Whether you wanna call it the affordable high end or the really supercharged midrange, ATI has decided that there is a space to be filled between its scorching
5850/
70 cards and the only somewhat slower
5770 SKU. So let's all meet the $239 HD 5830, shall we? As is par for the
Evergreen course, it's a 40nm DirectX 11 card, and while it matches the 2.15 billion transistor count of the 5850, the new contender makes do with only 16 ROPs and 1,120 stream processors. To compensate for that processing loss, the core clock is raised to 800MHz while maintaining the 1GHz memory speed of the elder 5850. If this sounds like the 5830 will basically be composed of 5850 chips that didn't quite make the high grade, good, because that's exactly what's happening. Internet reviewers have already had some time to play around with ATI's latest card, and if we can draw a consensus, it would be that while the performance is pretty much spot on between its nearest siblings, the price is that little bit too steep to make the HD 5830 an easy recommendation.
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posted February 25th 2010 3:56AM
I just made a friend order an HD5770...
Ah well, it'll take weeks before this thing is properly available anyway.
@Coptician I knew the 5830 was coming this week and I ordered (and received) my 5770 anyway. For $174 shipped I get to have crysis warheads run at 1600x1200 with enthusiast settings and descent framerate. I could also add another 5770 later on for crossfire if there is a need since each 5770 only takes one 6 pin express-pci power, unlike the 5800 series. And when the 5770 is crossfired, you get performance that is higher than 5850 and at about that price. So, bottomline, I wouldn't sweat it. The 5770 is a solid performer.
@Coptician Dont worry, the 5830 is way too expensive anyway.
It's a bit strange that it consumes more power at load than the 5850.
:/
Great looking card, though.
@FAP FAP FAP Not really if you look at the clock speeds. That, obviously, does more for the power draw than the number of shader units.
@FAP FAP FAP I was actually thinking it looks like someone stuck part of Bumblebee's arm on top...
I meant great looking card - Hardware wise. :|
Holy fuck I want this
@AlexSanchez
Isn't that the most awesome HSF you've ever seen on a GPU? I mean holy hell that thing looks beast!
@AlexSanchez
Agreed that's a pretty unique view for a GPU
If anything it wins the award for most absurd and tasteless looking piece of kit.
Okay, Nintendo ... put that bad boy into the Wii HD and have it ready for the holidays.
@Meekermoloko
Their target audience doesn't "appreciate" HD, remember?
Can I haz Millenniumz Falconz in my puter plez?
@jpxdude
Pew Pew
Is it possible to use ATI cards to get 7.1 LPCM over HDMI + HW-accelerated video playback on Linux yet (using XBMC)?
Last time I checked (about 6 months ago) only Nvidia could do that but things change quickly.
Maybe my next HTPC build will have an ATI card. Nvidia needs more competition.
the design looks so awesome, reminds me of my childhood :3
ATi (AMD) is kicking a** and taking names. I think the 5850 is the best bang for buck you can get right now - $300 and you get almost the best there is. The 5870 costs around $400 which isn't worth another $100 for the improvements it offers over the 5850, but I think an extra $60 to get the 5850 over this new 5830 is totally worth it. When the new nVidia Fermi chips launch they'll cost probably over $500 both of them. ATi FTW. AMD has always offered the best bang for buck and that's why I will always support them.
Hmmm.. I was looking for something amazing. The HD4890 even beats this.
@(Unverified)
If you want something that beats 4890 and is affordable, then I'd recommend 5850. If you got money to burn, go for 5870.
PS: I own a 4890 (hopefully, not for long ;) )
@(Unverified)
actually, the 5770 is effectively a die shrink of the 4890 with directX 11 support, they both have the same texture and pixel filtrates, but the 5770 draws about 80% less power.
The 5830 is about 32% faster than a 4890, and draws 8% less power
@ksmith
Your numbers are way off. The 5830 is actually slower than a 4890, and the 5770 is much slower than both of them.
@(Unverified) The HD4890 has a 3 times higher idle power consumption...
@(Unverified) Yes it even beats it at idle with its 60+ wattage compared to the 25W of the 5830...
@bluefisch200
Ah I see, I didn't realize that my card was drawing so much power compared to newer iterations. Probably costing me an arm and a leg.
With this card, ATI's line is complete. And NVIDIA still needs to launch their first card! Am I dreaming?? Wow! Go ATI!
Well, AMD still hasn't filled the market niche for 'fast, single-slot graphics card that fits in my Shuttle XPC'. Still waiting for one of these card to be fitted with a single slot cooler or something like the Sapphire Ultimates of yore
@Blumkoli Of course they did. "Fast" is very relative, you know...
I'm sorry but the design of this thing is a joke...
@Amnesia87
I think it looks pretty sweet.
@Amnesia87 Yes it is but why care? Are you one of those victims with a window in the side panel of your computer? Ha Ha!
Engadget, you supply links to half the other review sites but you don't include Benchmarkreviews? Here's the link for anyone that's interested...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=469&Itemid=72
The -830 series have this "cheapskate" vibe, being hotter an less efficient than a -770, without the top end performance of an -850. That cooler does nothing to dispel that notion.
Does this card output to all four outputs simultaneously or is it an either/or type of thing?
@incendy
Nevermind, one of the reviews says "three configurations".. Which is perfect for what I need to do
This is a really nice card for the price, but gives new meaning to the term fugly.
If only this card could work in my Mac Pro 2009...
@Denus
Fail.
@ ScentOfUnderstanding (hum)
Nice epic fail comment.
@Denus
DOUBLE FAIL!!
Thanks for the meta review. I enjoy the quick summaries you give.