New York Times to begin charging for access... something something, Apple Tablet
By Paul Miller 
posted January 17th 2010 4:10PM
posted January 17th 2010 4:10PM
posted January 17th 2010 4:10PM
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@d0mth0ma5 My comments are pure gold.
@HighestRanked I think you'll find that's Pyrite.
Lulz at the Family Guy reference.
@formetopoopon Yep, should I buy an Apple product and turn to the dark side? Well, they do have a better gym :)
@r3loaded I concur, actually one of the seemingly vague yet visibly true strategy of Apple is to settle rumors/hype/excitement to people months before the real release of their gadget. Apple's strat's theme is "Curiosity never killed the cat, it made the cat buy their product" On the 27-28th of January. Expect technews garnering around the Apple Tablet (curiosity wins again to say the least)
it seems apple is very protective of their mythological tablet that they left people with such a little info about it. It could also be that Apple is doing this to start their early marketing tactics against their competition. Way to go for NYpost *sarcastic* (just in case this rumor mill is true) More iSlate Myth and Facts: http://bit.ly/apple-tablet-details-compiled
@lisacowells well, duh. Everybody knows Apple are behind most of the leaks. Much of it is used for product direction - you can't invent something in solitary confinement and expect it to fit seamlessly in to the lives of people you don't know.
@KarlW
Oh yes, everybody knows that. Apple is so well known for leaking information about their products. That's why they have the reputation of keeping everything sealed up tighter than any other hardware manufacturer on the planet.
Because they leak their information.
You gotta love the logic of the Apple haters.
@KarlW
"Everybody knows Apple are behind most of the leaks."
prove it.
@Jack
Apple is using reverse logic redundancy. They're not leaking information to make people think they are leaking information which in turn makes people think they aren't leaking information and it folds over into infinity.
Who cares? There are more and more Apple tablet Google hits by the day. Even on Bing the Apple tablet has about 10X the amount of references/searches than the Microsoft Courier. For a product that doesn't actually exist the Apple tablet is doing fairly well. It's like the BigFoot or Sasquatch of mobile devices.
@Paul C Chapel
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/06/former-apple-marketing-insider-sheds-light-on-apples-controlled-leaks/
Oh no! Apple use controlled leaks to try and judge product demand! What a shocker! It's not like every corporation on the planet is doing the same thing...
Apple technology, making free information, well, not-free anymore.
@Jack
I'm confused...where did he say he hates Apple?
@formetopoopon I'm seeing South Park. Underpants Gnomes to be exact, at least if they expect to make a "Profit".
Yawn... The New York Times. At one time the standard of journalistic integrity. Now, perfect fodder for bird cages worldwide.
They no longer have journalistic integrity? Who is the standard now, because it certainly isn't some news blog
@EGOvoruhk Whenever somebody questions the journalistic integrity of the Times, there's usually only one outlet they look to instead: Fox News.
Anyway, it is kind of sad to see all of these real news sources committing suicide like this.
@TheLoveDr The future belongs to both low quality journalism, i.e. blogs that merely report news and whose commentary is generally an exercise in fine grasping of the obvious, and high quality journalism, i.e. true investigative reporting that requires talent in deep analysis and storytelling.
@TheLoveDr
There are plenty of non-morons who feel the New York Times lacks integrity. Check out "Manufacturing Consent" for a sample.
I'm not aware of quality conservative journalism, but otherwise check out Mother Jones, the Nation, Democracy Now!, etc. for integrity.
@EGOvoruhk
I'm not sure who I would say has integrity any more. Too often what is actually OpEd is passed off as reporting. And to those feeble minded individuals assuming I am a FoxNews clone, try again. IMO both sides are just as guilty of hijacking their respective outlets.
@(Unverified)
Good one - instantly stereotype anyone who disagrees with you.
@(Unverified)
That is the same type of thing liberals say to people who disagree with BO's policies, "oh you just don't like black people".
NYT is not a bastion of integrity there is no doubt, they have revealed themselves so many times. Just recently the entire news media gave Harry Reid a pass on his "negro" remark. Thats aok says Jeff Zeleny from the NYT. Of course if Mitch Mcconnell said the word "negro" they would have barbecued him.
@TheLoveDr I agree about "news" pieces turning into OpEd all over the place. As far as the New York Times goes, yeah, it has lowered in quality a bit...
@sonicyoof I think by its very nature Conservatism and quality journalism don't go together. Conservatism is all about hanging and trying to impose an idealized view of history. Journalist who expose the less then perfect reality a threat to them.
@alex98 Actually, it is not. Conservatism has long been the champion of limited government and liberties, such as freedom of the press. Perhaps you are thinking of neoconservatism?
Anyway, within the context of your statement, I would still have to disagree. Global warming, fairness doctrine, racism cards, etc... all are attempts to force away discussion on the issue and "force" a particular viewpoint as you're saying.
@TheLoveDr
I'm amused about this.
Instead of nerd-vana, the iTablet, NYTs and Espresso con Panna and it's libera-vana at Starbucks.
Of course, if it results in higher data rates/hotspot fees,exploding batteries, more reading while driving in traffic, more wasted time at Starbucks, and a fragile screen (when you spill that drink), then I'm sure there wll be an NYT [paid] article: "iTablet, it's not Apple's fault, nor NYT's fault, it's us."
@paul34 Why are conservatives so threatened by global warming ?
As someone with a science background whose actually has first hand experience in documenting its effects in Alaska and Antarctica where I surveyed glaciers and took ice cores. I am always amused by how important it is for you guys to question the validity of global warming ?
