@metaesapuet but they'll be accurate if nothing else.
FINALLY, as soon as the Nexus or another good Android phone gets to AT&T people will see that it's not the service, it's the crappy iPhone with it's inefficient radio/antenna. Funny how most other people with a 3G phone on AT&T don't complain.
@sumx4182 i had an iphone and i didnt experience none of those issues. i guess maybe because i am in a major market(chicago). i have a blackberry now and still no drop calls. but i might be the blame for using every piece of 3g speed i could get my hands on lol. 3g abuser i am :)
a handful of cities and the network speed there won't make AT&T the best, the need coverage beyond this list. can't really rely on this survey to conclude anything about the networks... sorry AT&T, i don't see any substance in this...
Yeah, no. That myth was debunked a long time ago by doing extensive testing against other phones in a different country. The iPhone antennas are fine. For example, I have 5 bars all the time in my area, and I never drop calls. How do you explain that?
In other words, people aren't actually having this problem. Because in your own words, Apple fixed it. But did they? Look a little harder at that article you linked to:
To sum it up: • There is no conclusive answer • 3G may just be overwhelmed • iPhone may just have a terrible antenna (other AT&T phones work just fine) • Some are claiming a 'poor batch' of iPhones being sold early on • Apple has yet to make claims of hardware issues
In your mind, do the words "no conclusive answer" somehow mean "the iPhone has terrible reception"? Would you care to explain how you made that leap of logic? We know that the iPhone accounts for 50% of ALL mobile traffic in the US, and that is 100% on AT&T. We also know that it's been bogging down their network and that they're working on fixing it.
Does it not seem reasonable then, to assume that the issues here are due to AT&T's network, and not the iPhone, especially in the face of overwhelming evidence that the iPhone is not the problem? Are you aware that in known AT&T trouble spots like New York, ALL phones on AT&T's network are having the same issues? Give it some thought.
These results seem very wrong to me. I have tested my Sprint card versus my sisters At&t card and mine downloaded over 2mbps and hers downloaded at 1.2mbps. I had the same results in Dallas, Portland, Vancouver Wa... Could you please rerun the tests??? I dont really think they tested these at all. I never drop below 1mbps in Wichita falls TX, where At&t doesnt offer 3g.
So now there are four people all sleeping in the same bed? I'm so confused. It must be one big bed.
One of the guys was ticking off all the others because he wanted to keep the light on to read his magazine. Another had already taken off his horn rimmed glasses and just wanted to sleep. Another wore his mock turtleneck to bed because he was cold. The last guy was cold too and wanted to invite his buddy Luke Wilson to bed for spooning purposes but the other three surprisingly voted that idea down.
I can answer this to an extent since the last 2 phones before my iphone were the tilt2 (2 months) and the tilt (almost 2 years). The iphone 3GS is much faster, has fewer dropped calls AND has never frozen in the one one month I have used it - compared to the daily tilt freezes.
My wife is also on ATT and she has a Sony Ericsson Cybershot C905 phone and it drops at least if not more calls than the iphone.
But what I have realized since I got the iphone is that I am WAYYYYY more likely to be on the web and use data services than ever before. Before my tilt I had a Blackberry curve for a short time and NEVER used the web browser. Not once that I can remember. I used the navigation may be once and the rest was just email....
I am pretty sure the folks who are negative on the iphone are on networks that do not have the iphone and it's a case of 'sour grapes'. It's plain and simple....the usual.
Also, it's nothing new that ATT 3G is faster. ATT is faster, Verizon has more 3G coverage. Where I live in Northern VA, ATT service is solid and I see LOTS of folks with iphones. I am yet to see a single person with a Nexus One. NOT ONE! I guess the service in my area is good enough that if you want a smartphone the most obvious choice is to get an iphone....unless you're on a verizon contract, then you get a droid or blackberry. 99.99% of Droid users are ex blackberry users and not iphone converts. So that is the story in a nutshell...ATT continues to reap the benefit of their arrangement with Apple. End of story.
@Jack but all the previous phones with the problem are the ones people bitch about. I know tons of people with non-iPhone 3G phone on AT&T and have no troubles, and yet in my same area, people complain about their iPhone dropping calls. How can I have service for years and count dropped calls on one hand when people with the same service pass me up with dropped calls in one hour? hmmm...must be the phone, or they live in an elevator.
