Apple posts $3.38b Q1 profit: iPhone sales double, Macs up 33 percent, iPods down eight

Apple just turned in its Q1 financials, revealing that iPhone sales have doubled in the past quarter compared to last year, Mac sales are up 33 percent, and iPod sales continue to decline with an eight percent dip from a year ago. The company brought in revenues of $15.68 billion, good for $3.38 billion in profit, or $3.67 profit per share. That's up from last quarter's profit of $2.26 billion on $11.88 billion in revenue, and in fact, it's Apple's all-time highest revenue and profits. Steve sounds pretty pleased in the PR, and hints at far more to come: "The new products we are planning to release this year are very strong, starting this week with a major new product that we're really excited about." We're sure to find out more later on the analyst conference call, so stay tuned.

Update: We're jumping on the call now, we'll update the good parts in semi-liveblog style after the break, since we're sure the real action will come on Wednesday. Let's go.

5:03PM We're still waiting to start -- and we're testing something. Did it work?

5:06PM Okay, we're on. CFO Peter Oppenheimer and COO Tim Cook are on the line. Peter's is recapping the quarter: "We're shipping our best products ever and customers love them." Talking about the switch away from subscription accounting.

5:08PM Laptop sales were up 18 percent, people like the new MacBook. People also like the new iMac, especially education -- edu sales went up 61 percent.

5:09PM They expected general sales of iPods to go down, but sales of the iPod touch went up 55 percent.

5:11PM Sold 8.75 million iPhones in the quarter, with 17 new carriers added. iPhones now sold in 86 countries. Sales up in Japan, Australia, UK, France, and Germany.

5:12PM Surprise, Apple retail stores are also doing well. Half the 8.9 million Macs sold were to people who'd never owned a Mac before. 283 stores open in 10 countries.

5:14PM In sum: The Apple Stores are not just a party in the USA. They are also a party in other countries.

5:14PM Apple's main priority with its huge cash reserve is primarily "preservation of capital," which means they're mostly trying to hold on to it.

5:17PM Talking about how the FAASB changed the rules and now they don't have to use subscription accounting. That means the numbers reported today are slightly higher than they were in the past -- if we're understanding this correctly, the true comparison with last quarter would be with the non-GAAP number they reported. Accountants everywhere are going crazy, there are riots in the street, etc.

5:18PM Apple estimates that they'll deliver $25 in upgrades to the iPhone over the life of the product and $10 in upgrades to the Apple TV. That's just for accounting purposes, obviously. The true value they deliver can't be measured with human money... or emotions.

5:19PM Peter sounds absolutely giddy about the new accounting rules. As giddy as any straight-laced MBA who is basically reading numbers can sound, anyway.

5:20PM Apple's targeting about $2 per share earnings for next quarter -- they're usually pretty conservative, though.

5:20PM Question time!

5:22PM Any reason to think the Mac growth rate won't continue? Tim: Macs are growing at about two times the market rate, so we don't really want to predict. Also, we don't predict anything. But Italy, France, Switzerland and Spain grew at 40 percent, Australia grew at 70 percent, China even higher. We'll see how we do.

5:24PM AT&T's getting a lot of bad press here, why stick with a single carrier? Tim: AT&T is a great partner, it's important to remember that they have more mobile broadband usage than any other carrier in the world. In the vast majority of places, iPhone customers are getting a great experience. AT&T has acknowledged problems, we've personally reviewed their plans to fix it and we're confident it'll be handled.

5:26PM Can you address gross margin for the current quarter and next quarter? Peter: This is super boring, who wants to talk about our awesome tablet? Okay, that's not what he's saying at all. He's mostly talking about very dry accounting changes, which were very complex. Pete's proud of his guys in the green hats, basically.

5:26PM Margins were up because commodity pricing was down, warranty numbers were down, and Apple used all that cash to secure better pricing.

