Samsung to mass produce 3.3-inch touch-embedded AMOLED panels
Need a mystery to keep you bewildered? Here's one: that layer of nothingness between the touch-sensing glass and the display on your phone. Whatever that is, Samsung's about to blow it away with a new 3.3-inch 800 x 480 AMOLED touchscreen coming in March. The magic lies in the on-cell touch technology -- 0.001mm-thick capacitive touch sensors are deposited between the panel's substrate and the bottom polarizer film, thus removing the usual touchscreen glass cover and the gap that follows. If all goes well, Samsung should be delivering thinner and lighter phones with slightly brighter touchscreens in a few months' time, or possibly phones in the current package but with bigger batteries. Sorry, LCD, but we've got a new crush to focus on.
























@Solidstate89
Cheaper and thinner phones for us all.... hopefully...
Screw thinner i'd rather keep them at the same thickness but just use the extra space for a bigger battery!
When cleaning your phone screen, always use a soft cloth, and as a handy tip, place a small piece of mint in the battery compartment, and a fresh crotch will be your reward!
Its a good thing.
@geekthree
Did you not realize you weren't posting as Martha anymore? Hah! I know your true identity Martha. You can take that mask off now.
That dude needs to get some sun.
@boonlar he needs sun... but cant see the screen outside. whats a guy to do ???
@boonlar
I think it's a zombie, they are known to be all over OLED.
what about the physical damage? Today you can use iPhone as a hammer, and even if you will destroy somehow the glass, you can simply and quite cheap repair it. But without the glass?! You would destroy the chip itself, so repairment impossible.
But if they would somehow implement it with some durable&light screen protector, they they are definitiely on a good way.
Anyway - the only problem i got with samsung phones is their lack of operating system. Yes, there are some widgets etc., but nothing to compare to iPhone, Android or even the stupid pocket pc or symbian. So put there Android and then call me again ;)
@ThomasK
if i could vote your comment down twice then i most definitely would.
@Slyk
TROLL.
It is true the fact of the physical damage and i don't think that a glass-less screen will be more secure.
@ThomasK here's a helpful tip to avoid destroying your phone's display: dont use it as a hammer
@ThomasK Ahhh no, the screen cracks quite easily on an iphone. So no, it could not be used as a hammer.
@ThomasK
My Samsung Galaxy with AMOLED screen and Android wonders wtf you are talking about...
@ThomasK
What the What? What the Fuck? What? you sir, are a buffoon!
And what? an Iphone Hammer? what the fuck?
and chips? what? what?
seriously, what is your problem / mental condition? seriously, get help.please. please.
at least you didnt mention the Ipad tho, that is your only redeeming feature.
shit, now I have, damn you, you bring the worse out of me,
@ThomasK
Uhh? Just because it doesn't need glass doesn't mean there won't be any protective coating/layer.
The first few sentences of this post left me entirely confused as to what the author was talking about/trying to get at.
Oh, and the new screen technology does sound pretty cool.
Is this a good thing though?
A lot of people like the glass panel, especially ones that are oleophobic and scratch resistant.
@(Unverified) Oleophobic works about as well as screen doors on a submarine.
@MONKEY
I do not agree; I barely ever have to actually clean my ipod touch.
I can just use my finger to wipe it off as nothing actually "sticks" to the screen
@(Unverified) I have heard great things about the HTC HD2 screen - very scratch resistant and no smudges
@Reggie3
Agreed.
Why would you want a screen without some kind of glass protector?
@(Unverified) You people have never cracked open a phone to replace the touchscreen, have you?
There's at least two/three layers of glass there. Usually, you have something like this:
[Scratch-resistant glass layer]
[Sensing Layer/Digitizer]
[Glass Backing, about 1-2mm thick]
[Empty space/Glue]
[Glass front of LCD]
[Liquid crystal layer]
[Backing glass of LCD]
[Lamp]
An amoled display already gets rid of the front glass cover of the LCD because the LEDS are sprayed on top of the backing substrate and all you need is a thin plastic layer to protect them. This advancement would further reduce a layer between the digitizer and the plastic front of the AMOLED leaving the digitizer resting right on top of the AMOLED plastic.
