FCC paper trail suggests AT&T getting Pre in May?
By Chris Ziegler 
posted February 10th 2010 5:13PM
posted February 10th 2010 5:13PM
posted February 10th 2010 5:13PM
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It's good to see Palm's reach expanding. The OS is great, and this will help give them the funding for hardware to match.
@Elaith
ya me too although I am not really a fan of att but I'm really rooting for palm, in my mind the pre deserves the attention that the 3gs is getting, this move will most likely increase the pre's install base and thus bring in more developers for more applications... and now that the new 1.4 update is coming out and unlocking the pre's microphone to develops, i would love to see a shazaam app among voice recording, and conversation recording
@Elaith
I definitely agree and I'm loving my Pre Plus. but Palm needs to stop re-releasing the same phone over and over, and release a new next-gen phone. The Pre didn't do SO well that Palm can afford to test its magic on multiple carriers a year after its original inception.
personally I'd like to see a candybar form (like the Pixi) but with the guts of a much stronger (say, 2x the Pre Plus) phone. that'd be worthwhile
Pre Plus Plus perhaps? maybe some video recording capability? Maybe add the Pixi keyboard? I can dream can't I?
@dannyry oh.. I forgot Blackberry
@dannyry
video recording is coming to Palm devices through webOS 1.4. and that's happening soon - February soon. so there's a check off your wishlist =)
Isn't it like 2 years old now. Why don't they make a new version with some actual new features?
@wickedwobotics
June 2009 - February 2010. Definitely sounds like two years to me.
/facepalm
@wickedwobotics Approximately 8 months... and a new device is coming but Palm is focused on optimizing the current Palm hardware.
@airmikee
exaggeration is never appreciated...
@wickedwobotics A new form factor like Apple has done with the iPhone right?
An ATT Pre vs. an ATT Nexus One? That's probably the next Phone Battle Royale going to happen in my pocket...
@johdaxx
Theirs an entirely different battle happening in my pocket...
@johdaxx Same here. However, if they do launch the regular Pre, the Nexus One is gonna win hands down.
@johdaxx
There really should be no question as to the Nexus One vs. the Pre. The Nexus One blows the Pre away in almost every respect.
@johdaxx When the Nexus One comes to AT&T, screw Apple, iPhone is going to have to give up my left front pocket for my Nexus One.. that is all..
@Mr Oos No argument. Web OS' UI still might be cool enough to make me make a questionable decision though.
No way man- WebOS is totally a better OS! If I were to want Linux on a phone, I would spring for Maemo 5, which is awesome (too bad it's not on AT&T tho).
Have you seen the multi-tasking capabilities on the Pre Plus (50 Apps at a time!!) and the UI is so much better than the iPhone's in terms of app and info management.
Android is a really good OS, but it's not nearly as refined as WebOS. If WebOS gets more adoption, it could easily beat Android in number and quality of apps. I really look forward to it.
@Palomino
I totally agree. I had the droid for 2 months and Android really isn't polished and complete like webOS is - and I don't mean only in terms of style. Honestly, I can imagine that Android 3.0 and beyond will be badass beyond compare, but webOS in version 1.3.5.1 kicks all the other smartphone OS's asses, I can't imagine what it'll be like at version 3.0+
@Mr Oos
except you have to use Android as your OS - lol
WebOS >>>>> Android
@HerbieDerb
Non-event? Are you high? Palm may not be selling their phones like hotcakes but that doesn't mean they are out of the game just yet! And with what I've been seeing with WebOS, I'd hate for them to fail. Competition is a beautiful thing.
@nelagster Competition is a beautiful thing unless your are a Palm Pre. It already a failure on VZW and will be more so on ATT/Iphone.
@HerbieDerb
/yawn
People have been saying that for a year now. Give it up.
Palm may not be dominating the market like they used to, but they're definitely not out of the game.
Couldn't it come before that? the same FCC documents for the Nexus One(t-mobile) say April 30th 2010 and the phone was released on January 4th/5th.
Just dont invest in ticker:PALM if you want to retire with money.
@HerbieDerb Can someone report this mofo to the SEC?
@ToniCipriani
Your comment shows how ignorant you are. Truth hurts.
@ToniCipriani
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/analysts-turn-sour-on-palm-stock-cite-weak-sales-on-verizon/2#comments
hahaha
About time! Hopefully it'll either come with 32GB storage capacities and/or sd storage seeing that its being launced so late. Palm's WebOS is still the best and most polished one to date. The only thing that they are missing is market penetration, and the large app store that comes with that.
What has been holding them back?
1. launching on CDMA without offering GSM-unlocked versions at least
2. Not releasing more hardware options with better storage options.
Honestly, the only reason Android has been gaining ground is b/c they have devices on every carrier and better hardware options since the release of the Nexus One and announcement of the Xperia X10.