I own one unlocked iPhone 3G and i've tested it with different carriers, and one thing I can say for sure: it is one of the worse cellphones when it comes to signal reception.
Places where I get 2 or 3 bars of signal with the iPhone i lose signal frequently or stay with 1 bar only.
But the dropping calls issue I think it's a AT&T issue, because besides losing signal easily, it's something that actually doesn't happen with my carrier.
if you drop to 0 bars, you lose the call...that's generally how it works. If you just drop to 1, then yes, it should hang on...but if in your experience, the iPhone has terrible reception, like I've been saying here all along, then in places where coverage is already generally weaker (yes, it DOES happen, to ALL carriers), you'll go from 2 bars or so, to 0 and drop a call. I've never dropped a call and then looked at my phone and had a bar. It's always been from being in an elevator, or a basement level of a hospital, or something like that where I have no signal strength. AT&T doesn't just drop calls when you still have reception.
@jaffreywali I have an iPhone, have been on AT&T for 5 years, I hate both the phone and the network. Now I am an Apple fanboy, love my MacBook. But the iPhone software is so damn bad. No multitasking. The awful proprietary app store. The cluttered, non customizable homescreen. The lack of download capabilities in safari. The lack(probably permanently) of flash support. The fact that there is no facebook integration whatsoever without a third party app. The lack of document editing w/o a 3rd party app. The lack of any way to hook up my iPhone via USB to my mac and drag over files(mass drive functionality) No video recording for the 3G even though there are apps that can do it proving it can be done. And if you say most of tat can be remedied by jailbreaking, well yes, but that decreases performance, cydia is a mess, it makes updates difficult, and anyway I shouldn't have to hack & void the warranty on my phone to use a lot of the functionality. And crashes? I have a somewhat broken iPhone 3G, not the 3GS, but it crashes on an hourly basis. And yes, I do restart it almost every day.
And yet I have none of those problems, and I never had. Not with my original iPhone, and not with my 3GS. Are you going to ignore that too? Don't forget that you haven't heard from the literally millions of people who aren't having problems. You're only hearing from the few who are. Relatively speaking, they're a very small percentage of iPhone owners.
iCello, your complaints are pretty strange. Calling the iPhone's homescreen cluttered is... well, it's basically suggesting that you don't know what the word cluttered actually means. 16 icons in a grid. Cluttered? Really? Your other complaints are mostly from the viewpoint of somebody who wants a laptop, not a phone. And if your iPhone is crashing, restore it. Mine doesn't crash and never has, and almost nobody else's does either. Believe me, we would have heard about it by now if it were some common issue.
What you're doing is basically complaining that you can't drive your washing machine to work. If you want a laptop, buy a laptop.
@Michael Scrip I'm with you on that. My iPhone is a completely different beast in Houston versus at home in Austin. Its blazing fast in Houston, downtown Austin....its sloooooooooooooooow and with SXSW coming to town....its gonna totally suck. Thats the network, not the device. The chart above is pretty useless. It depends where on the each carriers network you are.
@iCello my windows mobile phone did everything you want. I used to think like you until I got an iPhone. It's a game changer. The app store is fantastic!
@sumx4182 So wait, you are saying that in a study where the iPhone was used to show that ATT had better speeds and reliability that somehow proves the iPhone is the problem? That makes no sense whatsoever.
@metaesapuet This report is somewhat inaccurate. If you'll look at the 2009 report, it appears ATT was the deadlast carrier in terms of coverage/3g/ and customer satisfaction. Report: http://bit.ly/att-deadlast-carrier-report-survey
@sumx4182 After 10 years in the wireless industry I can tell you that just isn't true. A major cause of dropped calls is actually too much coverage. In other words, interference from a cell tower that you're not using. This typically happens with uneven terrain, like a large valley. A tower from the other side of the valley can interfere with signal from the nearby tower, causing a call to drop with full signal strength.
Cell networks are unbelievably complex. Engineers try to balance coverage so there are no gaps between cell towers, but also so that they don't step on each others toes too much. Add to that the fact that the effective radius of a tower varies based on the number of users connected, and it makes engineering a reliable network a modern miracle.
I have used my iPhone 3G in the US and UK. It was a launch system. Reception was far more consistent in the UK over the course of a week (especially on Orange and 3, not so much on O2) than it has ever been here in the US.