When you crack open a capacitive touchscreen, you'll notice that there's a thick layer of what seems to be nothing but glass, but that you know is not the LCD, that layer, along with then glue of nothing in between that and the top of the LCD glass (because LCD's have to be glass enclosed, no exceptions) is what we'd see gone.
Progress indeed, but there's ofcourse the concern of AMOLED's poor performance on direct sunlight. I'll say it again, how about revisiting transflective backings for AMOLEDS. They'd work now since the AMOLED layer is atop it, AMOLEDS generate their own light, and thus the transflective layer wouldn't cut down the (unecessary, unexistent) light of the backing lamp?
Not 3.7? ghey.
so how does the 0.001mm stand against me poking it with a stylus or fingernail? and how readable is it under the sun?
@BratPAQ No, it's on the other side.
@Richard Lai so what do they mean by "thus removing the usual touchscreen glass cover and the gap that follows"
@BratPAQ
It is rather confusing sounding. They make it sound as if the glass layer is removed entirely.
viewing in sunlight fail
oh, and 3.3 is still pretty small..even for the average person these days.
@tylersmyler
Wasn't 5.5" average?
@grawss
Is it really? Wow. I feel better about myself.
Screen tech shcreesheeeshmereem tech. when are you tech companies going to start upgrading battery tech? don't make me come into your industry and do it myself or, well, you know, all the batteries will end up sarcastic and stuff. but undeniably handsome and debonair, oh yes.
So is this capacitive? I didn't see anything about that in the link.
@jsjohnson
"The magic lies in the on-cell touch technology -- 0.001mm-thick capacitive touch sensors are deposited between the panel's substrate and the bottom polarizer film"
@Phil P
Thanks, the link didn't indicate that and I missed it in the article.
I didn't think there was that much awesomeness about AMOLED compared to an LCD, like I thought the difference was small between the two for an average consumer. But damn was I wrong. I saw the Omnia II in Verizon next to a Pre, geezus, that was a gorgeous screen. The colors truely are much more crisp. I can't wait for TVs to get that stuff.
no more dust between the glass and the panel!
So I will finally be able to poke through the screen with unarmed finger?
Hooray!!!
With the supposed 3.6" minimum screen requirement for WM7, this may force Samsung off Microsoft for future phones.
@seven5suited
Nowhere does it say that 3.3" is Samsung standard now. This is new tech from them, so the will introduce it slowely, because of pricing i'm sure. There WILL be 3.6"+ displays like this, especially when they announce the Omnia 3 or newER Behold.
too small? poke a hole through it? you guys seriously don't think Samsung will think about this?
of course there will be other sizes down the line! And I really hope people dont think that a piece of glass is the only thing keeping people from breaking screens now.
please trust in sammy. if all the countries leader's in the world game them all power and resources, the world would be a better place
AMOLED washes out in sunlight - not sure they have addressed this issue - LCDs at least can be used for cameras and phone use.
Good luck replacing the entire screen when the digitizer malfunctions.
Is that Homer Simpson's Hand??? Where is the missing Finger?
LOL just noticed one finger is missing!
@sdmeier69 The pinky's right below the phone!
@Richard Lai LOL. Damn I'm blind. LOL!
How will it impact battery life? I have a huge problem these days. Specifically, when my new smartphone arrived I noticed it came with an external charger and an extra battery. Much to my dismay, I learned that to get through EVEN ONE DAY of light to moderate use, I have to lug that extra battery around with me everywhere I go.
Now, I know the new American culture is one of apathy and whining, but I find it totally reprehensible that carrying around extra gear is becoming the norm. Seriously, why don't the engineers in charge of electronics stop bitching about the current state of battery technology and man up: make your electronics better so they work well with TODAY's battery technology instead of whining about how battery technology somehow "hasn't caught up."
They should know better and they should worry about fixing battery life issues by making better electronics, not by sniveling about someone else's job.
Cool phones now require you to cut off your middle finger. That 4 fingered guy looks dangerous.
@Alexpeegs Look again -- there are definitely five.
I'm surprised theres no wild future iPhone speculation here.