5:28PM Does your guidance for next quarter include any unannounced products? Tim: Nice try, but stay tuned for Wednesday.

5:30PM They're expecting a decline in Mac sales next quarter, which is usual, and they're possibly a bigger decline in traditional iPod sales. Also expecting a seasonal decline in iPhone sales.

5:31PM Do you see anything that would change how you generate "free cash flow?" Peter: We're really good at making cash, and I don't see that changing.

5:33PM Can you talk about the iPhone in China, did it meet expectations? Tim: We don't disclose units by country, but I'll make an exception for China. Earlier this month we activated over 200,000 units in China. There are 1500 points of sale for the iPhone in China, we're very focused on the quality of point of sale, we're moving slow because we're focused on the building the brand there.

5:34PM Can you comment on your comfort level with iPhone inventory? Tim: iPhone channel inventory grew by 230,000 units over the quarter. We're comfortable with it, we could have sold more iPhones but we decided not to because we manage inventory very tightly.

5:36PM Can you talk about the Nokia lawsuit, and can you confirm that there's no risk to Apple from litigation? Tim: We don't talk about pending litigation. (Implied: Shame on you.)

5:36PM How do we reconcile the notion that gross margins are going down given your product mix? Peter: Here are a lot of words that add up to "no comment."

5:39PM App approval process has gotten lots of criticism -- is the problem the model itself? Have you received any feedback from iPhone owners? Tim: Important to keep this in perspective. We have 100k apps in the store, over 90 percent approved in 14 days. We created the process to protect consumers and kids, and protect the experience of using the phone. Most of the rejections are bugs in the code itself, and this protects the customer and the developers. The noise on this may be much higher than the reality.

5:39PM Tim says he hasn't gotten any feedback from iPhone owners, and Apple hasn't seen it in the research.

5:40PM How do you feel about new product opportunities ahead? Anything coming up that's as big as the iPhone and the Mac, or is that setting expectations too high? Tim: I don't want to take away your joy and surprise on Wednesday, so let's save that. (That's a direct quote, by the way. He said "joy and surprise.")

5:42PM Is it appropriate to roll out iPhone in the same way across the world, specifically a place like China where incomes are lower? Tim: There's a significant middle class opportunity in China. To do a real analysis you really can't look at the averages, but at the distribution. We're learning a lot from our experiences in Brazil, for example.

5:44PM (Just an aside: how hilarious is it that this call is happening right before an event? Peter and Tim sound like they're just toying with these poor analysts.)

5:46PM Can you talk more about the App Store? Is is successful? Peter: I will decline to hit that softball for competitive reasons, but I'd totally smash it if I wanted to, because the App Store is awesome.

5:47PM 70 percent of the Fortune 100 companies and 50 percent of the FT 100 companies are actively piloting the iPhone for enterprise use.

5:49PM Have you seen any change in the iPhone financial model when you move beyond a single carrier in mature markets? Tim: We mostly see that sales increase as we add carriers. We've added carriers in the UK, you'll see a significant change in marketshare there. Same with France, Scandanavia -- marketshare up with more carriers. We've mostly selected countries we thought that would happen in, so I don't want to imply that would happen everywhere or that we think that would happen.

5:51PM How should investors think about the long-term strategy and the acquisitions of Lala and Quattro Wireless? Peter: We acquired Quattro because we wanted a seamless way for developers to make more money on their apps, especially free apps.

5:52PM The iTunes Store and the App Store are runnning at "a bit over break even."

5:53PM Can you explain this crazy new accounting stuff? Peter: Yes, I can.

5:57PM It looks like you're selling a lot of machines in Asia, can you talk about that? Tim: iPhone sales in Japan are up 400 percent, Mac growth is up but we can do better. Mac sales in Asia Pacific are up 55 percent, it's our best area. iPhone sales really drove an incredible amount of revenue growth.

5:57PM (This is super boring, but it's like we started it so now we have to finish. Never say we're quitters, people.)

