Palm crafting GSM versions of the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus?
By Chris Ziegler 
posted January 23rd 2010 10:11AM
posted January 23rd 2010 10:11AM
posted January 23rd 2010 10:11AM
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Palm is seemingly competing with Apple but they need to be competing with blackberry. Take the corporate market palm, just improve your messaging and email, work out kinds with notifications, and keep hammering on battery life.
Palm made a poor carrier choice launching this thing on Sprint first. Palm could have doubled their sales EASILY had this gone to Verizon or AT&T first. I like the idea of two sluggish companies helping one another out, but it seems like at this point in the game even the Palm Pre couldn't bring people to Sprint.
Wow. How weak it still can't talk surf n gps at same time.
Something iPhone users have been doing since 062907.
It must suck to be in stone age with overhyped pre.
@logic thinker
How do you like talking while pulling down data on EDGE? ATT==fail....
@Peteman100
My AT&T 3g works just fine on my 3gs. Done a speedtest last night 2.5 Mbps. Your carrier do that?
This will fail in America. Yeah u can pop a sim chip in it.
But what American will seriously drop $500-600 on this?
When u can get iPhone as low as $49
not sure about y'all but we Americans look at the bottom dollar amount needed to leave the store with a phone. Disagree?
Then how do u explain iPhone extreme historic record breaking smartphone sales. Exactly. I'm glad I was able to enlighten u.
@logic thinker
Well if your talking about low price and sales, then Nokia knocks it out of the park, Apple dont even come close. But certainly the iphone does great smartphone numbers considering the price of ownership is high.
As for Palm, i would happily pay £150 for the Pixie and £300 for the Pre on payg. Many have mentioned that they should do this bring some capital in, as in Europe the Pre is barely selling due to the high price. I think Ireland has sold like 22 units to date. lol
Allow me to translate for those of you who couldn't understand his "words":
iPhone iPhone iPhone IPHONE iPhone iPhone iPhone everythingbutiPhonesucks iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone
Pre is not original. Just anothet failed iphone clone
starting from itunes
@logic thinker I can understand people hating blackberries or being frustrated with windows mobile at times, but why hate on palm? This is a company of 939 employees compared with Apples 34,000. I think palm has managed an incredible turn around. Not only that, but they are fostering support in the open source community and allowing consumers to do more with their phones instead of creating a walled garden. I own an iphone 3GS, and I'm incredibly frustrated with many of it's problems. I can't download things from the internet, wtf? I can't run more than one third party app at a time on a device with 256mb of ram and a 600 megahertz processor. Iphone 3G's can't record video, why? My nokia 5800 could record video just fine and had very similar specifications. Since apple has such incredible money and resources at it's disposal the iphone should be able to do all these things, but if they kept adding them to old devices people wouldn't upgrade apparently. Meanwhile companies like palm who nearly went bankrupt trying to stage a renaissance and make a worthwhile product have to constantly take insults from apple fans who feel threatened that a phone could even begin to be close to Apple's untouchable brilliance. The fact is that I don't hate Apple, but I'm certainly starting to hate their most vocal supporters. Especially considering much of the reason Apple managed their own comeback (remember, like 10-15 years ago when they nearly went out of business?) was because people were willing to take a chance on them again to escape Microsoft. How time changes circumstance, now I feel like Microsoft is giving me more compelling reasons to use their OS and palm is giving me more compelling reasons to choose their pdas. Anyways... troll on.
@nickyP Are you certain you have a 3gs?? Mine does video just fine, or is it user error?? I've shot videos with my 3gs on many different occasions and they have come out perfectly every time. I download from the internet all the time without any problems, maybe it's your phone. You should probably have it checked out by an Apple tech person.
Just because you have the money to buy a phone, doesn't mean you have the intelligence to use it. Don't rag on the 3GS because it is a fantastic phone.
@Pappy He said 3G's, not 3GS's (or 3GS')
@Pappy I understand you just misread me, but on the same line of thought.
1)What browsers do you use on your 3GS, just safari? Why not mobile firefox or opera?
2)You may download apps and watch a youtube video.. how about surfing to a website and downloading a zip file? I didn't think so.
3)Do you open up attachments on your email and edit them? nope...
4)Run multiple tasks at the same time without hacking your phone?
Apple is going to focus on selling you music and magazine for the next two years, palm is going to let you get work done.
@Pappy
Being able to use a device is not necessarily an issue of intelligence. It is sometimes a result of poor documentation or bad implementation by the company. Just thought you should know!
@nickyP
1. iCab Mobile browser let's you download and unzip files as well as file share them. There are also free apps you can download to handle this.
2. Editing attachments? Of course, that depends on the attatchment, such as photo or text doc.
3. Multitasking is available. Just not the same full multitasking people are accustomed to with their home computer OS, such as work spaces in Linux. I can listen to various formats of radio streams including streaming WMAs, while surfing the net. Of course, this requires a third party app such as Pocket Tunes. Though, jailbricking my phone isn't needed.
I am not saying that the iPhone is perfect. I take offense to such over generalizations.
The Palm Pre with Web OS is an amazing phone by the way. If it would have been on any other carrier than Sprint when it came out, I might have considered it, though I am convinced that Verizon would have mandated that it have a red UI, and use a Verizon music and app download service, with no way for users to get their photos off the phone.
