@glenskey The iPad is definitely catering to the iPhone crowd who sees mobile gaming as something that is suppose to be quick, painless and cheap. $5 bucks here, $6 there, impulse purchases when you're bored. When I buy a game on the DS or PSP I expect a full immerse experience most of the time. When I buy a game on my iTouch or cell phone I really just want something quick and fun I can play while on the go to kill a little time.
@Proverb So far one of my main gripes with the iPad is the fact that developers scale their game to new resolution and think it makes them 600-900% more valuable. Hopefully the market will begin to adjust as more games/apps start pouring out. I refuse to pay the early adopted tax these guys are trying to exploit. There are plenty of decent games for free, as well as other stuff to keep me entertained for a bit.
@RLBurkes The same thing happened with consoles as well. "Oh look were making the jump to HD our games now cost 10 dollars more!" Only the Wii has kept the $50 dollar price point.
@Proverb Expensive now. I'm wondering when the entire crazy sale madness thing starts. When christmas rolls around and a ton of more adopters appear, supposedly cheap ones at that, then I'm expecting more people to drop prices. And I totally understand whats being said about the fact that ds and psp games are a ton more expensive, but people who buy those devices are wasting their money if they aren't willing to spend bigger bucks on games. iPad owners on the other hand are a totally different and bizarre audience. I consider myself an active gamer, but I've only once ventured into getting a game for more than 2 dollars, and I've been very discouraged to try that again.
@Proverb Welcome to the Apple-supported gold-rush. Y'see what happens in a gold-rush is you get people who know that the best way to be noticed in a new market is to have your app out first. To get it out first, you compromise on quality, features, design, basically everything just to get it out the door.
But the idea is to make money so you charge as high a price as you think you'll get away with. What are iPad owners going to do? Buy a competing app that's better but not finished yet? Nope, they will splurge on your junk for the new toy and so begins the same descent in the waste pile yet again, except apps in this waste pile cost 10x the price.
I don't mind paying for junk on my iPhone because the apps are usually $0.99 or something, who cares. When it's $9.99 for the same junk but bigger, well then there's a problem.
Games made for the iPhone are very weak. They just have no substance. You can tell from the video with Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber playing mirror's Edge. Some graphics look ok but there's no thought put into the gameplay whatsoever.
Street Fighter 4 was cool - would like to see a video of that on iPad but again the game is way too short.
@Proverb There are plenty of free crappy games if that's what you want instead. $10 for a good game is very reasonable. About the same as downloadable content on consoles. Cheaper than most PSP/DS games. If you want to quit your job and develop a really good iPad game to sell for 99 cents -- go for it.
@glenskey - considering how most console or PC games are done by 50+ people over the course of years, instead of 2-3 people within a month or two like an iPhone/iPad game, yes - they're EXPENSIVE. Hugely so.
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Holy crap these apps are expensive.
@Proverb
more expensive than a console or psp game?
@Proverb Its all going to depend on the market, if people are willing to pay then these prices will stay, if not then they'll drop.
@glenskey The iPad is definitely catering to the iPhone crowd who sees mobile gaming as something that is suppose to be quick, painless and cheap. $5 bucks here, $6 there, impulse purchases when you're bored. When I buy a game on the DS or PSP I expect a full immerse experience most of the time. When I buy a game on my iTouch or cell phone I really just want something quick and fun I can play while on the go to kill a little time.
@Proverb So far one of my main gripes with the iPad is the fact that developers scale their game to new resolution and think it makes them 600-900% more valuable. Hopefully the market will begin to adjust as more games/apps start pouring out. I refuse to pay the early adopted tax these guys are trying to exploit. There are plenty of decent games for free, as well as other stuff to keep me entertained for a bit.
@RLBurkes The same thing happened with consoles as well. "Oh look were making the jump to HD our games now cost 10 dollars more!" Only the Wii has kept the $50 dollar price point.
@Proverb I agree, Proverb. Sheesh you can get Bioshock for $20 on Steam but they want $10 for iPod Scrabble? That's crazy.
@Proverb Expensive now. I'm wondering when the entire crazy sale madness thing starts. When christmas rolls around and a ton of more adopters appear, supposedly cheap ones at that, then I'm expecting more people to drop prices. And I totally understand whats being said about the fact that ds and psp games are a ton more expensive, but people who buy those devices are wasting their money if they aren't willing to spend bigger bucks on games. iPad owners on the other hand are a totally different and bizarre audience. I consider myself an active gamer, but I've only once ventured into getting a game for more than 2 dollars, and I've been very discouraged to try that again.
@Proverb What you flipping burgers for a buck fifty an hour or something?
$9.99 a VAST FORTUNE, call the bank, take out a second mortgage.
@Proverb Welcome to the Apple-supported gold-rush. Y'see what happens in a gold-rush is you get people who know that the best way to be noticed in a new market is to have your app out first. To get it out first, you compromise on quality, features, design, basically everything just to get it out the door.
But the idea is to make money so you charge as high a price as you think you'll get away with. What are iPad owners going to do? Buy a competing app that's better but not finished yet? Nope, they will splurge on your junk for the new toy and so begins the same descent in the waste pile yet again, except apps in this waste pile cost 10x the price.
I don't mind paying for junk on my iPhone because the apps are usually $0.99 or something, who cares. When it's $9.99 for the same junk but bigger, well then there's a problem.
Games made for the iPhone are very weak. They just have no substance. You can tell from the video with Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber playing mirror's Edge. Some graphics look ok but there's no thought put into the gameplay whatsoever.
Street Fighter 4 was cool - would like to see a video of that on iPad but again the game is way too short.
@Proverb
There are plenty of free crappy games if that's what you want instead. $10 for a good game is very reasonable. About the same as downloadable content on consoles. Cheaper than most PSP/DS games. If you want to quit your job and develop a really good iPad game to sell for 99 cents -- go for it.
@Proverb
Steve says you will pay and you will.
@glenskey considering there a lot of psp games you can download off the psn under 10 this is pricey. Also i though all psp games where free.
@Proverb I know! thank god for the $35 DS games, the $50 xbox games and the $60 PS3 games, you are so right.
@glenskey - considering how most console or PC games are done by 50+ people over the course of years, instead of 2-3 people within a month or two like an iPhone/iPad game, yes - they're EXPENSIVE. Hugely so.
@RLBurkes You're worried about the earlier-adopter tax on these game titles but not on the iPad itself?
"Penny smart and dollar stupid" comes to mind.