Valtteri Halla -- Nokia employee and one-half of
MeeGo's Technical Steering Group -- has blogged up a storm this week about the first baby steps that'll get the platform off the ground from its
Moblin and
Maemo roots, and from the sounds of things, we'll be able to get our first glimpse at it on production hardware before the month's out. Currently, the plan is to open up MeeGo's code repository to all comers "by the end of this month," targeting both
Atom boards and the
N900. Now, we certainly wouldn't say that MeeGo's decision to use the N900 as an early target device is indicative of an official upgrade down the line -- but this is particularly interesting in light of the fact that we've never gotten a commitment out of Nokia to bump its latest MID to
Maemo 6. And besides, considering that the average N900 customer is a bit of a hacker in his or her own right, let's be honest: a code repository that supports the phone is just about as good as an official gold build anyhow.
posted March 4th 2010 7:12PM
MeeGo. That's one clustercuss of a name. Good luck!
Yeah, and I can't stop thinking of the line said Josh on the MWC podcast:
"I am Meego, the alien!"
@Brendan H What? You don't like the name? How about calling MeeGo phones Lego phones?
@jussipussi
There is some funny article about names of platforms
http://degustators.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/about-names-and-sales/
And its will be a FREE update
U dont have to pay 9.99
Sent From My N900
Seeing "MeeGo" my first thought is always this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migo
@oGMo wow, that is actually pretty cool. The Mi-go would make a hell of a mascot for MeeGo. It would underline it's sheer power and extraterrestrial awesomeness.
why did I just think of T-Mobile?
@JeremyBenthem
iDontcare
Nokia have previously released "hacker editions" of newer Maemo versions for older tablets.. OS2008 (used on the N810) has a hacker edition version for the first tablet, Nokia 770.. but it isn't great.. and doesn't stand up to every day end user use.. I have a feeling this is going to be the N900 Maemo6 hacker edition..
Until its available via NSU or FOTA, I don't think end users should get excited.. and that may never happen
fingers crossed, though!
@7710user Indeed
but this quote "..average N900 customer is a bit of a hacker..." he forgot to point out that we are also handsome bunch...
@Mr w00t Indeed :)
its rediculous. what a monstrosity!
Nokia is cool and all plus the OS platforms are great but I hope someday they think of a better name for the OS...ffs...
@Plazmic Flame thats what i sais why not Meamin
*sigh*.... my n900 got messed up real bad a few days ago... screen cracked internally.... big ass hole smack dab in the middle of the screen... plus it got super dark. sent it in today to get a replacement... hope all goes well. that phone is epic on so many levels
@skyblaze
I thought you had a Droid?
@SolidSnake
nope. all tmo here. got an android dev phone, touch pro 2, n97, and what used to be an n900... plenty to fall back on but the n900 was the best of them by far... to me anyway
@skyblaze I wish you the best of luck with dealing with Nokia, I have dealing with them since December 5th. My first issue was to get my factory defective phone replaced (which they had me buy a second phone, then return the defective phone), they received the phone on January 19th and I have not been refunded my money. I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and yesterday I got a call from the office of the executive vice-president of Nokia (that is how the woman identified herself) telling me that they are working on my issue and appreciate my patience, she also confirmed that they had received the complaint I filed.
Finally, i love my N900.
It excels exceptionally in some cases, but not enough proper apps.
@Cynical Hippie
My exact feelings about the phone.
I get a lot of Wows from friends but as a heavy user there just isn't much to heavily use except the fantastic browser.
Strange that they would go from maemo to meegoo, is it the same thing?
@Hydra Maemo 6 == MeeGo
@Mr w00t is that actually correct?
@cashclientel "Harmattan, originally slated to become Maemo 6, the 6th incarnation of Nokia's Maemo mobile operating system, is now considered to be a MeeGo instance (though not a MeeGo Product), ..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo
"MeeGo 6.0 Harmattan: Bundled officially supported Qt libraries, Begins the transition to MeeGo. Previously known as Maemo 6."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo#Future
A bit more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXK9XFolwTM
As far as naming conventions go? Yes. M6 is MeeGo.
I gotta stop watching so much hockey. As soon as I read "Valtteri" I immediately thought of Valtteri Filpulla.
It'll be interesting to see how this MeeGo turns out. I actually returned my N900 after Intel and Nokia announced the merge of Maemo and Moblin. It left me with a bad taste and figured I should play it safe and return the $500+ device while I still could. I just can't imagine MeeGo being much of a success, and really, the name sucks.
@dicrism
I'm sending my N900 back tomorrow, actually. Not because of the device itself or its OS, but because of the T-Mobile coverage and lack of a worthwhile Ovi Maps app. We supposedly have 3G coverage here in Raleigh on T-Mobile, but good luck trying to get anything above a couple of bars of GSM inside a building.
@cmunic8r2 Why didn't you get an unlocked N900? In long term it is always cheaper that way. Remember, _there_is_no_free_lunch_ and someone has to pay the price of the phone. The talk time and data aren't cost free either - infrastructure and deployment cost huge money and someone i.e. the customer in the end has to pay for it.
@stoffer My N900 is unlocked - bought it from Amazon. The two problems are: 1) it will only do 3G on T-Mobile's netowork, and 2) I've missed half a dozen calls - in the office and at home - because signal coverage sucks inside. This in areas their coverage map says gets "Good" voice coverage and "3G" data coverage.
voice: http://bit.ly/ahQbEs
data: http://bit.ly/bT6Mbu
come on nokia, save palm and just buy webos......its the perfect strategy....
