Seattle eager for Google fiber, other cities apt to fall in line
By Darren Murph 
posted February 12th 2010 8:14PM
posted February 12th 2010 8:14PM
posted February 12th 2010 8:14PM
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@ordonator
Bellevue would actually be pretty easy to sell, know that I think about it.
sobb i want it in new york>>!
You have to nominate your city; you can't just post it here and expect people to care.
Give us your privacy and we'll give you some fiber... hehehehe ;)
Now everyone moves to Seattle !!
Portland Oregon has Level3 colocation facilities in town, and is connected by a handful of private fiber backbones. Less than 85 miles away, Google has a massive data facility in The Dalles.
Within 15 square miles in and around downtown, one can reach 1/5th the population of Portland, at about 110,000 residents +/- depending how far you spread out.
Everyone in Portland knows at least one person that works at Intel in neighboring Hillsboro. Having been the test bed for WiMax for years, this region is perfectly set up for high speed networks.
And yet, the core area has no existing fiber for residential or low-cost commercial.
Are you kidding me? This is the take over of our internet as we know it. This is just a beta test for the new beast grid they are enforcing on us.
Go to the OpenId home page, google it. Notice how the white house sits above all the other companies backing one form of ID for the internet, Yahoo, Google, Myspace, Word Press, AOL, ALL BACKING ONE FORM OF ID. Preferably biometric I might add. Since when do all these companies agree on anything?
Google Infowars Internet, or check out youtube. There is a take over in place as we speak of our internet and no one is talking about it. Sites sponsored by AOL, and newspapers, don't want to talk about it because they know it will destroy independent media. They have lost a lot of money from independent media, and they know they will be on the allow lists once internet 2.0 is put into place.
BIO METRIC DATA USED TO LOG INTO ALL INTERNET ACTIVITY.
Search facebook for the group "Protect Internet Freedom" for more information.
@FreeOurInternet
Biometric data is logging everything on the internet?
Last I checked, my keyboard did not have finger print scanners nor my monitors have retina scanners.
Take a chill pill, dude. Did you get this worked up when The Home Depot took over the home improvement sector? Hell, even habitat for humanity backed them - what more proof did we need?
@dcnoren All the information that this is happening is right under your nose, how much information do you want that THIS WILL HAPPEN, all who blindly let this happen to them are fool, please I am trying to help you understand the world you are living in mate, I'm trying to wake people up out of the goodness of my heart here.
Search google for the "Cyber security bill", this bill calls for the monitoring of all internet activity, for the recording of all logging in and out of websites, it will eventually require more than one form of identification, weather it be a token key generator, or biometric.
In Australia they are openly stating in declassified documents that passwords are not enough and that they need biometric keys.
Everything that goes onto the internet is going to have to be FCC approved. If you know anything about the FCC this is not good. If your youtube video, or your comments you post do not adhere to their standards you will not be allowed to post it.
In Australia they are blocking emails with "dirty language" how vague is that. So dirty jokes on the internet are now outlawed. Its the same in America, well it will be.
Once again I can not reiterate how much I am trying to help people realize their internet is being taken from them, just like millions of dollars was stolen by banks from under American's noses.
Take note of all the media attention to cyber security,and why the government is telling us we should adopt internet 2.0
ITS ALL IN THE BILL, READ IT, PLEASE READ IT.
@dcnoren http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?id=47867 are you kidding me, watch the video link here.
@dcnoren http://boingboing.net/2009/08/28/us-senate-cyber-secu.html
@FreeOurInternet
http://nsaney.com/pics/tin_foil_hat_cat_man.jpg
Damn you guys have even turned the kittens against me =(
Ceiling Cat will NOT be pleased....
@Google http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/bj040501.html
With weather weapons and such its almost crazy not to protect yourself. :)
@FreeOurInternet Dude, your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
(Metro) Atlanta would be nice, but our local governments are so corrupt to begin with they'd just take all the bits for themselves.
Time to move to Seattle...
Hello from Seattle. 1,001 real issues to be addressed in this town, and he's worried about gigabit fiber?!
I'm thinking about getting some t-shirts made up...
One OS to rule them all, One search engine to find them.
One DNS to bring them all and in darkness bind them.
Google --- Don't be evil.
I'd be extremely happy if this comes to Baltimore
http://www.techroundup.webs.com
Please Mayor Bloomberg, we need to get rid of Time Warner!
(it'll never happen...)
I live in a small town. Great, I'm never going to get it...
Well, this is Mike McGinn we're talking about, he'll probably demand that 1/3 of the bandwidth be reserved exclusively for buses.
I emailed our city's mayor and gott a reply, though I doubt nything will be done.