It's as much an issue with the iPhone as tethering is - AT&T's network investment is not keeping pace with their phone sales and resultant profits.
I still think there some buildout issue, but I've wondered about the other AT&T smartphones as well.
I'd wager, though, that it's due to the rest of their phones using far less intensely data-based OSs - those customers use their devices more like dumbphones.
(I know. Irony, right? Many levels, too.)
We'll see how things look once ATT starts pushing some 'droid.
@Michael Scrip To honest, when my iphone drops a call its when I'm talking to somebody using an iphone as well. And this is in switzerland using swisscom with a ridiculous high coverage pretty much everywhere, even remote spots in the alps..
So yes, I've always felt that the iphone atennae arent quite up to snuff compared to other phones. But it could be much worse.
@sumx4182 - Been saying it forever, CDMA SUX AZZ and is pseudo 3G. There is EDGE coverage in parts of the country that beats those lame EVDO numbers. Sayin...
@rand Agreed. In Austin, when I did have the iPhone, it was HORRIBLE. I dropped 30-50% of my calls, and I had 5 iPhones. It was definately the network (others with 3G phones told me theirs dropped all the time too).
I still have friends with AT&T and they tell me that, while their 3G reception has gotten better, they drop about 30% of their calls.
I am no Sprint now, and consistently out speedtest.net anyone with an iPhone, and have dropped about 3-5 calls in about 6 months. I am never looking at my signal mid-call like I used to with AT&T, wondering when my 3G would give out and I would drop the call.
Austin's 3G sux with AT&T. If you think you have good service with AT&T here, you haven't tried anyone else to know what you're missing.
At&T might have the best according to PCWorld. But, if I'm out in the middle of nowhere with a broken-down car (for any plausible reason) and AT&T's superior signal is not around me in a 20-mile radius, I'm not gonna be with them much longer.
Living in Texas, traveling through country roads that are lined with nothing... this situation is reality for some people who want to be at the top of the pack with the highest of high-tech and who cannot easily relocate to a metro area.
@MYB87 Nope. As you might recall in our March/April test ATT was ranked the lowest both in performance and reliability. Same tests. Same cities. Same locations. Same equipment. Same tested (me).
ATT was VERY unhappy last time ... these tests simply are what we really see in the field when tested side by side.
@Michael Scrip you dont hear about the iPhone's dropped calls in other countries because the U.S. simply has infrastructures that cannot handle the ammount of traffic they are getting. I live in Canada (Toronto to be specific) and in the last 5 years (1 year on an iPhone 3G and the other on a 3GS all the others on dumbphones) I have had no dropped calls that have happened outside of an elevator. But then again, its a lot easier to build infrastructure for a country with it's total population 33 million, rather than the US's 330 Million or whatever it is these days.
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I'm pretty sure AT&T will use this somehow on their "terribly unfunny" commercials.
@metaesapuet but they'll be accurate if nothing else.
FINALLY, as soon as the Nexus or another good Android phone gets to AT&T people will see that it's not the service, it's the crappy iPhone with it's inefficient radio/antenna. Funny how most other people with a 3G phone on AT&T don't complain.
@sumx4182 -- "people will see that it's not the service, it's the crappy iPhone with it's inefficient radio/antenna."
Then how come we don't hear about iPhones dropping calls in other countries?
@sumx4182 i had an iphone and i didnt experience none of those issues. i guess maybe because i am in a major market(chicago). i have a blackberry now and still no drop calls. but i might be the blame for using every piece of 3g speed i could get my hands on lol. 3g abuser i am :)
cough... cough.. this is a commercial
a handful of cities and the network speed there won't make AT&T the best, the need coverage beyond this list. can't really rely on this survey to conclude anything about the networks... sorry AT&T, i don't see any substance in this...
@Michael Scrip
http://www.iphonealley.com/news/iphone-3g-getting-bad-reception-you039re-certainly-not-alone
@sumx4182
Yeah, no. That myth was debunked a long time ago by doing extensive testing against other phones in a different country. The iPhone antennas are fine. For example, I have 5 bars all the time in my area, and I never drop calls. How do you explain that?
@Jack
Apple corrects the problem in later batches quietly, not wanting to disturb it's precious public opinion.
