Nokia C2 render spins QWERTY right round
By Sean Hollister 
posted April 27th 2010 10:57PM
posted April 27th 2010 10:57PM
posted April 27th 2010 10:57PM
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Literally "qwerty" since with only six keys per row, that's as all the letters you get.
@Eli Haj it's a half-qwerty... split in half!
@nak Fail, never seen a half qwerty before?
@nak I've had my Nokia 6820 with the same 50/50 keyboard layout for 6years now and I say NOTHING beats it for typing fast. The layout (with the screen in the middle) gives it the perfect balance.
On a side-not: a phone holding 6 years in "not so easy" conditions (I'm an alpine ski racer) can't be said for many phones...
And yes I will get a new phone, smartphones just haven't been a thing for me due to stupid shitty camera, unreadable in sunlight, crappy video playback, roaming bills (the EU need to do something about it! It's nice that we can agree how large a strawberry needs to be though...). Samsung Galaxy S is looking sweet.
Awesome DOA reference.
Like a record, baby!
@aubreyq
you mean Flo Rida reference. Noone except old ugly people remember dead or alive.
"You spin me right round, baby, right round, in a manner depriving me of an inertial reference frame. Baby."
First sentence doesn't work. Shoulda got Josh to write this post
@Murphys Law it"s a render of a dumphone. They should have let one of the young interns have a crack at this one.
BTW I don't see anything wrong with the first sentance
@Murphys Law Indeed is the same usual nokia bashing... getting tiresome.
But this phone does look dreadful. Of course some happy people will buy it and think it is wonderful. Like the owners of a Ford Ka.
NO! Please... NO!
@Cheetoh
You get that from girls a lot?
@Alexicov I see what you did there. Aha.
For the love of god and all that is holy.. Please no!
It's clearly a MS Paint "fan render". Nokia never typesets their name in caps on official documents, plus "display 240 x 320 pixels" is missing punctuation. (or it's just really bad grammar)
(also I like how bad picture quality = leak in people's minds. I bet the straight .bmp wouldn't look as "convincing")
What Has Been Seen, Cannot Be Unseen.... oh the horror.
I doubt that this is an actual keyboard, cuz i would think that it would render the non-rotated position useless with the other (identically sized) half missing.
It does have gaming potential if the top keyboard included directional arrows and miscellaneous controls. N-Gage was weird, this could follow along the same lines of awkwardness (though cheaper, if it's from the C-line)
@artstate
The keys change dynamically based on the position of the screen.
The samsung alias 2 does something similar.. it uses e-ink to change the letters on the keys..each key is a tiny e-ink display.
Ya beat me to it... but yeah, e-ink buttons could make this a pretty cool idea.
I hope they plan to add more letters... :P
Fail render?
That looks goofier than their old 6800. I remember hating that keyboard even though there weren't many qwerty phones out at the time.
This is phone is going to fail, like Tim Tebow.
Ewww Nokia dumphone
Does http://www.engadget.com/exclude/DumbPhone/ work in Google Reader?
Time to finally pull the trigger.
Sadly, a lot of dumbphone articles don't get the tag.
@Johnny Rockets
http://mobile.engadget.com/exclude/dumbphone
Just gives me a white screen. Anyone else?
Damn it
@Johnny Rockets The exclude feature doesn't work in mobile or HD.
@engadgetcomexcludeengadget
Well that's lame. Why not?
That's ridiculous and annoying.
I'm only interested in mobile devices (so I subscribe to engadget mobile) but smartphones only, and I can't exclude dumbphones?
Blah!
@Johnny Rockets
What exactly is your defintion of a "smart" phone or "mobile device"?
All these phones can be had with FREE Navigation, native Instant Messaging client, native Social Networking client, native Email client, tether, have the ability to install applications, upgrade memory and all can multitask to varying degrees(yes, even S40).
@PDK
Don't bother, now-a-days, Smartphone=Touchscreen, no matter if it doesn't have even basic features like multitask, for example.
I mean, look at this sentence in the article "While the 'C' label puts the device squarely in dumbphone territory". Dumbphone??
AFAIK, (in the market other than the US at least) the definition is as thus:
Dumbphone: Basic Phone, with Radio, Color Screen and Flashlight at most.
Featurephone: Better Phones with extra features Java capabilities, camera etc, but no "smart OS" that allows non-Java apps. (I believe its called running apps "natively")
Smartphone: Feature phone plus smart OS that allows apps to run natively.
That link leads to an article about "C3, C6, and E5". Out of that, only C3 is a feature phone with S40, while both C6 and E5 run Symbian, which, while however much one hates it, still places them firmly in "smartphone" category. Heck, C6 even has a bloody touchscreen!
Also, that supposed "C2" doesn't have a split keyboard system, it has swivel screen. Look again, it says "rotation feature". Its is supposed to rotate 90deg to reveal the other half of the keyboard beneath it.
In any case, this is obviously fake, because we are supposed to believe that even in un-swiveled mode, it will have that half-of a qwerty keyboard sticking out, functioning as a bizarre numeric keypad. Really? just imagine the ungainly size of this thing.
@Ryzvonusef said:
"Don't bother, now-a-days, Smartphone=Touchscreen, no matter if it doesn't have even basic features like multitask, for example."