"Thank you for bringing the Google fiber project to our attention. We will most certainly apply on the City’s behalf, although we might have a better shot by trying to work regionally with other cities and/or with the County. Regardless, the program is very exciting and we’ll do everything we can to attract Google’s attention."
Is Brazil possible? My town is under the 500k people limit... Does that mean I can apply?
@EduBrazil Its only in America.
@foxh8er2 It's South America lol...
So... how exactly does this even work?
A) What is the purpose of a Gig to your house? What at your house could you possibly do with a Gig? (Insert porn download jokes here) Why not just Fast E to the home? It's the realistic option but I guess doesn't sound as sexy as Gig.
B) If you light 20 houses with a Gig each how do you agregate that? 10 Gig circuits are the fastet commercially available circuit speeds today. And that is only available as lambda services, which are great for point to point applications but not survivable backbone service. All you are doing is moving the bottle neck from the last mile to the disto layer.
C) There is no way to make this cost effective without massive oversubscription. Which just leads to having a 10 lane onramp to a 2 lane highway.
what does 1gb/s translate into download speed. if my 12mb/s connection gets me like 1mb/s download, then this google one must be extremely fast...
@cyclone13
http://nsaney.com/pics/tin_foil_hat_cat_man.jpg
Damn you guys have even turned the kittens against me.... Ceiling Cat will NOT be pleased....
I think Dallas/Fort Worth would be a good test area.
@choeppner
I second that.
It's not going to make zshare or movshare any faster and my 16mbps service is already way faster than they have the ability to stream at because their servers fucking suck, and 90% of the time I am streaming video, so... -.- damn it.
Google: You're objective is to move to all Time Warner facilities and exterminate monopolies with extreme prejudice. GO GO GO!
Portland, Oregon! Join our group!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=301059636737
We need to escape Comcast!
Salt Lake City... please... need... internet that doesn't suck wiener like Comcast...
finaly someone with more money that craptastic (comcast) to force the market forward
I know that the mayor of Issaquah, Washington (east of seattle, south of redmond) is actively pursuing the Google fiber as well.
This miss me : Google is serving certain community... community of how many household ? or how many building ? 1Gbps is not such a big bandwidth if shared by 10.000 houses....
I live about 5min driving time from downtown Seattle and I have one option for high speed internet. And that would be Comcast, which although has decent speed is not too reliable. It goes down once in a while, has routing issues, and/or speed degradation. Qwest DSL is available to me if I want a 1.5Mbit pipe. Verizon stays out of Qwest territories.
I work on the east-side in a large office complex, you'd think they'd have fiber. The best they can do is T-Carrier over copper at thousands of dollars a month for anything more than a bonded T1.
Considering that the Greater Seattle Area is one of the tech capitals of the world, the above examples are kind of pathetic.
In most of these places Google would have to lay fresh fiber, which I don't see happening. Verizon had tons of money to blow on doing the same, yet lately they haven't been doing much around Seattle.
This is google monopoly in action...
b2busa@usa-ham.com
I believe this is a tactical maneuver towards a larger business strategy. Google wants to break into Microsoft's software market share and their current offerings (Chrome, Google Docs) can't compete against Microsoft's Office suite or Window's OS without a high-speed network infrastructure. Imagine Google docs on DSL, dial-up, etc... It's just too slow. However, if they can provide a fiber ISP, then their apps work wonderfully fast and comparable against Microsoft products. Imagine buying a computer w/o software and not having to worry about hardware specs to support the OS or other apps. That's what Google wants - a Web to support your needs not a single app on your computer!
i want it in the triangle (raleigh durham and chaple hill in nc)
Personally, I believe my city should get 1GB/s Fiber.
Why?
Because we have Research Triangle Park.
Just another reason why Raleigh rocks!
Seattle is 594,000+.
@weekilter
Sorry to break it to you, but Seattle is also pushing for its suburb, the infamous Redmond, to be a candidate as well. It, on the other hand, only has a population of about 50,000.
Please, me too! We need this in Los Angeles PLEASE! It's more important than Seattle D: cmon, we don't even have FiOS in America's 2nd biggest city, that's not very fair now is it :(
I'm ok with Time Warner but I don't mind something cheaper and faster, with fiber rather than copper, thankfully it's only me and my neighbor who have Time Warner on our street which means we get more speed than we paid for and at some times it get's even higher.
Dallas you better deliver. You already have this stupid rule where fiber lines from Verizon can't be ran here in Dallas.
Come to Canada T_T I have 3mbps in my area. Bell sucks.
Dear Google,
Pick me.
-ED
porn
The arogance of Google astounds me. You now want Countries and communities to gravel, beg, put on song and dance, so that we can have access to your services, free or not-= GET OVER YOURSELVES