@sumx4182
In other words, people aren't actually having this problem. Because in your own words, Apple fixed it. But did they? Look a little harder at that article you linked to:
To sum it up:
• There is no conclusive answer
• 3G may just be overwhelmed
• iPhone may just have a terrible antenna (other AT&T phones work just fine)
• Some are claiming a 'poor batch' of iPhones being sold early on
• Apple has yet to make claims of hardware issues
In your mind, do the words "no conclusive answer" somehow mean "the iPhone has terrible reception"? Would you care to explain how you made that leap of logic? We know that the iPhone accounts for 50% of ALL mobile traffic in the US, and that is 100% on AT&T. We also know that it's been bogging down their network and that they're working on fixing it.
Does it not seem reasonable then, to assume that the issues here are due to AT&T's network, and not the iPhone, especially in the face of overwhelming evidence that the iPhone is not the problem? Are you aware that in known AT&T trouble spots like New York, ALL phones on AT&T's network are having the same issues? Give it some thought.
These results seem very wrong to me. I have tested my Sprint card versus my sisters At&t card and mine downloaded over 2mbps and hers downloaded at 1.2mbps. I had the same results in Dallas, Portland, Vancouver Wa... Could you please rerun the tests??? I dont really think they tested these at all. I never drop below 1mbps in Wichita falls TX, where At&t doesnt offer 3g.
@Michael Scrip
You dont?
@metaesapuet
So now there are four people all sleeping in the same bed? I'm so confused. It must be one big bed.
One of the guys was ticking off all the others because he wanted to keep the light on to read his magazine. Another had already taken off his horn rimmed glasses and just wanted to sleep. Another wore his mock turtleneck to bed because he was cold. The last guy was cold too and wanted to invite his buddy Luke Wilson to bed for spooning purposes but the other three surprisingly voted that idea down.
@metaesapuet
And they would be TOTALLY JUSTIFIED in doing so.
You heard it here. AT&T ranks #1.
As an iPhone user I completely agree. You verizon fanboys can cry all you want but you can't deny THE FACTS.
@Jack
I can answer this to an extent since the last 2 phones before my iphone were the tilt2 (2 months) and the tilt (almost 2 years). The iphone 3GS is much faster, has fewer dropped calls AND has never frozen in the one one month I have used it - compared to the daily tilt freezes.
My wife is also on ATT and she has a Sony Ericsson Cybershot C905 phone and it drops at least if not more calls than the iphone.
But what I have realized since I got the iphone is that I am WAYYYYY more likely to be on the web and use data services than ever before. Before my tilt I had a Blackberry curve for a short time and NEVER used the web browser. Not once that I can remember. I used the navigation may be once and the rest was just email....
I am pretty sure the folks who are negative on the iphone are on networks that do not have the iphone and it's a case of 'sour grapes'. It's plain and simple....the usual.
Also, it's nothing new that ATT 3G is faster. ATT is faster, Verizon has more 3G coverage. Where I live in Northern VA, ATT service is solid and I see LOTS of folks with iphones. I am yet to see a single person with a Nexus One. NOT ONE! I guess the service in my area is good enough that if you want a smartphone the most obvious choice is to get an iphone....unless you're on a verizon contract, then you get a droid or blackberry. 99.99% of Droid users are ex blackberry users and not iphone converts. So that is the story in a nutshell...ATT continues to reap the benefit of their arrangement with Apple. End of story.
@Jack but all the previous phones with the problem are the ones people bitch about. I know tons of people with non-iPhone 3G phone on AT&T and have no troubles, and yet in my same area, people complain about their iPhone dropping calls. How can I have service for years and count dropped calls on one hand when people with the same service pass me up with dropped calls in one hour? hmmm...must be the phone, or they live in an elevator.
@sumx4182
I own one unlocked iPhone 3G and i've tested it with different carriers, and one thing I can say for sure: it is one of the worse cellphones when it comes to signal reception.
Places where I get 2 or 3 bars of signal with the iPhone i lose signal frequently or stay with 1 bar only.
But the dropping calls issue I think it's a AT&T issue, because besides losing signal easily, it's something that actually doesn't happen with my carrier.
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I disagree, my service with AT&T was bad and I never had an iPhone. It sucked with the Pantech Duo, LG Incite, and Samsung Jack.