What part of the US are you from?! You make a foolhardy statement if you actually believe that.
"I mean, look at this sentence in the article "While the 'C' label puts the device squarely in dumbphone territory". Dumbphone??"
The reason he said it puts it in dumbphone territory is Nokia denotes the number after the series letter as a functionality/performance rating, with a scale of 1-9, with 9 being the highest. And the C3, already announced, is a featurephone. The C2, as its name suggests, will be below the C3 in functionality rating. Like me, he's just from the school that any device with a smart OS will outperform a featurephone, so it would seem out of line for it to be a Symbian device.
I think this device represents a generic concept layout, and possibly a real device. Many users have decried a lack of T9 portrait buttons on current devices, and this would open up for something like that with some eInk buttons.
The buttons can just be there as a placeholder until they decide what type of keymat layout would be best suited for the device, whether to include a DPad, etc. Nokia already went down this road with the E70, so it won't be anything new for them to have a T9/QWERTY convertible device.
Also, the three button layout is obviously Symbian derived. It looks like a 5800 variant, which leads me to believe this was just something Nokia was looking into as a concept. It would probably not carry the C2 name in production, would probably cost more to produce because of the moving parts, and would probably have a better camera without Carl Zeiss optics for cost reasons in production trim.
Lets see whether it ever comes to light.
AFAIK, (in the market other than the US at least) the definition is as thus:
Dumbphone: Basic Phone, with Radio, Color Screen and Flashlight at most.
Featurephone: Better Phones with extra features Java capabilities, camera etc, but no "smart OS" that allows non-Java apps. (I believe its called running apps "natively")
Smartphone: Feature phone plus smart OS that allows apps to run natively.
That link leads to an article about "C3, C6, and E5". Out of that, only C3 is a feature phone with S40, while both C6 and E5 run Symbian, which, while however much one hates it, still places them firmly in "smartphone" category. Heck, C6 even has a bloody touchscreen!
Also, that supposed "C2" doesn't have a split keyboard system, it has swivel screen. Look again, it says "rotation feature". Its is supposed to rotate 90deg to reveal the other half of the keyboard beneath it.
In any case, this is obviously fake, because we are supposed to believe that even in un-swiveled mode, it will have that half-of a qwerty keyboard sticking out, functioning as a bizarre numeric keypad. Really? just imagine the ungainly size of this thing.
@PDK
"What exactly is your defintion of a "smart" phone or "mobile device"?"
I consider a smartphone a device that was written about on Engadget Mobile that doesn't have the 'dumbphone' tag :)
@Johnny Rockets
I see, so you rather let some hack blogger classification (be it wrong or right) define a device for you. Regardless, of the actual true capabilities of the device?
@christexaport
I am not from the US :D
Hee hee... "...they're one whole leaked..." sexual inyourendos...
Geezz nokia ... I just so proud of you seconds ago with N8 ......sigh
This is why Nokia fails. Yeah, sure, its great that they're ballsy & willing to try new ideas, but not if all their ideas suck.
This is the same company who put a damn round dial pad on one of their first featured S60 smartphones (the 3650) & didn't even bother with having a dial pad at all on the 7380.
Seriously, Nokia. You suck.
You guys! This is a re-imagined N-Gage! It's a regular phone during the day, then flip the screen, and suddenly you have a complete customizable D-pad on one side, and the other action buttons on the other.
............... dream about it!
This specific product, which is one of many that Company X makes in various divisions and classes, is of no interest to me and clear evidence of Company X's impending downfall. I cannot imagine why they do not simply fire all of their employees and close up shop given my personal, individual assessment of this product. Because I am not interested, it is impossible that anyone else would be. Furthermore, I find it personally offensive that Company X would produce goods that appeal to people other than me. How dare they manufacture goods to suit broad tastes and needs? Me, me, me, me!
@inept
I hope this becomes Engadget-brand delicious copypasta.
Well the price should be below C3 which unsubsidized (no contract) is €90. So is this is real the pricepoint is below that. Samsung Alias 2 cost the same on two year contract and after rebates. Motosplit will cost at least €200 unsubsidized, probably much much more.
So the target segment of these phones is completely different.
You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
Right round, round, round
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The link above was the original version from 1985.
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@hated one What makes you think they're interested in the American crowd at all, let alone the young hip Americans....?
2 megapixel with Carl Zeiss?
they smoke too much?
@SKW
That was premium in 2005 with the N90, but seeing it now in a low end device wouldn't be far fetched. I just doubt it would be a C2 or a 2mp, but who knows...
So far, not one of these "document leaks" on YouTube has been remotely accurate. Compare the various ones over the past year to the actual N8 which was just announced.
Nokia: you need to stop wasting energy on nonsense, and build a phone with the basic specs and dimensions as an iPhone.
That is the standard.
You are doing the same thing you did with flip phones. You are trying to convince people that they do not want what they want.
You guys should not spend another dime until you offer a thin, capacitive, touch--screen phone (and the N8 is too fat; I don't care about 12 MP... I care about 2mm thinker than my E71).
This reminds me the BenQ-Siemens SK65.
@hated one
The Cseries isn't targeted at most Americans at all, at least not a majority of the smartphone buyers. They are more tailored for emerging markets and budget conscious demographics.