Samsung still hasn't managed to get the
Wave or any other
Bada handset to market yet, but it's doing the right thing by offering developers the software development kit first. Granted, with a planned June release Samsung isn't managing the same sort of massive lead-time that Microsoft has with its
Windows Phone 7 SDK, but a few weeks of pressure-free coding are better than none. The first public SDK for Bada was just made available yesterday, and inside developers will find an Eclipse-based IDE, a phone emulator, and tutorials. You can get it all for yourself at the source link below, but make sure you get your reading glasses out before clicking through. You'll need to agree to not one, not two, but
four separate sets of terms and conditions before you can get this 606MB download flowing, and a fifth before it'll install. Oh, and it's all C/C++ based, so if you've been living in the merry land of Java and C# lately you'd better brush up on pointer dereferencing and interface definitions.
[Thanks, Sacha]
posted May 7th 2010 9:16AM
today i've saw this telephone at the mediaworld of rome (italy) in prewiew...
It is telling to see how the largest manufacturers are deciding to stick with their own OS or develop one. I think Nokia have their work cut out for them to get Symbian & Ovi to rival Android's succes (MeeGo is different), but it seems doable given their resources and RD. For Samsung, even though they have great tech in their group of companies, I do not see them having enough clout in the smartphone space to pull this off. They are a fraction of Nokia in the Smartphone business, so they are really facing an uphill battle vis a vis Android.
@JFH
They can survive in S. Korea market even if this endeavor fails in the global market. It's still win/win for them and gives them better future maneuverability.
Wtf is C++... dat sh*t is old... C# and .net are da reigning sh*t now!!!
@PrivateFlank meantime less competition in C++ coding since herd is so thin now. Bang more bucks!
3 times i skimmed over this article and this stupid song popped up in my head each time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNfD4lqFjpQ
I welcome Bada to the phone OS landscape, mainly because I think webOS will at least be able to claim a higher market share of one OS with it around. :)
I'm planning on buying this phone. I don't see what all the hate is about... The apps? I rly don't give a crap, I don't see why that defines a phone (since i personally don't use more that two).
This phone is fast, sexy, has a amazing screen, simple interface, great browser speed + flash support, even manages to get b/g/n wifi and bluetooth 3.0 on board as nice little extras... oh and great camera also.
This whole app trend is getting a little dumb in my opinion, but i guess that's just me. I do encourage developpers to create quality and innovative apps, since the main problem out there is the fact that so many apps have NO PURPOSE
@artstate
Wait, app trend? Apps are one of the most important aspects of a platform. You want a platform with an extremely wide variety of software. iphone has the largest library, while android pretty much has all the equivalent good software minus all the shovelware that makes iphones app store 4x the size. It's why people like windows, access to the largest library of software and legacy software.
@Luffy
I think what he means is that nine-tenths of the applications are a waste of space and time and serve no real purpose.
The other one-tenth exist on every mobile phone operating system from Windows Mobile, to iPhone and eventually, to Bada.
App counts mean nothing and never have.
@xsacha i do agree with you on that . app count don't matter
10 thousand or whatever.. most of them are waste
i used to download whole bunch of apps with Iphone.. i noticed myself
i never really use them more than once or twice..
From the SDK:
"The bada platform is kernel-configurable so that it can run either on the Linux kernel or real-time OS kernels, which makes bada applicable to a wider range of devices than any other mobile operating system."
"A new UI framework is provided, which supports the next generation Samsung TouchWiz UI. Samsung bada also supports a control for Adobe®Flash®, a web browser control, motion sensing, fine-tuned vibration control, and face detection, which open up new possibilities for greater creativity and user interactivity. Samsung bada introduces several new service-centric capabilities that differentiate it from conventional mobile operating systems. The various service-centric features such as social networking, content management, location-based services, and commerce services –are all supported by back-end bada servers."
@xsacha i heard they will support push technology for emails and other
messaging like facebook. gtalk etc.. not sure if that is true..
Samsung has their own phone OS? Really? Do people like it?
IMO, Windows Phone 7, Android & iPhone = Market is full. Sorry Samsung & Nokia!
@iamdeadfish let me guess you're from North America based on your answer "Windows Phone 7, Android & iPhone = Market is full"
47% of the Market is Symbian->Nokia, so you might want to rewrite that last part...?
@Gutsy Gibbons
You're right, of course, Nokia has a commanding majority of the smartphone OS market worldwide. You have to keep in mind, though, that their marketshare is dramatically smaller than it used to be, and it's still dropping. With the OS progressing at a snail's pace, there's no real reason to believe that their market penetration is going to stabilize at 47% consideing how often people upgrade their cell phones.
Every couple of years, most people's OS of choice is completely up for grabs, and Symbian is going to continue to look more and more dated to those potential upgraders unless something big changes at the Symbian Foundation soon.
@Gutsy Gibbons I'm not going to rewrite my opinion. :D
Yes I'm in NA. Last time I saw anyone with a Nokia phone was probably 2004. If the rest of the world likes them, good for you! If you want to compete in the US again, you should probably start looking at Windows or Android.
@iamdeadfish "Last time I saw anyone with a Nokia phone was probably 2004. If the rest of the world likes them, good for you!"
Looks like you did a marketing survey by yourself there, good for you. Might wanna look outside your window sometimes, you'll gain some new insights (like googling up globalbrands and discover Nokia's the only noneuropean company in the top five) It's always good to have a big picture and an open mind I hope they still teach that in school :)
Oh and I use the 3GS and the E71 side by side, when you want a "phone first multimedia second" device for text, calls, emails with the best battery life and hw qwerty I still have a hard time finding a replacement for it. Great for business, you should try it sometimes, Nokia actually produces some quality products and E71 is one of them. If you wanna stay loyal and true to some platform or certain brand, your loss buddy ;P
@Gutsy Gibbons
Here's a correction to a couple of your points:
- Nokia is a European company (you said it was a non-European company)
- Nokia is not in the top 5 in global brands (it is #6 - http://www.businessweek.com/pdfs/2005/0531_globalbrand.pdf)
I assume you're not from North America (I am). As much as our European and Asian brethren (like you) like to remind us that Nokia has the largest share of the cell phone market by a wide margin, I must remind (you) them that hardware is irrelevant in 2010 in the minds of modern smart phone users in North America. As a longtime (former) N-series user, I can say without hesitation that Symbian is inferior to modern operating systems like WebOS(my current OS of choice), Android and iPhone. Also, Symbian^3 and ^4 look just as abysmal and dated as the OS on the N97.
Nokia is in for a rude awakening when the rest of the world is introduced to the superior competition.
Did you know BADA means 'ocean' or 'sea' in Korean?
Samsung software is horrible, just horrible.