@kgod0wnz
if you drop to 0 bars, you lose the call...that's generally how it works. If you just drop to 1, then yes, it should hang on...but if in your experience, the iPhone has terrible reception, like I've been saying here all along, then in places where coverage is already generally weaker (yes, it DOES happen, to ALL carriers), you'll go from 2 bars or so, to 0 and drop a call. I've never dropped a call and then looked at my phone and had a bar. It's always been from being in an elevator, or a basement level of a hospital, or something like that where I have no signal strength. AT&T doesn't just drop calls when you still have reception.
@jaffreywali I have an iPhone, have been on AT&T for 5 years, I hate both the phone and the network. Now I am an Apple fanboy, love my MacBook. But the iPhone software is so damn bad. No multitasking. The awful proprietary app store. The cluttered, non customizable homescreen. The lack of download capabilities in safari. The lack(probably permanently) of flash support. The fact that there is no facebook integration whatsoever without a third party app. The lack of document editing w/o a 3rd party app. The lack of any way to hook up my iPhone via USB to my mac and drag over files(mass drive functionality) No video recording for the 3G even though there are apps that can do it proving it can be done.
And if you say most of tat can be remedied by jailbreaking, well yes, but that decreases performance, cydia is a mess, it makes updates difficult, and anyway I shouldn't have to hack & void the warranty on my phone to use a lot of the functionality.
And crashes? I have a somewhat broken iPhone 3G, not the 3GS, but it crashes on an hourly basis. And yes, I do restart it almost every day.
@Michael Scrip
Cause they don't surf and talk at the same time. They actually have conversations with whom they call.
@sumx4182
And yet I have none of those problems, and I never had. Not with my original iPhone, and not with my 3GS. Are you going to ignore that too? Don't forget that you haven't heard from the literally millions of people who aren't having problems. You're only hearing from the few who are. Relatively speaking, they're a very small percentage of iPhone owners.
iCello, your complaints are pretty strange. Calling the iPhone's homescreen cluttered is... well, it's basically suggesting that you don't know what the word cluttered actually means. 16 icons in a grid. Cluttered? Really? Your other complaints are mostly from the viewpoint of somebody who wants a laptop, not a phone. And if your iPhone is crashing, restore it. Mine doesn't crash and never has, and almost nobody else's does either. Believe me, we would have heard about it by now if it were some common issue.
What you're doing is basically complaining that you can't drive your washing machine to work. If you want a laptop, buy a laptop.
@Michael Scrip I'm with you on that. My iPhone is a completely different beast in Houston versus at home in Austin. Its blazing fast in Houston, downtown Austin....its sloooooooooooooooow and with SXSW coming to town....its gonna totally suck. Thats the network, not the device. The chart above is pretty useless. It depends where on the each carriers network you are.
@iCello
my windows mobile phone did everything you want. I used to think like you until I got an iPhone. It's a game changer. The app store is fantastic!
@sumx4182
Actually, it has more to do with the iPhone's battery saving system. By constantly dropping the connection to save juice, the AT&T network is struggling to handle the run on the signaling channels. Ars Technica had a very good write-up about this problem recently: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/02/how-smartphones-are-bogging-down-some-wireless-carriers.ars
@metaesapuet
Yep, AT&T must be breaking out Luke Wilson now.
Wait, didn't PCWorld and Novarum say last year that Verizon and Sprint were the best and fastest, while AT&T was the worst? I could have sworn...
Oh yeah:
http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=167391&page=1&zoomIdx=1
@sumx4182 So wait, you are saying that in a study where the iPhone was used to show that ATT had better speeds and reliability that somehow proves the iPhone is the problem? That makes no sense whatsoever.
@metaesapuet This report is somewhat inaccurate. If you'll look at the 2009 report, it appears ATT was the deadlast carrier in terms of coverage/3g/ and customer satisfaction. Report: http://bit.ly/att-deadlast-carrier-report-survey
@Michael Scrip
that's wrong.
Apple has been in lots of trouble in France too for dropping calls.
Of course it was stated that Orange was to blame...
@metaesapuet
Quick, someone convert this chart into a map and tell iPhone/AT&T haters to eat it.
@sumx4182 After 10 years in the wireless industry I can tell you that just isn't true. A major cause of dropped calls is actually too much coverage. In other words, interference from a cell tower that you're not using. This typically happens with uneven terrain, like a large valley. A tower from the other side of the valley can interfere with signal from the nearby tower, causing a call to drop with full signal strength.
