AMD had a little show and tell with Asian press to go along with those
new Phenom II and Athlon II chips it just launched, and it revealed some of its next-gen plans along the way. In the short term, it looks like the plan is to launch the 45nm
Leo platform we've heard about later this year to better compete with Intel's 32nm Clarkdale parts, and then to push forward to 32nm in 2011 with the Scorpius platform, which will feature a Bulldozer CPU called
Zambezi with up to 8 cores and a "next-generation discrete graphics solution." Midrange desktops will get some "next-generation integrated graphics" of their own this year on the Dorado platform, while 2011 will see the Lynx platform launch with the long-delayed
Fusion chip. (We were first
supposed to see Fusion chips in late 2008, remember?) Fusion is also still on vapor-y track for laptops with scheduled 2011 launch of the previously-leaked
Sabine platform, but AMD also tipped the new Brazos Fusion-based platform powered by the Ontario APU, which is "optimized for new form factors" -- potentially MID-sized, but we don't know for sure. Phew, that's a lot of codenames -- we'd say we can't wait, but we're clearly going to have to learn how.
posted January 26th 2010 1:04PM
But how would you compare it to an Apple rumor?
/bait
Slower than the competition while generating more heat and using more energy.
Oh man that sucks. I thought that hyperthreading and turbo-boost would help. =(
@Leindurstit
Whoah, sounds like Nvidia's current situation.
@Leindurstit From a CPU perspective, yes, Intel is faster but more expensive.
From an integrated graphics perspective, no. AMDATI still pwnz Intel when it comes to graphics. Intel's GMA HD on the new Clarkdales is better, but not good enough to catch AMD graphics on 785/790 chipsets.
@N900
Even Pentium 4 had hyper-threading.
2011 for 32 nm CPUs? I hate to be a downer but AMD really needs to stop playing catch up and make a jump soon. Instead of 32nm by 2011, how about 22nm instead? Focus more on that and surprise us all.
@daftrok you cant just skip 2 generations it would cost way to much cash which is something amd doesnt have crap not even intel is looking into that they plan on going to 28nm first.
@daftrok Size isn't as important as architecture, AMD has always been behind Intel in that respect, yet Athlon XP, 64, 64 X2 were all better than competing Intel chips of the time.
That only changed with Core.
@daftrok Well, hopefully AMD can cope up with those 6months of leniency of productivity with their processors compare to intel which is now on the verge of 'already releasing' 32 NM procs (4th quarter this year only). clarkdale-arrandale details: http://bit.ly/arrandale-clarkdale-indepth-details
2011 will be go time for AMD. They need to start improving their mobile cpus too, they all have poor battery life and tons of heat.
So GPU cards won't be needed anymore? I mean for non-gamers..
@(Unverified): You don't need those since AMD integrates ATI GPU's on their chipsets.
The HD 4200 and HD 3300 are powerful enough to play a few games at pretty high resolutions, don't try to run Crysis or ArmA 2 though. ;)
@Pyronick And just about all modern integrated graphics solutions are fine for HD video, including the AMD HD3300/4200, and the Intel GMA 3150 HD on the new Clarkdale/Arrandale chips. Any of those will do 1080p video just fine.
@lamerz
as i know the gfx on the intel arrandale / clarksdale is made focused on playing video content. So they play 1080p very well but still lacks on the videogame side
@lamerz
the 3150 is the shit on Pinetrail that still cant do HD video.
The integrated graphics on these could be intresting considering AMD actually know what to do when it comes to graphics cores. Would also like Atom killer as well as i3 please :P
@richb93
Bobcat should be interesting. 90+% performance at 10W TDP is what they were once aiming for...
"Let me tell ya 'bout those sobbin' women, who lived in the Roman days."
*posted from next-gen Lynx desktop platform*
Does that chart imply that six-core AMD processors will only be compatible with a new platform, rather than with motherboards on the market today?
Also, Bulldozer cores look really interesting from a design perspective but don't forget that every two of the "4-8" cores share FP circuitry, so it's 4-8 cores from an integer-processing perspective but only 2-4 from a floating-point-processing perspective.
Do they have to do the fusion dance?
Can anyone say Propus 620: AMD has historically offered an unbeatable value for performance; and consider the rate at which these chips depreciate when in use; the difference in power cost for a desktop chip really only starts to matter if that desktop is being used for 12hr or more per day..... and I get the sense that most casual computer users are using notebooks/ laptops today- which in many instances can do light gaming on the cord without a hitch.... Likewise AMD has been very good about making the chips backward compatible with previous motherboards and AM1, AM2, AM3, AM3+.... so try not to fret.... the future will be tight. AMD will likely always stay a little behind Intel, and for those of you who don't need the uber performance, AMD will almost always offer a better deal for a very similar gigaflops per watt ratio....
@cosmicinglewood
Propus quads suck for anything but number crunching. Low-midrange you want a clarkdale i3.
@fel
Or a Phenom II X2.
@fel For $20 more... and less threaded performance. Not to mention higher system costs. That being said, the Core i3 isn't bad, both AMD and Intel are competitive at that price range.
2011 great just in time for the end of the world!
I don't care.
@LCDBox
THEN DON'T POST.
Does anyone really thing AMD processors are going to catch Intel anytime soon? Every roadmap I see for AMD is at least a year behind the current intel processors. ATI definitely is winning on the graphics side, but if you want processor, you go intel.
I read 2022 is intels goal for 4nm process. Hmm.. are we going to break the nanometer barrier around 2026? That would smell the death of platter HD in favor of cheap and large SSD alternatives. Oh, I can't wait to overclock my 64 core notebook to 4.5ghz with a 1 tb of ram and still get 12 hours of battery life :)
@dds1043 think**
@dds1043
I doubt there will ever be a time where any sane person will be overclocking a laptop.
@archkron The Asus UL series UL50, 30, 80 are all over clocking the SU7300 to 1.733 ghz. Boo - yah