@Luxury Guy
"...the only reason Android has been gaining ground is b/c they have devices on every carrier and better hardware options .."
Those would be VERY good reasons to not buy a Pre. Why doesnt Palm do the same?
@Luxury Guy I agree, palm is screwing themselves on this deal, They should be selling unlocked online , and they need more handsets bad
@Luxury Guy
I agree that WebOS is very polished, perhaps more so than any other mobile OS. I picked one up over the weekend for Sprint and am extremely impressed. Perhaps some of my excitement can be explained by its new-ness but I really believe it's that good.
Palm is almost there - they just need to refine the hardware. For example, the Pre keyboard is simply too small and the screen could stand to be a bit bigger. Other than that, I have nothing but nice things to say about the Pre.
@airmikee Just dont invest in ticker:PALM if you want to retire with money.
I will definitley buy to pair with iPhone/iPad our 3g network is fast.
@HerbieDerb
Everyone said the same thing about Android. It was all, 'oh it doesn't have any apps' and 'oh it's only on T-Mobile.'
And what do ya know, after a year of further development and expanding onto more carriers, Android is taking off.
WebOS is basically following the same path as Android. Come out on a small carrier, work out a lot of the bugs. Then expand to other worldwide and US carriers.
Maybe a Rogers version is in the works as well? (or better yet, unlocked from Palm)
@Solarviper24 Thank you.
AT&T deserves mad cow disease, not a cool cell phone.
Too Little, too late, no reason it should have taken so long. Palm doesn't want to sell phones , is all I can assume
@Hydra
I agree. Sadly, this is a non-event. Pre seems destined to fail under the clout of Android/WM/Iphone.
You could put a gold brick on AT&T service.
The stipulation is that it is only worth it's weight in gold if it doesn't drop calls in New York.
@krische Dont get me wrong. Id like to pull for the underdog like the next guy. But Ive been in this business a long time and this one will not prevail. Palm will either fade away or get bought. It doesnt have enough money/users/fanboys/apps/clout (you pick any or all).
@HerbieDerb
People still say "ticket:blah blah"? Couldn't you have just said, "Don't invest in Palm"?
The stock is six times higher than it was in December, 2008. Please, please, please, it's painfully obvious you lack even the most basic stock market knowledge, stop giving out stock advice.
As a guy stuck on ATT until the end of time (family plans mean I would have to keep my beloved-yet-hoary Q9H while listening to my wife hating on her Nokia 6650 until January 2011 to free myself) I am absolutely SLOBBERING over the notion of a WebOS device on America's most hated network. I loved my old Treos, and after playing a bit with a Pre I feel like WebOS is really for me.
That being said I would like some different hardware. Pre's screen is a bit too small, and the lack of removable storage is just... fruity.
Also I have read some reviews but none of them cover my specific scenario: how does Web OS sync with Outlook when one is NOT using Exchange? I understand all sync is done wirelessly/over-the-air but I want my contacts and calendar items to show up on my desk and in my pocket (no matter where they get entered from) without having to futz around with Google calendars and crap like that. This is something that worries me about Android devices as well, no matter how I covet them. No Outlook sync, no dice-- and all the rumors I hear about WM7 aren't too heartening either (no Flash? No multitasking? App Marketplace installs only? Is MS's grand strategy just to ape Apple? I truly do not understand).
@nefnet13 I agree entirely. Lack of Outlook sync has kept me out of WebOS and Android entirely. I guess there aren't enough small businesses using Outlook without exchange for them to consider.
I'd be happy if Google would get their act together and unify their syncing. Their beta calendar sync app is a good start, but they have stalled there.
Right now I sync Outlook Calendar with Google Calendar, then GCal with my phone(s) over-the-air, but I have to sync Outlook contacts, notes, and tasks with my phone(s) through USB. I would switch my phone to sync to Google contacts if they could sync with Outlook WITH contact picture support, but where is it?
I'm all for cloud PIM syncing, but I need Outlook to be invited to the party.
Why would you go to AT&T for this phone if you can get it on Verizon for basically the same price and better coverage?
@bjbjohnson I live in a fine coverage area,and I like the fact I can surf the net on my headset and still be able to talk. I understand the anti-at&t vibe though, from people living in other areas at&t seems to shun.
@bjbjohnson
Maybe because not everyone in the country has terrible service from AT&T? I live in Indianapolis and have no problem with dropped calls or data loss. Every carrier has their faults, including VZW.
@bjbjohnson
I dont know here in Ohio i have Great coverage way better than Verizon and have 3G everywhere. Ohio is not small in population were the 7th largest in the US and most people here have AT&T. In Cincinnati i have Awesome coverage and Super fast 3G that is even faster here lately. if you live in the midwest or ever travel here you will have great coverage on at&t
@nelagster oh.. I forgot to metion Blackberry