5:59PM Can you characterize your relationship with Google in the smartphone space? Peter: We work with Google in some places and compete with them in others. Mobile advertising is in its infancy, and with the great people we've acquired from Quattro, we expect to offer developers a great opportunity for mobile advertising.

6:00PM Tim says he'd describe pro sales as an "economically challenged area," and he doesn't think that's going to change.

6:02PM Tim: We really understand teaching and learning at a very deep level, and we think we're the only technology company that gets it. We sell a lot more than just boxes.

6:03PM And that it! Congrats to those of you that have stuck this out -- you're either huge financial nerds or seriously in need of hobbies. Have you considered console gaming?

[logic thinker Posted Jan 25th 2010 8:42PM]

This is on of the sickest statistics of all times;;;
AT&T is a great partner, it's important to remember that they have more mobile broadband usage than any other carrier in the world.
Agree or disagree??

U hear that verizon sprint tmobil. Ouch!!!

[logic thinker Posted Jan 25th 2010 8:46PM]

In November of 2006. I invested $45,000 on aapl stock.
Sick dude.

[logic thinker Posted Jan 25th 2010 8:54PM]

As long as windows keeps having 10,000 viruses on their os. Mac sale will continue to skyrocket.
If u were given $1000 to buy a 13" laptop would u buy a windows or apple.?
Exactly. Only windows laptops that are selling right now are $400-500. Blu light specials at kmart. Amazing.

[Steve Jobs Clone Posted Jan 25th 2010 9:05PM]

@logic thinker
Guess what, there are plenty of good free anti-virus available. People just chose not to install them.

[Average White Boy Posted Jan 26th 2010 12:23AM]

@logic thinker

Mac user with Windows in BootCamp. Install Kaspersky's Internet Security or AVG 9.0 and you'll never see a virus or malware. Those are very effective programs even though sometimes they are annoying due to constantly needed virus updates. Anyone that chooses to use AV software in Windows should be totally protected.

I've never used a AV program on any of my Macs and never had any problems, either.

[pokes Posted Jan 26th 2010 4:47AM]

@logic thinker

I'd buy a vaio :D

[logic thinker Posted Jan 25th 2010 8:58PM]

I knew these viruses would catch up to bill gates reputation. Selling nothing but junk. He's incahoots. With those that install malware n viruses to windows os. Well guess what we have choices for laptops now. Apple to the rescue. Away with mega monolopokies like Microsoft windows os. Good riddance. I will never own a windows infested os. As long as I live . $950 100% virus free apple laptops for life holmes.

[logic thinker Posted Jan 25th 2010 10:29PM]

So with this said. Who manufacturers better laptops mp3's pmp's n smartphones?
Apple or ms!????????

[shu Posted Jan 25th 2010 10:32PM]

whoa, which Apple Store is that photo?

[Rev Posted Jan 25th 2010 11:50PM]

I hateto be a spoilsport, but if you factor in the decline of the dollar, the growth becomes more modest. Impressive sure, but not quite what it seems now. During 3 last months in 2008 dollar euro rate was at 1.318 EURUSD and during 2009 at 1.48 EURUSD. That creates a revenue increase of about 18% in euros.

The Q1 2009 also showed huge decline in iPhone sales from Q4, since people were waiting for 3GS. Q4 2008 had 6.89 million iPhones sold so to that this is a more modest 26% increase in sales.

Apple of course puts out all the hype it can, but Engadget should apply a bit of filtering.

[Rev Posted Jan 26th 2010 2:18AM]

@HighestRanked

I wonder where you are aiming with your witty repartee?

I am trying to point out that there is a reason several analysts were disappointed and the results were below expectations.

