@fourthletter And the google Nexus one carries (£114.505) $174.15 Materials Cost, iSuppli states. On amazon the nexus one retails for £599.99 so they are making 50-60% profit too. Your comment is invalid.
You also need to adjust for labor and engineering costs; of which Apple will say brings the actual unit cost to around $10,000. So, you know, the iPad is a bargain!
@MoonWalkerCTE You correct, Every company does this, On top of that amount you have to add, years of R&D & labor during development, packaging design and cost, promotional & advertising, delivery, warranty returns, In the end, there's no where near the profit that people think there is.
@MoonWalkerCTE You can't compare an off-contract phone and a device like the iPad. The reason they put the price on the Nexus One so high is to discourage people from buying without a plan.
Also, Apple makes a ton of profit on their app sales even after their massive hardware profit.
Maybe you just don't realize how much money it costs to do this kinda stuff, okay so it costs 259 to build it plus man labor plus shipping to the states then shipping to the stores, paying for all the ships and trucks, paying for the employees to run the stores, paying rfor the electricity, heating and Internet for the store, pay the people who designed it who write software who update it...
@MoonWalkerCTE that's the price for an UNLOCKED device. Compare price of locked devices vs locked devices. Also, I just checked your link and you GAVE us the highest prices out of all. You know, not many people are as stupid as the ones upranked you for decieving and mislabeling info.
@MoonWalkerCTE the parts cost that much but licensing for the antenna array is quite expensive not to mention the licensing for using exchange support and all the other licensing costs that there are... where as apple just ignores that
@Liquidmark No, his price isn't accurate because he compared it to the most expensive seller on amazon whereas there are other sellers from the UK with better ratings and for cheaper for the same phone. And yes, i meant non-subsidized but we're comparing apples to oranges. Compare the iphone with the nexus one. Not the iPad with the Nexus one. Two different products for different markets.
@chrisrottan So what? $499, being Apple's MSRP, is the most expensive price for the 16 GB iPad. You will get it for less from other retailers soon, at $489, $475... and probably for $433 from Amazon after Christmas (cf iPod Touch prices).
@abugida Yes but it's a crippled device with many features, hardware and software wise the nexus one has over the iPad. So, if you want to be fair, compare the Nexus to the iPhone. Don't be a fanboy
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And this is not just for apple products. All Companies do this....
@MoonWalkerCTE
Except most compnaies squeeze 15% from their customers as profit not Apple's usual 40% which with the iPad is looking more like 50%.
@fourthletter And the google Nexus one carries (£114.505) $174.15 Materials Cost, iSuppli states. On amazon the nexus one retails for £599.99 so they are making 50-60% profit too. Your comment is invalid.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Htc-Nexus-One-Google/dp/B00332YPHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1270650496&sr=8-1
http://www.isuppli.com/News/Pages/Google-Nexus-One-Carries-$17415-Materials-Cost-iSuppli-Teardown-Reveals.aspx
@fourthletter You should check what overhead costs mean.
@fourthletter
You also need to adjust for labor and engineering costs; of which Apple will say brings the actual unit cost to around $10,000. So, you know, the iPad is a bargain!
Oh, those magical geniuses...
@MoonWalkerCTE
You correct, Every company does this, On top of that amount you have to add, years of R&D & labor during development, packaging design and cost, promotional & advertising, delivery, warranty returns, In the end, there's no where near the profit that people think there is.
@MoonWalkerCTE You can't compare an off-contract phone and a device like the iPad. The reason they put the price on the Nexus One so high is to discourage people from buying without a plan.
Also, Apple makes a ton of profit on their app sales even after their massive hardware profit.
@fourthletter
Apple is not bad on this one, i used to work in the hardware industry and the markup was between 75% and 160%
And they weren't products that involved R&D like a tech gadget with a huge touchscreen.
@fourthletter
Don't attack him
Maybe you just don't realize how much money it costs to do this kinda stuff, okay so it costs 259 to build it plus man labor plus shipping to the states then shipping to the stores, paying for all the ships and trucks, paying for the employees to run the stores, paying rfor the electricity, heating and Internet for the store, pay the people who designed it who write software who update it...
I mean it really does add up guys
@MoonWalkerCTE
...but not all companies have the same amount of profit...
@MoonWalkerCTE
that's the price for an UNLOCKED device.
Compare price of locked devices vs locked devices.
Also, I just checked your link and you GAVE us the highest prices out of all.
You know, not many people are as stupid as the ones upranked you for decieving and mislabeling info.
@MoonWalkerCTE the parts cost that much but licensing for the antenna array is quite expensive not to mention the licensing for using exchange support and all the other licensing costs that there are... where as apple just ignores that
@chrisrottan
>that's the price for an UNLOCKED device.
I think you mean 'non-subsidized'. That's the non-subsidized price of the Nexus One. Moonwalker's comparison is accurate.
The iPad is ALSO non-subsidized. He's comparing the iSuppli sourced estimated component cost and final prices of two devices.
I think I'll borrow his links.
@drksilenc
"licensing"
I don't see anyone factoring in associated costs when dealing with the iPad. Why should the Nexus One get special treatment?
@Liquidmark
No, his price isn't accurate because he compared it to the most expensive seller on amazon whereas there are other sellers from the UK with better ratings and for cheaper for the same phone. And yes, i meant non-subsidized but we're comparing apples to oranges.
Compare the iphone with the nexus one. Not the iPad with the Nexus one. Two different products for different markets.
@chrisrottan
So what? $499, being Apple's MSRP, is the most expensive price for the 16 GB iPad. You will get it for less from other retailers soon, at $489, $475... and probably for $433 from Amazon after Christmas (cf iPod Touch prices).
@abugida
Yes but it's a crippled device with many features, hardware and software wise the nexus one has over the iPad.
So, if you want to be fair, compare the Nexus to the iPhone.
Don't be a fanboy