@sky2earth
yes. I have a Pre that I got on launch day but currently use an N900 most of the time (the Pre is my work phone). I love both operating systems, but they each have their strengths. webOS strengths include synergy, the notification system, etc. I feel as though Maemo is a better OS but it's far too "linuxy" for the average user out there (not that I care, at all). Nokia and Palm are my two fav mobile companies so if they were to combine forces it would be something out of a dream for me.
@sky2earth
Though WebOS is good, Nokia'd be more interested in Palm's patent portfolio then another OS to spend resources on.
It's a step in the right direction, but what about ovi maps?
I'm getting tired of beating this dead horse nokia.
Android says: "MeeGo - No Go!" :)
@AndroidFreewareORG
MeeGo replies: "MeeGo - You Stay!"
@AndroidFreewareORG
Android has strength in numbers, but Maemo is by far the better operating system. I have very high hopes for MeeGo.
@Broderbund well, then let's see what will remain from Maemo after the merger. As for now Maemo has dropped its (Debian-based) packaging system in favor of Moblin's RPM package management...
@AndroidFreewareORG Indeed, otherwise it could not be recognized by the Linux Foundation "child" of Linux instead of some fork (like Android). RPM is not my fav, but hey, at least they will maintain compatibility. Try the new Google Maps (only available for Nexus One) for other devices and you will understand the decision. ;)
I kinda dont understand what you mean with, "let's see what will remain from Maemo after the merger". Python and Qt? Check. Ovi? Check. Clutter? Check. All other Apps but ported to MeeGo? Check.
The underlying OS will be MeeGo, what services sit on top of it and what apps will run will be decided by the vendor and the user.
@AndroidFreewareORG Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXK9XFolwTM
Around 4:00
@Mr w00t watched the vid, sounds very confusing for now with all that compatibility mess. Let's see what they will come up after all. As of the device itself, N900, it's a crap in my opinion. In the end of 2010 they guys are coming up with a resistive touch screen!? Cannot understand how people are getting so excited about this brick, the screen makes it barely usable.
@AndroidFreewareORG As you said, it is your personal taste.
I had an iPhone, prior to N900, and when my wife uses both she much prefers the N900's screen. Also you cant use iPhone with gloves, N900 you can.
About the device thickness, yes you are totally right. Some people might think that I am always... hm... "happy", when I put in my front pocket. Again for me, not a problem since I just HATE not having a keyboard. I hated inputing text in iPhone and I barely use the virtual keyboard in N900...
The screen makes it barely unusable? Sorry mate but, do you love screens or what? The device is very capable (heck, it even runs Mac OSX) It is like me saying that Nexus One is shit just because it doesnt have a keyboard. Gotta look beyond that dude...
@Mr w00t dude, may I ask you where are you from? North pole or what? ;) Don't tell me that you or your wife is using gloves in day-to-day life. What do you mean if I love screens? The screen is the FIRST human-machine-interface on that kind of touchscreen devices, you can miss hardware keyboard there or vibration feature, but you must have a good and responsive screen. The N900's screen is pain in the ass, the responsiveness and smoothness of gesture recognition is bad. Sometimes you have to make the move two or three times before the phone responds. If you are used to iPhone, Pre or G1 you'll need to apply a bit more pressure on the screen of N900. Resistive touchscreen is so much yesterday. It even makes worse that the Maemo5 interface uses such a small controls and icons. I catch myself so often pulling this damn stylus to spot a button. Reminds me very much of Windows Mobile's Pocket PCs (HTC Touch) when they made the move from using stylus to the finger input just after release of the iPhone.
@AndroidFreewareORG hehe Well, sadly we do use gloves every damn day :P I live in Europe and right now I am in between France, Denmark and Russia. Meaning, gloves all the time and no tan. :P
I mean that you really do seem to like the interaction with the screen, and as you stated before, is a matter of personal taste. I would prefer a less sensitive screen, like in the N900 that not every little mistaken gesture is computed, but that would give me the crispiness of an AMOLED or Super AMOLED (dunno the names).
I suppose you are North American, and it strikes me a lot that you guys love capacitive (with some exceptions) and here in EU I see the opposite (exceptions applied).
Pay attention to the next Nokia device, it will have a capacitive (yuck!). ;) It will blow your mind if this is what you dig.
Peace :)
@Mr w00t have any idea why these geeks at Nokia attached the tilt stand on the back of the device? Like, "Oh, our touchscreen sucks but look, we attached the tilt stand! Take THAT Apple!"
@AndroidFreewareORG To maintain the "tablet" identity (remember that Maemo originated from Nokia's tablets). Nokia has also marketed the device as a mobile computer (whether you agree or not is up to you).
Again man, touchscreen does not suck :) They made a very good job in actually making a decent resistive touchscreen.
But besides this debacle of whether the touchscreen is good or not, thickness of device and so on... Nokia has made very good impression with the geek community, you know, the kind of guys that actually build apps, letting them have total control over the hardware. The amount of tinkering with this device is huge and gave Nokia back its momentum. Again, just wait and see what forgeries. ;) You WILL be surprised.
@futurerheza what for? the apps are not compatible between MeeGo/Maemo/Moblin and Android
This is kinda unrelated, but if I download a Linux program and put it on an N900, would it still run?
@Lucas not if you're downloading x86 binaries.
@kansei they have an emulator or something for that.