I make my living working for the oil industry now, but it still that hasn't changed my views about the fact that global warming is happening.
@sonicyoof Well, integrity to their ideology, maybe, but not to news gathering.
@alex98
You must not be a very good scientist then.
Global temperatures are down. For over a decade now. And there is more to come. The fact is GW models have failed. The estimates used by the IPCC have been off by factors of 300% or more. And now, as we look to be sliding into a 20-30 year cooling phase, those projections are going to be even worse.
The reality is that NOBODY has any clue what is going on. And more importantly, there isn't a single idea out there that is guaranteed to to provide for the optimal climate. It is all guess work and theory. And based off the horrid track record so far, I'm not prepared to buy into anyone's solution just yet.
I get worked up because I don't want to pay more for goods. I don't want to have higher taxes. I don't want dollars to that could be going into something beneficial being wasted on voodoo science. Cap and trade, carbon credits, etc are just schemes that will do so much more harm than they will do good.
@TheLoveDr
Considering the NYT has been laying people off as merely foreground details of a saga of irrelevance, lower readership and bankruptcy that's rife throughout the print and media industries, I would tend to concur that this will simply be one more botched effort on their part.
Vis a vis news and information and credibility, the problem, folks, is that we haven't had true journalism in this country in going on probably 20-30 years. I can't believe you folks here want to complain about the credibility of blogs and other news sites (and also the FOX network) given the demonstrable lack of credibility in the New York Times, Washington Times, NBC and CBS news, and on and on. It's all bought-and-paid-for pseudo news. The whole thing's a joke, really.
There are no more journalists and reporters. There are only media darlings posing as journalists.
So, regarding credibility and integrity and all that, good luck.
Speaking of lacking credibility being pretty common in the news media, here's a link to an article on MSNBC's Ed Shultz showing just what kind of integrity can be found there:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/01/16/ed-schultz-if-i-lived-massachusetts-i-d-vote-10-times-id-cheat-keep-t
So please, don't anyone here try to hand me anything about the news media being impartial and credible (or, frankly, even intelligent) when it comes to dealing with current events.
here we go again, apple tablet this and apple tablet that. i wonder how much money they are paying you to hype their unannounced products
@(Unverified) Too Much obviously :D
@(Unverified)
I bet nothing at all.
Apple generates free hype from fanboys.
@(Unverified) Everyone is saying: "Apple this and Apple that," but no one is saying "Worship this and Jericho that!"
@Oli D So you are calling Engadget fanboys? Hehe
@(Unverified)
This has to be the most annoying tech rumor of all time. There has been no confirmation of this rumor whatsoever, and Engadget still wont shut up about it. Please Engadget, just wait 10 days before you post anymore about this (if its even announced). We know your excited but please just keep it to yourself.
@(Unverified)
Apple fanboyism has reached critical mass. Until now it required at least some input from Apple to keep going, but now it has become an unstable self-perpetuating reaction and nobody knows how it will all end.
@Unverified User
some input from Apple? Since when? lol
So since you now consider Engadget as fanboys --after all, they are the ones posting this rumor-- and you seem to hate Apple, why are you still here?
Anyway, I encourage you to keep clicking on this post. The more you click the more traffic you genereate for this page so the more relevant you make it. This will encourage Engadget to post more info like this.
@(Unverified)
Over 9000 dollars maybe?
@Oli D
Yea its so easy, all you have to do is reinvent the personal computer, reinvent the MP3 player, reinvent the phone, reinvent digital distribution... etc etc etc, amazingly, "lunatic fanboys" will expect you to do amazing things every time you hold a press conference.
@Helvetica Great Simpson line!
Gabbo is Fabo, Krusty is Rusty.
That... sounds like a stretch to me.
Why would I pay for news online?
@The Shadow I've got to agree, i'm not that bothered by editorials and as long as there are services like BBC News Online (and the fact that everyone posts related stories within an hour of one "breaking" on another source). If you really LOVE Paul Krugman then you might subscribe to his articles (maybe for $1 a month) but why would you pay for news that will be free otherwise. Even if all major news outlets decide to charge a subscription, as long as some people subscribe and then repost the news it will be available for free, this is Web 2.0 after all.
@The Shadow
People still read magazines....
@Michael Scrip I would happily pay for Stuff (UK), FHM (UK), The Economist and New Scientist as long as the format was virtually identical to the offline version (or was downloadable version of it).
@d0mth0ma5
Stuff FTW!
@d0mth0ma5
Me too. I occasionally pick up a copy of Videography Magazine. But, they also have a digital version that is formatted exactly like the paper version.
It doesn't exactly fit the same on a computer monitor, though. It would be great to view one page at a time on a full-color portrait tablet-like device.
I would subscribe to quite a few digital versions of magazines if I didn't have to deal with all that paper piling up in the bathroom. :)
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/newbay/vdy_200912/#/4
@Esat Dedezade
T3, Stuff (UK), FTW
@The Shadow
I actually look forward to paying for stuff again. Both to encourage better content by contributing revenue and paying salaries and by having the capability to punish by ending my subscription. I never really got into the "all content should be free" thing in the '00s. Seemed like an ultimately self-destructive, negative thing.
I stopped paying for the news because I didn't like all the paper. Not because I didn't think good journalism didn't deserve to be payed for. I would argue that the decline in quality journalism is a direct result of 'free news' and not some intrinsic entropy inherent in the journalism industry.
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