It's the Palm Pre Plus for France :)
http://www.palmpre-france.com/Le-Palm-Pre-Plus-a-149-chez-SFR_a213.html
@ganou66 No it isn't. European units will carry the UEU designation, not UNA.
I hate to break it to everyone, but this sticker is from the Technische Überwachungs Verein in Germany. They're most like the UL or FCC in the US. Not to say that AT&T won't get the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus, but this is definitely for a German carrier. Much like HTC sends many devices to Europe that the US only sees on CDMA, this isn't much in the way of good news for the colonies.
@JustintheMiracle Actually, if they get it certified in Germany they can sell it in ALL OF EUROPE :)
They just need it certified by one competent European agency for it to be accepted across the whole of Europe. The Germans are known for good quality, and it makes sense to begin there. That does not mean the phone will be sold in Germany alone or first.
@(Unverified) You know, I believe you on that. Since I'm stuck in the US and don't really want to buy contract-free in the EU (high cost + exchange rate, not to mention being unemployed) I was thinking a little more about it being certified in the US. I'd *love* to see the Pre and Pixi come to the US on a GSM provider, and it looks like T-Mobile US is leaning more and more toward android for smartphones (good on them, BTW).
I think AT&T COULD be bringing the Pre (or Pre Plus) and Pixi (or Pixi Plus) on, given that they said they were going to be adding two WebOS devices at CES. I'm just a little jaded given how long it took them to finally admit they were going to bring some android phones on. (HTC Lancaster, anyone?)
I want to believe.
Why not doing GSM from start? Then you have a global market instead of a part of the USA market.
@TMOKOTOR
good question, it could only be good.
still i think i should wait for the pre++
i love the pre+ dont get me wrong,
but to me it looks like a placeholder like the iphone 3g
webos is almost ready for the big takeover, just some little
software improovements,
like, now tat we have 50 open cards, we need a better way to manage them..
@SParklingCYaNide
The N1 is Neonode N1, actually the first touchscreen cellphone ever appeared on the market. (years ago) dont mix that with the nexus^^one
Haha! It said "EWW" regarding the CDMA versions XD
I cant believe they don't just use broadcom chips that support all of the wireless standards; as if they cost that much more than the GSM or CDMA only communication IC's. All of this "only for verizon" "only for ATT" crap is non-sense. Thank you Google for recognizing this with your plan to sell devices a-la-cart where consumers will one day be able to pick and choose a device, then a carrier, then a plan; without having to nerd sacrifice and move around from one carrier to the next in order to keep up on the cell hardware game. Can you imagine for a second if ATT, Verizon, T-Mobil and Sprint were legally obligate to share their networks..... then all of these silly map commercials would be a useless (although they are funny).
@cosmicinglewood
The only thing Google did wrong was exactly what it sounds like you're hoping they're going to do right: make a single model that will work across all networks. Even the Nexus One, while capable of operating on AT&T's network, isn't equipped for 3G on anything but T-Mobile.
Based on the engadget interview with the head of the android team, it sounds like they're going to have 2-4 versions of a device, which all operate the same, but have different radios in them for the network you choose.
Can't wait for LTE to become standard for EVERYBODY.
Palm Pre Plus (if announced) or the 4G iPhone (if announced) is the decision now. Leaning towards Plam, those cards are tempting.
@derekdevine 4G iPhone simply can't be announced this summer, it's too early. Maybe next.
@derekdevine Interesting how you managed to spell Palm correctly first, then misspell it few words down.
Getting excited for the Pre, eh?
@JONNNathannn what? theres a new iphone every summer so i think thats a pretty accurate time frame for release
@ToniCipriani I'm extremely excited for the Pre Plus but I'm on AT&T, so I have been dreaming. Thanks for catching my error, I must've got side-tracked in writing my comment the more I thought about the "cards."
AT&T said their webOS phones would be exclusive, did they not?
@perceptrons No, then we wouldn't have to play this silly guessing game.
They simply said 2 devices, I believe.
@perceptrons
ProbAbly means a mild difference..
Dind't they say Palm Pre plus and Pixie Plus will be only for Verizon? Or is this just same phones with slight differences? Palm needs to make their minds.
@hcho3
that's what im thinking! now I won't feel as special when I pick up the Pre Plus this monday ...
palm is lazy so these will probably be at&t's offerings
@iName Not so much lazy as they are short on cash. Besides it's not like the iPhone or any of the blackberry models receive major cosmetic changes year after year. It's usually just spec bumps, and changes to the OS.
@XChrisX
amen. iphone 3g ............iphone 3gs. I don't remember a lotta people calling Apple fat and lazy then. and neither should we do so to Palm. Sure they're due for a hardware update soon, but 2 brand new phones and 2 upgrade phones in 8 months is better than anyone expected from a dying company.
I just want to be able to run 50 apps at once, on AT&T's network already, hurry up Palm!
Do the math...
Apple > Palm
Google > Palm
RIM > Palm
Wake up Palm people. Palm is the pits. It is going out of business tomorrow! This is a company that adds wifi to a phone two months after its initial introduction and then claims that it has made a significant leap in phone technology. Hahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@blinky You wake up, your comment will be down ranked into oblivion by tomorrow!
@blinky Show me where they said that was a significant leap. Oh no, they didn't because you're just pulling stuff out of your f**king ass.
@blinky And let me guess... you were amongst one of those who were trying to short Palm stock?
what happened to the Pluses are exclusive to Verizon? pretty short marriage if you ask me
About fucking time.