LG launches Skinny Frame plasma HDTVs, hates on bezels
By Tim Stevens 
posted February 17th 2010 7:31AM
posted February 17th 2010 7:31AM
posted February 17th 2010 7:31AM
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What an amazing optical illusion, if you stare at those pictures long enough, two TV's appear out of nowhere!
Thoze bezels chopped that poor girl's arm right off.
I like the fat glossy bezel on my kuro, and so does everyone else that sees it.
600hz refers to the subfield drive and not refresh rate. The subfield is how many pulses of energy it can deliver for a certain pixel per frame, the more it can the better it can show very low luminance. 10 subfields for 60hz = 600hz. Older plasmas did 8 so 480hz. Kuros can do 14 times 72hz, so 1008 technically.... Buts it's all marketing b.s. And only included to give a Hz rating like LCDs do... Since 600 is higher than 120 or 240.
@irfan
That was much better written than the drivel that I posted earlier. :)
@irfan
Not quite. The number of subfields is independent of the number of screen refreshes. A 600Hz plasma can drive its pulse modulators 600 times per second, whether the TV is on 48Hz, 60Hz, 72Hz or anything more exotic. The subfield drive specification is the (rounded) physical limit of its pulse modulators.
The TV controls framerate by identifying when to advance to the next frame setting. For example, if you're on a 600Hz television and the TV orders changes on subfields 1, 11, 21, etc., it's displaying 60fps. The subfields in between can be used to smooth transitions (for more fluid motion) and/or for dithering (for more precise color/contrast).
Pioneer Kuros had 600Hz subfield drives before most of the competition, and shipped a few models capable of 840Hz (though information on these is scarce and there is some dispute about whether it was truly 840Hz-capable top to bottom, or limited just low-power pulses for blacker blacks), but nothing was ever delivered to consumers that could go faster than 840.
@asfdsad What would the point of 840 be? 600 is the lowest multiple of 50, 60, and 24, and therefore the ideal number. I can't see any point at all in going higher? I'm not saying you're wrong, just trying to understand.
@hyslopc
840Hz subfield drive gives you you deeper blacks, even smoother transitions, and fewer dithering artifacts than 600Hz. It's better for the same reason that 600 is better than 480 on the 2007-2008 models.
Multiples of the framerate have nothing to do with subfield processing--it's just the maximum number of pulses per second that can be applied to the cells. The control clock ensures that the subfields sync with frame changes based on complicated perceptual math (remember that 60fps is really 59.94fps).
It need not line up perfectly. Indeed, on 600Hz models with film mode, frame doubling is used--the display runs at 48fps, which does not evenly divide into 600. The Kuro and some other models can also step up to 72Hz, which does not divide perfectly into either 600 or 840.
who is the photographer because i would want to see the rest of the photo set... who knows that cute asian chick is probably the next 3D experience they talked about at CES this year...
engadget should use pic3 for cover
People are selling $2000 OLED 15" screens and a 60inch screen for $3K seems expensive to you?!?!?
For a really good 60 inch picture with good motion handling, I'd gladly pay $5000. DANG I miss the KURO's!!! I'm not saying the LG's are good or bad but the price is fair if it is even close to the screen quality of a Kuro.
Does the gir... just give me the plasma.
if she sneezes, those displays are fucked.
:P
then again, flux plasma
Guys, Before you harp on the girl,
There is a Chinese blog that outs many of the show/product models as post-op transsexuals. I kid you not. Many of the models I've seen for Intel in Taiwan were "he" before they became a "she."
@HDD Here is one of the blogs in question:
http://blog.xuite.net/osaki99/blog/16991149
@HDD
Maybe this is why I've never really been attracted to Asians chicks. They aren't chicks at all!
To hell with the plasmas, i want that chick!!!
That's one of the side effects of the yellow fever. All young Asian women become far more attractive. Trust me, I've been afflicted with the fever for years.
Really guys? She's totally goofy lookin'.
@TIMMAH
Yeah, goofy in a hot way.
@TIMMAH
It's the hair. Actually, I think it's a wig. I believe she's the same LG model shown here:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/lg-roboking-adds-second-camera-seeks-to-escape-roomba-shadow/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/lgs-xg1-chic-external-hard-drive-looks-just-dainty/
@Spiny Norman yea! i didn't notice it at all! thanks a lot for the fyi
Godammit Engadget, why do you have to have right click disabled on your image gallery?
I wanted to save those pics. ;_;
Now I see the skinny frame but what are these TVs doing here?
Aww honey... you brought me home a freaking sweet plasma tv? you shouldnt have...
WHY DOES THE TIRE LOOK LIKE ITS GONNA HIT ME ANY SECOND NOW!!! (runs away)
Why do screens need bezels anyway ? Please explain, because without them everyone could have ginormous screens. Is anyone working on bezel free screens or would it kill profits so much that the manufacturers won't do it ?
Yep, it's a conspiracy.