[Rev Posted Jan 26th 2010 7:43AM]

@Swagger

Here is one take on the matter, from one of the largest financial sites, genius.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apples-upside-comes-from-accounting-shift-2010-01-25

[Rev Posted Jan 26th 2010 7:46AM]

@Swagger

Here is another, that better tries to point out the smaller than expected iPhone sales. Remember Q4 2008 wasn't even christmas holiday season, so people were expecting bigger increase.

http://industry.bnet.com/technology/10004887/apple-great-sales-disappointing-iphone-ipod-units/

[Rev Posted Jan 26th 2010 12:21PM]

@Swagger

Well you did ask. I didn't say Apple isn't doing well, simply that there were many experts with bigger expectations. Repeating every word Apple says like "double iPhone sales" might give wrong impression.

[Phyzix Posted Jan 26th 2010 1:18AM]

@BOFH I actually registered an account just to reply to this. I wanted to point out that Microsoft actually supported Apple considerably in the 90's - not only through actual investment of capital but also in software support (Office for Mac, etc.).

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/cyberspace/july-dec97/apple_8-6.html

Just something to consider.

[Dshark Posted Jan 26th 2010 2:02AM]

I can almost taste tomorrow...

[beijingbanker Posted Jan 26th 2010 8:49AM]

I love how they chose the Beijing Apple store for the photo...if you go into that store, it's PACKED!! Chinese people are buying up Apple like crazy, and at a 30% premium to US pricing...ridiculous

[mrperson Posted Jan 26th 2010 9:34AM]

hmm 3.8 billion in profits. Apple must have sold like 20 macbook pros, 30 Imacs, and 4 mac pro towers to get those kind of profits.

[mrperson Posted Jan 26th 2010 9:35AM]

oh and 10 Iphones with out contracts

[fontendet Posted Jan 26th 2010 9:35AM]

I'm glad for the Apple.
Congratulations.
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[GenKhan2 Posted Jan 26th 2010 10:44AM]

"joy and surprise" is the new "shock and awe"

You heard it hear first

[TacticalTimbo Posted Jan 26th 2010 11:16AM]

Well it all looks rosy over in Cupertino, though I'm not surprised to see iPod sales down, the range is getting quite stale. I have a 1st gen Touch and nothing about the two that have come since has made me feel like upgrading. I guess also that many who would have bought an iPod Touch just got an iPhone instead, and who could blame them, that's where the lions share of innovation goes.

[TacticalTimbo Posted Jan 26th 2010 12:12PM]

@Swagger

Ok didn't spot that the headline reference was pointing to overall iPod sales. However the Nano isn't old, its only just been refreshed along with the Touch, hows that doing? Also I imagine that if you have more than 64gb of music, you might be interested in the Classic, thought I agree that's a fairly small group, but not 'no one'! Finally I have to say iPod Touch sales rising that much does surprise me, as imo the Touch line has become very stale since it was launched and as I say, I can't find a compelling reason to upgrade. I guess the increase must be largely down to the price drops and the increase in storage capacity.

[d3si9n Posted Jan 26th 2010 7:04PM]

Any word on dropping the $10 dollar iPhone OS upgrade for iPod Touch?

[cpjones Posted Jan 27th 2010 8:23AM]

anyone looking at the actual figures would notice that when comparing the revenue and profits of MSFT, GOOG and AAPL, you should actually compare the right values.
Net Income (from google finance)
AAPL: $1.665 billion
GOOG: $1.974 billion
MSFT: $3.574 billion
The breakdown on most other metrics is the same. MSFT top, GOOG second, AAPL third (apart from revenue where AAPL trumps GOOG). What is impressive is that al three companies are making money hand over fist, with operating profit margins (operating profit/revenue) really high. MSFT at 35%, GOOG at 37% and AAPL at 22.2%. All nice numbers really.

Dont get me wrong, these apple numbers are brilliant, they re obviously doing something right. I just cannot stand people deciding what to compare without ever actually reading and understanding whats going on.

[cpjones Posted Jan 27th 2010 8:28AM]

@cpjones damnit i read Q3 numbers for aapl