Cell networks are unbelievably complex. Engineers try to balance coverage so there are no gaps between cell towers, but also so that they don't step on each others toes too much. Add to that the fact that the effective radius of a tower varies based on the number of users connected, and it makes engineering a reliable network a modern miracle.
@metaesapuet 3G means absolutely DICK when I can't make a phone call from my house on their crappy service.
I have used my iPhone 3G in the US and UK. It was a launch system. Reception was far more consistent in the UK over the course of a week (especially on Orange and 3, not so much on O2) than it has ever been here in the US.
It's as much an issue with the iPhone as tethering is - AT&T's network investment is not keeping pace with their phone sales and resultant profits.
@sumx4182
I still think there some buildout issue, but I've wondered about the other AT&T smartphones as well.
I'd wager, though, that it's due to the rest of their phones using far less intensely data-based OSs - those customers use their devices more like dumbphones.
(I know. Irony, right? Many levels, too.)
We'll see how things look once ATT starts pushing some 'droid.
@Michael Scrip To honest, when my iphone drops a call its when I'm talking to somebody using an iphone as well. And this is in switzerland using swisscom with a ridiculous high coverage pretty much everywhere, even remote spots in the alps..
So yes, I've always felt that the iphone atennae arent quite up to snuff compared to other phones. But it could be much worse.
@Elranzer
That was last year, this is this year. welcome to it.
@sumx4182 - Been saying it forever, CDMA SUX AZZ and is pseudo 3G. There is EDGE coverage in parts of the country that beats those lame EVDO numbers. Sayin...
@rand Agreed. In Austin, when I did have the iPhone, it was HORRIBLE. I dropped 30-50% of my calls, and I had 5 iPhones. It was definately the network (others with 3G phones told me theirs dropped all the time too).
I still have friends with AT&T and they tell me that, while their 3G reception has gotten better, they drop about 30% of their calls.
I am no Sprint now, and consistently out speedtest.net anyone with an iPhone, and have dropped about 3-5 calls in about 6 months. I am never looking at my signal mid-call like I used to with AT&T, wondering when my 3G would give out and I would drop the call.
Austin's 3G sux with AT&T. If you think you have good service with AT&T here, you haven't tried anyone else to know what you're missing.
Where the hell is Dallas/Fort Worth on that list? How does a metropolis of 6 million people not make the list?
Crazy, man.
@metaesapuet
What is funny is that Consumer Reports ranked AT&T at the bottom of all 3G carriers in the US.
But Engadget didn't report on that story, even after it was tipped to them.
@sweet greggo
Yes, or Houston. Either would be nice.
At&T might have the best according to PCWorld. But, if I'm out in the middle of nowhere with a broken-down car (for any plausible reason) and AT&T's superior signal is not around me in a 20-mile radius, I'm not gonna be with them much longer.
Living in Texas, traveling through country roads that are lined with nothing... this situation is reality for some people who want to be at the top of the pack with the highest of high-tech and who cannot easily relocate to a metro area.
@MYB87 Nope. As you might recall in our March/April test ATT was ranked the lowest both in performance and reliability. Same tests. Same cities. Same locations. Same equipment. Same tested (me).
ATT was VERY unhappy last time ... these tests simply are what we really see in the field when tested side by side.
@Michael Scrip you dont hear about the iPhone's dropped calls in other countries because the U.S. simply has infrastructures that cannot handle the ammount of traffic they are getting. I live in Canada (Toronto to be specific) and in the last 5 years (1 year on an iPhone 3G and the other on a 3GS all the others on dumbphones) I have had no dropped calls that have happened outside of an elevator. But then again, its a lot easier to build infrastructure for a country with it's total population 33 million, rather than the US's 330 Million or whatever it is these days.
@reapur Dude, it's not about you and your house.
@sumx4182 Im pretty sure every company finds public opinion precious
@metaesapuet Of course we can't over a look JD Power's report stating the complete opposite :-)
http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.com/2010/02/call-quality-down-for-smartphones-verizon-high-customer-rankings-says-jd-power.html
@c w j What would that have to do with network speed?
@Ordeith2 That was on servace not speed your not making sense at all