While Adobe evangelist Ryan Stewart wants us to focus on Flash 10.1 performance -- admittedly impressive -- running on his Nexus One, we can't help but be distracted by the Android 2.2 "Froyo" build apparently supporting his device. Can you blame us? It's
not like we're alone with
waning interest in Flash,
especially for video playback. Anyway, from the looks of the homescreen in the grab above, we'll be treated to an updated launcher, Android tutorial, and global search box when the OS is revealed (presumably) at Google I/O starting May 19. And with the giant Froyo statue apparently already delivered to the
GooglePlex's confectionary art show, well, the stage is set for 2.2 to be launched in time for Adobe's planned
June release of Flash 10.1. Get your glimpse into the future of Flash and Android in the video after the break.
Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the
Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the
Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah.
[Thanks, Taylor]
posted May 11th 2010 11:10PM
@Tes
Dude, you should chill out a little, no need to get all worked up like this.
The healdine reads 'runs as butter', the summary says 'very impresse', and in the video the guy says 'as you can see all Flashg content runs great on the Nexus One, just like on a normal PC'. According to you I should interpret that as 'it still runs choppy and the user experience when browsing a page with lots of Flash is far from enjoyable', because it's "pre-release code". You know Flash 10.1 is supposed to be released next month, has been in development for over 5 years or something, and that this is one of the only 3 demo video's Adobe showed up to now?
i'm sorry but I think that's not Nexus One, but Motorola Droid (Milestone), so I suppose that on Nexus One or HTC Desire could run even smoother..
edit: sorry, wrong consideration, that's the Nexus One indeed... :)
How ironic http://cl.ly/12lK
@Vincent
It crashed, huh? Why I am not surprised.
@Vincent
lol Steve 4 Adobe 0
@Vincent
Hmm...Works just fine on Google Chrome on my MacBook.
I hope the it will be well supported by Dolphin.
I can't believe I'm still waiting for 2.1 on my hero..
Did anyone seriously think that "Flash is over" just because Jobs and some others said it was ? There is NO way in which you can do some of the stuff shown in that demonstration with HTML5 + H.264 ( in fact there's no way you can do it with html 5 ,period ) and the argument it is a resources hog and unstable is also false .The real reason is Apple wants to have control and in light of the development described here it is very apparent what the reason is for blocking Flash:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developing_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html
Even avid Apple fans think it unwise to start develop a new platform from scratch as can be seen in various comments to that article . It's re-inventing the wheel.
@rik66
yeah yeah, move on.
@rik66 I see adobe suing apple for.....patent infringement!!
@rik66: Flash is finished because it will never be optimized for mobile for mobile devices, i.e., battery life. Who cares if it can play if it frequently crashes and runs down you battery in double time?
Flash is over. HTML5 is here to stay. Adobe goes belly up by 2015.
@rik66 i am affraid you are right. as a web developper, i can't do correct vectorial graphic applications using HTML 5. people just don't seem to understand that html 5, the way it is specified by W3C, just adds video and better ajax implementation, but no SVG on the browser, except for external plug-ins such as activex, flash (which is an activex on windows machines), java applets, etc...
@phearme What folks fail to realize ( even the ones calling me a troll ) is that HTML 5 is a language ,not a codec or plugin so for anything in terms of media you still need codecs and plugins . Just like the HTML version before it .
@rik66 correction...html5 is not a complete language...not turing complete...a marlup language only...very big difference.
@rik66
What most people don't realize is HTML 5 is still in development by W3C, Jobs is just pushing it right now because Adobe products don't directly support an in development project.
@rik66 "There is NO way in which you can do some of the stuff shown in that demonstration with HTML5 + H.264 ( in fact there's no way you can do it with html 5 ,period"
Some people say css, ajax, javascript, and other script can replace Flash. But it will be at least 5 pages of "mixed" codes compare to less than a page of coding in flash. I guess they don't know what web developer demand and that because they don't code flash themselves. For every 1 non flash developer bashing flash, there's a thousand flash developer to give em a good beating.
Hey, it's really all cool and stuff, but that global search isn't new to Froyo, we have that already...
@graey
I believe the difference is that now you can choose other search engines from the search bar instead of it being only a google search.
My h.264 youtube app on my iPhone looked tons smoother. Sure its in a page and allot more interactive, But the iPhone is a fair bit slower then a nexus.
@Shanebenn
Of course a dedicated app will always be faster because it's designed to do that one thing only. The android youtube app is incredibly smooth too and shows high res videos. But for sites that don't have a dedicated app, this is the only way to see their video content.
What about battery life?
@MikeyVesagas
It's obviously hardware accelerated.
In terms of battery life, it's no different than playing videos.
@DoctarPeppar
So not good.
Good artists design. