Apple is being 100% open by limiting the capabilities and usefulness of other companies software by deliberately and openly shutting down multitasking for all software except their own?
And to be honest, whether it is a hardware flaw, an OS flaw, or a deliberate move by the parent company, when you cut away the BS you have a simple situation... for all intents and purposes the iPhone will not multitask... which is the same end result to the end user as it can not multitask.
Is there any way you can embarrass yourself any more than you already have?
@boybunny
It won't multitask... except when it does? Come on, don't be stupid about this. The phone app runs in the background and so does the ipod app, and safari, and mail, and then there's the notification system. That covers most bases for most users.
Phones that have full multitasking capability continuously run into the processor and memory limitations of the phone by leaving apps open. Apple knew that would happen, which is why they did it this way. As mobile hardware gets better, you can expect to see multitasking become available that doesn't slow your phone down to a crawl. What a concept, huh? A usable phone?
@Jack, do a favor to us and buy yourself a Nokia E72, see what kind of battery drainage is the multitasking we're talking here (or at least check some info around) and stop being "I know everything, you tards!"dandy.
What the fuck is Apple's problem? Are they THAT threatened?!
@Lucas The question you need to ask is what is the matter with Nokia for lanching frivolous law suits in the first place.
@Paul C Chapel
>frivolous
@archkron Right you are sir. I just woke up :)
ok time for breakfast now.
@Lucas
Here's the question you should have asked:
"What the fuck is Nokia's problem? Are they THAT threatened?!"
Nokia sued first, and they also requested a ban on Apple devices first. It makes no sense to blame Apple for any of this, since Nokia started all of it.
@Lucas Apple should be threatened because most of their revenue comes from the US.
Im quite amused at the parade of Apple-haters 'tards here decrying Apple for whatever today's self-imagined reason is that they have to bash Apple. These people and their kind have a horrible tendency to always fall on the wrong side of history.
Nevermind the details, the outcome here will end up with Nokia walking away with its tail bewteen its legs, and that's all that matters.
@Paul C Chapel
I wrote a response, but then I realised that I was replying to Paul Chapel. Lol.
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Soon they wont have patents anymore to rub at each others face...
I just feel bad for the judge that will need to read countless pages of technical material...
I can even picture a grandpa asking his grandson:
"An apple I know what it is.. but what is a nokia?"
Why does the Apple logo have an overbite?
@nos879 Because they bite patents from other companies without paying royalties, a deadbeat I must say.
@nos879
Because obviously someone here on Engadget loves 'em like a cousin.
A redneck cousin, that is.
@nos879
Because someone here on Engadget loves 'em like a cousin.
A redneck cousin, that is.
Can someone please buy Apple and close their damn company down? I say a dozen companies pool their money. Microsoft, Sony, Nokia, etc and shut them down. Fuck Apple.
@John Doe
Why? Because Apple is successful and you're not? I can't think of any other reason for your badly conceived rant.
@John Doe
You must really love capitalism and competition, I see. Apple may not be perfect, but every single one of the companies you've named has actively tried to retrain and destroy choices in the public square.
It could always be worse, folks. Nokia could hire Bob Nardelli as their new CEO.
@revoltracers
No... now we'll all buy our Apple and Nokia phones from some shady guy in a hoodie in some dark alley.
Does the name "Louis Psihoyos" rings a bell? (yes, go ahead and google it)... this guy has been dealing with apple and the 1000's TV's picture since 2005 for photo copyright and Apple hasnt paid anything yet...
SO We know Apple is a f.... Deadbeat...
Haaaa, I think Apple is rising a bit above its station in this case. No way in hell will the government prevent the worlds biggest mobile phone maker from operating in the US (during a recession). LOL
On the Nokia side patents claims about networks access, wireless data, speech coding, security, and encryption.
On the Apple side "patents" claims about scrolling list, document scaling and rotation.
Hmm, on one side possibly technologically serious patents and on the other what looks like frivolous UI and software -considered as mostly ludicrous outside the US- "patents".
Ban both!
Its like the cold war
Hmmm, While I don't claim that Nokia are the dog's bits, there are points worth considering. The Nokia share in the US is largely due historically to Motorola. Their phones are almost always way behind the times, and definitely behind Nokia before, and now. Now iPhone is here, the 2 US phone companies have the market cornered.
I really wonder how many iPhone users consider the luxury of universal bluetooth connectivity worth sacrificing after many generations of Nokia have had this standard. I also wonder how Apple thought video calls (ie cameras on both sides) were not something people do. Oh yeah, until the 3Gs they didn't even have video capability.
Laugh it up ifanbois, laugh it up...
@blasto
A lot of this sounds like petulant grumbling to me as well. I'm a Mac person and love many of the products Apple has put out lo these couple decades and change. That being said, it's hard to find any online discussion forum where people aren't bitching no matter what Apple does (or doesn't) do.
The iPhone represents a specific feature set which its dedicated userbase (message forums notwithstanding) seems to like. Evidently, those things Apple doesn't put on their devices are things the majority of their users probably don't care about anyhow. Now whether anyone wants to put that down to product satisfaction or technological ignorance or Steve Jobs' legendary "reality distortion field" the fact still remains that the iPhone platform remains very popular and highly sought-after, both by customers and other platform developers alike.
I don't have an iPhone myself, but that has traditionally had more to do with Apple's choice of carrier than anything. I also like the freedom that other smartphone platforms offer. However, this is really off-topic as it is.
Regarding Nokia -- and their perceived relevance today -- that has a lot to do with the public's perception vs. Nokia's actual priorities. Don't let's forget their Maemo (sp?) offerings, as well as their battery life across their product range.
This whole thing (the lawsuit) does seem kind of childish in a way to me. I guess we'll all have to see what comes of it.
apple finally gets whats fucking coming to them
Apple has no chance in baning all Nokia imports, companies can't control imports, besides everyone in the US will just buy Nokia's on Ebay...
I would love to see Nokia win this. So badly. Apple is such a piece of crap money hungry, power, control issue of a company.
I have an iphone 3gs. Wife has a Nokia N95 8gb.
We're on the same network.
She can make calls when I have no coverage.
Her camera is better. Her battery lasts longer. My phone looks nicer.
Facts.
@ajwoodhouse oh - and she has free turn by turn navigation.