There is a MAJOR point being missed here, and that is the fact that they can install FORWARD COMPATIBLE "3G equipment delivered to AT&T by the suppliers starting this year that will be easily convertible to LTE," More 3G now, 4G LTE ready in the near future. 2 BIRDS, 1 STONE! Verizon cant do that, why? STUPID CDMA...
Verizon won't need to do that. Their CDMA network can deliver the voice aspect and the LTE network will deliver the data. I'd trust and trust Verizon's voice network over AT$T's shoddy faux network any day. Verizon could also activate the wideband 4g protocol on their CDMA network and deliver awesome sounding voice calls.
And now they will have to pay to upgrade their network (i.e one reason why their q4 rev took a hit). There is no more tweaking of LAME AZZ CDMA which they should have dumped a long time ago. Now they WILL have to pay WELL for that LTE network changeover. Sayin...
LTE has a relatively direct progression path from both GSM and CDMA, (though from GSM it IS "more direct") being able to hand-off back and forth between either. UMB died because the largest CDMA carriers very likely wanted to move to something a bit more interoperable with the rest of the world. So, with little interest from carriers, Qualcomm canceled development.
@Frankenstein Black Don't forget Verizon's ingenious plan to use CDMA fallback. I see that being nothing but fail.
I hope VZW has 10 mhz blocks ready in 850 in case their deployment fails. If there's a bright side to what they are doing, is that their LTE equipment will also be able to put out an HSPA+ signal if they need it to. Considering that it could get them the iPhone, I think it's worth VZW doing this.
@justinm09 The air interface might be the same between CDMA and UMTS, but that's where the similarities end. The core is much more interoperable between 3GPP (UMTS, 3G GSM) and LTE than between CDMA2000 (proprietary standard few other countries use) is.
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There is a MAJOR point being missed here, and that is the fact that they can install FORWARD COMPATIBLE "3G equipment delivered to AT&T by the suppliers starting this year that will be easily convertible to LTE," More 3G now, 4G LTE ready in the near future. 2 BIRDS, 1 STONE! Verizon cant do that, why? STUPID CDMA...
@Frankenstein Black
Not true. VZW's EVDO equipment will be able to upgrade to LTE.
@Frankenstein Black
Verizon won't need to do that. Their CDMA network can deliver the voice aspect and the LTE network will deliver the data. I'd trust and trust Verizon's voice network over AT$T's shoddy faux network any day. Verizon could also activate the wideband 4g protocol on their CDMA network and deliver awesome sounding voice calls.
@anthony
@JKL
LOL! You 2 Vcast fanboys are funny ;^p...
UMB (the cdma evolution to 4G) is DEAD! Thats why Verizon crossed over to LTE (the gsm evolution to 4G).
http://mobile.engadget.com/2006/12/08/ev-do-revision-c-becomes-ultra-mobile-broadband/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/verizon-dumps-cdma-for-gsm-based-lte-in-4g-networks/
And now they will have to pay to upgrade their network (i.e one reason why their q4 rev took a hit). There is no more tweaking of LAME AZZ CDMA which they should have dumped a long time ago. Now they WILL have to pay WELL for that LTE network changeover. Sayin...
@Frankenstein Black
LTE has a relatively direct progression path from both GSM and CDMA, (though from GSM it IS "more direct") being able to hand-off back and forth between either. UMB died because the largest CDMA carriers very likely wanted to move to something a bit more interoperable with the rest of the world. So, with little interest from carriers, Qualcomm canceled development.
@Frankenstein Black Don't forget Verizon's ingenious plan to use CDMA fallback. I see that being nothing but fail.
I hope VZW has 10 mhz blocks ready in 850 in case their deployment fails. If there's a bright side to what they are doing, is that their LTE equipment will also be able to put out an HSPA+ signal if they need it to. Considering that it could get them the iPhone, I think it's worth VZW doing this.
@Frankenstein Black
Besides the fact that your 3g is based off CDMA technology? If it wouldn't have been for 3g you'd still be on edge.
@justinm09 The air interface might be the same between CDMA and UMTS, but that's where the similarities end. The core is much more interoperable between 3GPP (UMTS, 3G GSM) and LTE than between CDMA2000 (proprietary standard few other countries use) is.