Totally. The iPhone/iPod touch jailbreak brought about muiltitasking (Circuitous and ProSwitcher) and flash (imobilecinema on 2.x). Now there will be full access to the iPad's true potential, or at least enough to quiet those who hate.
@MrFairladyz This smells alot like the PSP - a fairly useless device unless it is unlocked, something sony is so determined to stop. The question I can't stop asking is WHY? both apple and sony WHY not just add support for this in the first place.
@synth Because, if they add flash and enable people to play online games then they lose money. People won't buy from the iTunes store. It's ALL about money.
@synth Why? Because they will loose big (i mean BIG) chunk of money.
Ppl dont realize whey they buy an apple product they pay x1000 more than they bought it... i got my iphone 3g for 300euros, i pay 40euros/mo for a shitty data... 40eur x 24mo (2 year constract) + 300eur+ 100eur in apps, accessories, etc. = u sum that. imagine after 1 year u want to change it for a 3gs...+ $$$$ + years of contract
want to make an app? 90$ + a mac.. i dont say i will not get this..maybe from ebay but it will be 2nd gen for sure. by then competition will be tight..
android is the future..for me at least (EVO here i come)
@m3nphls I think no Flash will release it's full potential. I've had Click-To-Flash (the flash blocker) installed for years, and never click to see the flash unless it's a video. Now, YouTube, CBS, ABC, Vimeo, NYT, Wall St. Journal, USA Today, and Kite (the company that does video for dozens of high-end websites) are getting away from Flash. Why? Because Flash is CLOSED. It's a wholly owned commodity locked down by Adobe. Why is it OK for Adobe to own the codec for video on the web in a world where everyone complains about "openness"?
@jimmylittle Nice complaint about Flash not being open. Apple doesn't like Adobe because it is wants to be the only closed platform. For a one time fee you can use flash for whatever you want, as many times as you want. To develop for I devices, you pay one time for the sdk toolkit, and then again every time you want an app approved. And you pay everytime you sell an app. And you "have to" sell through the app store, unless you're selling to the jailbroken audience. Flash has security issues...but obviously so does the ipod OS. Bottom line is the two companies don't get a lone, and Apple is waiting for the new HTML rev. If people stay patient, it seemingly will be worth it. But what happens when web games designed for html5 are released on the apple store as apps? Will Apple be afraid people will find the inconvenience of bookmarking free webgames more valuable than a built in 1.99 or 4.99 native app?
Right, because native app development and Flash are the only conceivable ways to get onto an iPhone OS device, right? It's not like Apple has been (sometimes almost violently) pushing open web standards that anyone with so much as a text editor can use since the original iPhone keynote, right? And it's a good thing, too, because if anyone found out about that and started developing web apps, Apple would surely find some way to lock that down to prevent lost revenue, right?
@MrFairladyz brought flash movie streaming only not flash for websites. you'll see so many question marks in the webpages with your ipad, your retina will have them imprinted
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Now we will see the full potential...
@maherelharake
No Flash = No Full Potential.
@maherelharake
Totally. The iPhone/iPod touch jailbreak brought about muiltitasking (Circuitous and ProSwitcher) and flash (imobilecinema on 2.x). Now there will be full access to the iPad's true potential, or at least enough to quiet those who hate.
@m3nphls
The same thing could be said about Flash with it not being available on the most popular mobile platform in the world.
No iPad/iPhone = No Full Potential
@MrFairladyz
This smells alot like the PSP - a fairly useless device unless it is unlocked, something sony is so determined to stop. The question I can't stop asking is WHY? both apple and sony WHY not just add support for this in the first place.
@synth Because, if they add flash and enable people to play online games then they lose money. People won't buy from the iTunes store. It's ALL about money.
@synth Why? Because they will loose big (i mean BIG) chunk of money.
Ppl dont realize whey they buy an apple product they pay x1000 more than they bought it...
i got my iphone 3g for 300euros, i pay 40euros/mo for a shitty data... 40eur x 24mo (2 year constract) + 300eur+ 100eur in apps, accessories, etc. = u sum that.
imagine after 1 year u want to change it for a 3gs...+ $$$$ + years of contract
want to make an app? 90$ + a mac..
i dont say i will not get this..maybe from ebay but it will be 2nd gen for sure. by then competition will be tight..
android is the future..for me at least (EVO here i come)
@m3nphls I think no Flash will release it's full potential. I've had Click-To-Flash (the flash blocker) installed for years, and never click to see the flash unless it's a video. Now, YouTube, CBS, ABC, Vimeo, NYT, Wall St. Journal, USA Today, and Kite (the company that does video for dozens of high-end websites) are getting away from Flash.
Why? Because Flash is CLOSED. It's a wholly owned commodity locked down by Adobe. Why is it OK for Adobe to own the codec for video on the web in a world where everyone complains about "openness"?
@jimmylittle
Nice complaint about Flash not being open. Apple doesn't like Adobe because it is wants to be the only closed platform. For a one time fee you can use flash for whatever you want, as many times as you want. To develop for I devices, you pay one time for the sdk toolkit, and then again every time you want an app approved. And you pay everytime you sell an app. And you "have to" sell through the app store, unless you're selling to the jailbroken audience. Flash has security issues...but obviously so does the ipod OS. Bottom line is the two companies don't get a lone, and Apple is waiting for the new HTML rev. If people stay patient, it seemingly will be worth it. But what happens when web games designed for html5 are released on the apple store as apps? Will Apple be afraid people will find the inconvenience of bookmarking free webgames more valuable than a built in 1.99 or 4.99 native app?
Right, because native app development and Flash are the only conceivable ways to get onto an iPhone OS device, right? It's not like Apple has been (sometimes almost violently) pushing open web standards that anyone with so much as a text editor can use since the original iPhone keynote, right? And it's a good thing, too, because if anyone found out about that and started developing web apps, Apple would surely find some way to lock that down to prevent lost revenue, right?
Oh wait. Never mind.
@MostAmazing Wrong, it's the small developers who will lose money but what the hey, I hear they're hiring at McDonalds.
Apple != Sony
@elvinu For your information phone and data service is not free no matter what platform you choose
@MrFairladyz
brought flash movie streaming only
not flash for websites.
you'll see so many question marks in the webpages with your ipad, your retina will have them imprinted