Man, before you guys say other stupid stuff, as someone who works on cell phones, you have to realize that it takes 100 engineers, tens of millions of dollars, and years to develop and integrate new cellular technology. Verizon has some, but not complete say in what chip manufacturers work on. So one good reason that Verizon says that this won't happen is because no one is out there working on a GSM+WCDMA+LTE+WiMax solution. For the most part, people think WiMax is a dead technology (everyone except Sprint, it would seem). Screw the customer, screw the carriers, if you want a tape player that plays VHS + Betamax, you're out of luck. Stop whining about it.
@rsteshenko Yeah, thanks for the carriers' perspective...for those interested in it (eye roll). The short answer is: "shad' up monkey. Bend over and take it."
Next up, I'm going to ask for the perspective of HMOs, cable companies and every other cartel industry.
@rsteshenko When you say you work on cell phones you must mean that you sell them at the mall. Bill Morrow mentioned today, during Sprint's keynote, that there is already a company making LTE+Wimax chips.
I hate when people say LTE is a dead tech. The old beta max analogy is ignorant. Beta-max tapes were never meant to be made by the company that makes the players. So wimax towers will work with wimax phones, just like Hyundai parts magically fit on Hyundai cars.
And have you been in a VZW store lately?? Samsung, LG, HTC, Motorola and every other major manufacturer besides RIM makes Sprint and Verizon phones seperate. There is only one phone that Sprint and VZW sell thats identical thats not a blackberry. So if every phone company ALREADY MAKES SPRINT AND VZW seperate how is Wimax vs. LTE gonna change anything???
Not to mention LTE WiMax dual mode chips are coming, every 3G GSM phone uses CDMA and TDMA, and Sprint released several CDMA/ Iden phones already.
Funny how people are calling the fastest growing 4G standard dead... LTE isnt even finished being born yet..
Check the list of networks you sent and read it. They're mostly 802.16d (fixed old wimax versions...) not covering even 1 complete city per country. Wimax is used for broadband access where no instrastructure is present. Check the number of subscribers of WiMAX in the world... and look what they use WiMAX for... it's freaking fixed low capacity cheap connection.
Wimax it's not 4G. Please read 3GPP or 3GPP2. Neither LTE is 4G. This is the biggest scam for telecom consumers I've seen in my life.
Of course, there will never be WiMAX convergence to LTE. It's impossible. Both use OFDMA.. yes! so what??? The problem are patents and world's almighty telecom standard producer, 3GPP, which by no means need to be compatible to WiMAX. WiMAX is small, will survive in the US. But differently to what happened with CDMA IS-95, at least now you guys will have AT&T and Verizon, and if you're wise you can keep up with the rest of the world.
Check CES 2010 in Barcelona, the most important telecom event in the world... did you see any (at least 1) telecom provider even mentioning WiMAX? Analyze guys and touch ground.
If you're going to be an ass, you might as well try reading what I wrote. I'm talking from the chip manufacturer's perspective, not the carrier. You do realize that Verizon doesn't actually manufacture anything themselves, right?
By work on cell phones, I mean develop them. Jesus, now I wonder why I'd bother to try and edumacate you people. No wonder there isn't much intelligent content here in the comments. You'd rather just belittle those giving you information than take the time to internalize what they're saying.
@contreras ok obviously u dont know a darn thing about wimax... the 802.16d is a software version that is UPGRADEABLE to the latest version... there deploying those towers that are UPGRADEABLE just like sprint... they alrdy have over 40mbps in labs sustainable on the new standard... if u need over 40mbps on a cell phone what are u doing... i bairly have that on my highest price home connection from cr@pcast... o and wimax and lte are compatable wimax works on the same freqs as lte for the most part so
@rsteshenko You didn't educate anyone. You said something that was false. And I showed you how it was false. You're not the only person who works in the tech sector btw.
"Beceem is the only company to provide a 4G chip which has support for both WiMax and LTE standards, meaning that they remain a potential candidate for future handsets from both Apple and Verizon."
Okay, they are the only company out there making this combo chip. Does any cell phone out there contain a chip made made these guys? Unlikely. Will this chip also support WCDMA and GSM for areas where there is no LTE/WiMax coverage? Unlikely. Do you know anything about this product at all, besides the fact that some CEO mentioned it once to cover up the fact that WiMax is going to die? Unlikely.
