We know which one
we'd rather take -- but alas, we came packing the meager 4GB card in our personal phone as we sauntered up to SanDisk's booth at a CTIA press event this evening, not that juicy
32GB bad boy right above it. At the top there you can see the silicon that goes into each and every 32GB microSDHC to come out of the foundry, and it's pretty insane: 8 layers of 32nm 3-bit-per-cell memory. The SanDisk rep we spoke to said that other companies not capable of pulling off the 8 layer trick will be at a significant disadvantage, since they'll need to go with a higher density at the brutal cost of a lower yield rate -- and as we all know, a chunk of silicon that's failed QA is little more than a paperweight (and not a very effective one at that). We'll take three.
Is this thing going to go up to Class 6?
@thevoiceless
My exact thoughts. I've got a class 2 16GB in my phone now, it's brutal trying to fill it with music. I really want to stay at class 6 or better moving forward. Sorry Sandisk, call me when you've got the 32GB class 6's for $199 or whatever you were spewing about launch price.
@thevoiceless
With X3 MLC? I doubt it. All this stuff is good for is mass storage, not any reasonable performance. Personally, I'd be more worried about data integrity than performance. X3 has a much higher error rate than X2...
@Level 5 I've been looking for a decent class 6+ 16GB for my phone seems they can be had for around $50-70 depending on brand. Certainly a better option than a $200 32GB class 2 in my opinion. For half the price I can be bothered to swap a card once in a while for a total of 32GB of storage.
@KAL326
Not me, I run a Nexus One, which requires the battery removed (thus the phone rebooted as well) to swap. Not smart on the design really. Most HTC WinMo phones can stay on with the battery out when it's plugged in, not so on the Nexus.. oh well. A 32GB card is in my future regardless when Class 6 is out and the price isn't for the criminally insane.
Ding ding
Just wondering, but the silicon could simply be melted and purified to be used again, couldn't it? I'm not very educated on the subject obviously, just kind of curious what they would do with the failed product.
@dez they may be able to melt it and reuse it, but that's not the expensive part. Silicon chips are made many at a time on waters, which are slices from big cylindrical pieces of silicon. The tricky part is that those cylinders are all one giant silicon crystal, with every single atom perfectly aligned in a crystaline structure. Growing a new crystal from raw silicon is incredibly difficult and expensive. Its pretty interesting, actually.
Three paperweights or three chunks of silicon that failed QA?
:-)
WIN
Wow I wonder witch one's better...
YOU BETTER NOT LOSE THAT.
@ZaxCG2
reminds me of
http://xkcd.com/691/
@glenskey
That was actually exactly what I was thinking about when I posted the comment. Thanks for doing the work for me in getting the link.
These 32gb card make the SSD drive look cheap.
@cdf74dc9
Cheap as in price.
@cdf74dc9 I just got a New Samsung 128Gb SSD for £190. Was worth it.
What does this cost? Around $100?
@JCreazy $200. It's right in the link to the post Engadget did earlier.
@Jacob1
That is rediculous. It shouldn't cost that much
@JCreazy
Just rediculous.
@forrealdood
A) It's "ridiculous". Please everyone learn how to spell that word.
B) How is $200 for a 32GB microSD card ridiculous? Sandisk's 64GB Cruzer USB sticks list at $260, which is basically the same idea (both are the newest of that class of memory devices). If you need the highest capacity, $200 is pretty cheap!
@junktrunk
I was making fun of the person before me thank you.
It'll go well with my new EVO, what with all those high def videos I'm gonna download onto it.
who needs to download on that hot thing...just strea.m over wimax :)
3 bit per cell technology is shaky at best, and I highly doubt these have a cycling count over 1k, probably not even 500 being that the Samsung 32nm process node memory found within it was rushed in order to be the first to market with it. Let's just say, you better hold on to your receipt kiddies because you should DEFINITELY expect fails. I'm not trolling, just truthing.
@Caedo
I've had MANY microSD's fail, so I whole-heartedly agree with you. Luckily for me, most of the stuff I put on these huge cards is media, so it's easily replaced off of my desktop. It's still a pain in the ass though, and Sandisk isn't very swift with a warranty exchange. They do however, offer a 5(!) year warranty, always good.
I think its because the silicon is now inside the plastic casing and extracting it is a waste of resources
Wake me when it supports class 6 features. This is a perfect size mSDHC for devices like a 1080p helmet cam...but completely useless as a class 2.
This is the first. Later will be faster, more reliable etc. It took me 18 months to buy a 16 gig for my sansa clip plus, it works great. I think its class 6 cause I wanted it to be fast. My first MP3 player was an Intel with a massive 128 mb Maybe 12 songs at a reasonable bit rate. My sansa has almost 2000 cuts at very decent bit rates. Battery consumption has become an issue but it addresses the following cuts quickly. I just plug it in every evening like my cell phone.
Regarding the chips that fail; I can only imagine how dense the thing is, it has be completely unprofitable to extract anything from the ground up "chips", silicon is like sand, the "impurities" that create the different potentials to make the memory work, I'm not sure what they are but they are what does the stuff. I am not sure of the correct terminology for the parts of the devices. I do know that when military spec is not achieved for CPUs and such the devices are still able to be sold in civilian use, this is much different I'm sure.
What? No side by side comparison gallery? Come on engadget!
to bad we cant use this with win phone 7
@addamlh indeed...
I have a Nokia n900 with 32 gb of internal memory, I use mainly as a backup for files that I want from my work and home pc. Recently I bought a 16 Gb so I could have it just for music, but I have tons of it. I am really thinking about having one of these 32Gb cards (as soon as the price drops a buch ;)
already said before....16gb class 10 far better buy then this.
Wow! How much porn ones needs in a phone..
Anyone remember when 4GB was A LOT of storage?
@pickleJar It is a lot
@pickleJar I paid like 120 and 20 dollars for a 4gb flashdrive, back when that mattered, I always remember that stupid flashdrive, I got a 4gb microsd for like 6 bucks and an 8gb micro for like 15 bucks, man, looking back on that flashdrive it was huge and ugly and 120 dollars I'd go further back, but man it's so weird, back when a 1gb flashdrive was top of the line. so much money wasted...
@Chuuchdizzle
Crazy how fast tech is growing.. We barely appreciate what we got now.
Take 4 I'd like one please.
I'll buy it at $200.... Just get them in the stores!