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Man, before you guys say other stupid stuff, as someone who works on cell phones, you have to realize that it takes 100 engineers, tens of millions of dollars, and years to develop and integrate new cellular technology. Verizon has some, but not complete say in what chip manufacturers work on. So one good reason that Verizon says that this won't happen is because no one is out there working on a GSM+WCDMA+LTE+WiMax solution. For the most part, people think WiMax is a dead technology (everyone except Sprint, it would seem). Screw the customer, screw the carriers, if you want a tape player that plays VHS + Betamax, you're out of luck. Stop whining about it.
@rsteshenko
Yeah, thanks for the carriers' perspective...for those interested in it (eye roll). The short answer is: "shad' up monkey. Bend over and take it."
Next up, I'm going to ask for the perspective of HMOs, cable companies and every other cartel industry.
@rsteshenko well atually if wimax was dead tech they why would the rest of the world be using it ass.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/02/17/wimax-growth-in-the-us-lags-worldwide-growth-explodes/
@rsteshenko When you say you work on cell phones you must mean that you sell them at the mall. Bill Morrow mentioned today, during Sprint's keynote, that there is already a company making LTE+Wimax chips.
@rsteshenko as "someone who works on cell phones" you ought to see how many countries and networks are using WiMAX:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deployed_WiMAX_networks
@rsteshenko
I hate when people say LTE is a dead tech. The old beta max analogy is ignorant. Beta-max tapes were never meant to be made by the company that makes the players. So wimax towers will work with wimax phones, just like Hyundai parts magically fit on Hyundai cars.
And have you been in a VZW store lately?? Samsung, LG, HTC, Motorola and every other major manufacturer besides RIM makes Sprint and Verizon phones seperate. There is only one phone that Sprint and VZW sell thats identical thats not a blackberry. So if every phone company ALREADY MAKES SPRINT AND VZW seperate how is Wimax vs. LTE gonna change anything???
Not to mention LTE WiMax dual mode chips are coming, every 3G GSM phone uses CDMA and TDMA, and Sprint released several CDMA/ Iden phones already.
Funny how people are calling the fastest growing 4G standard dead... LTE isnt even finished being born yet..
@rsteshenko Completely untrue... Someone could buy my Sony VHS VCR off me... So they arent totally screwed.
@HurricaneDC
Check the list of networks you sent and read it. They're mostly 802.16d (fixed old wimax versions...) not covering even 1 complete city per country. Wimax is used for broadband access where no instrastructure is present. Check the number of subscribers of WiMAX in the world... and look what they use WiMAX for... it's freaking fixed low capacity cheap connection.
Wimax it's not 4G. Please read 3GPP or 3GPP2. Neither LTE is 4G. This is the biggest scam for telecom consumers I've seen in my life.
Of course, there will never be WiMAX convergence to LTE. It's impossible. Both use OFDMA.. yes! so what??? The problem are patents and world's almighty telecom standard producer, 3GPP, which by no means need to be compatible to WiMAX. WiMAX is small, will survive in the US. But differently to what happened with CDMA IS-95, at least now you guys will have AT&T and Verizon, and if you're wise you can keep up with the rest of the world.
Check CES 2010 in Barcelona, the most important telecom event in the world... did you see any (at least 1) telecom provider even mentioning WiMAX? Analyze guys and touch ground.
@Johnny Tremaine
If you're going to be an ass, you might as well try reading what I wrote. I'm talking from the chip manufacturer's perspective, not the carrier. You do realize that Verizon doesn't actually manufacture anything themselves, right?
@Ricky
By work on cell phones, I mean develop them. Jesus, now I wonder why I'd bother to try and edumacate you people. No wonder there isn't much intelligent content here in the comments. You'd rather just belittle those giving you information than take the time to internalize what they're saying.
@contreras ok obviously u dont know a darn thing about wimax... the 802.16d is a software version that is UPGRADEABLE to the latest version... there deploying those towers that are UPGRADEABLE just like sprint... they alrdy have over 40mbps in labs sustainable on the new standard... if u need over 40mbps on a cell phone what are u doing... i bairly have that on my highest price home connection from cr@pcast... o and wimax and lte are compatable wimax works on the same freqs as lte for the most part so
@rsteshenko You didn't educate anyone. You said something that was false. And I showed you how it was false. You're not the only person who works in the tech sector btw.
@Ricky Do you Beceem?
"Beceem is the only company to provide a 4G chip which has support for both WiMax and LTE standards, meaning that they remain a potential candidate for future handsets from both Apple and Verizon."
Okay, they are the only company out there making this combo chip. Does any cell phone out there contain a chip made made these guys? Unlikely. Will this chip also support WCDMA and GSM for areas where there is no LTE/WiMax coverage? Unlikely. Do you know anything about this product at all, besides the fact that some CEO mentioned it once to cover up the fact that WiMax is going to die? Unlikely.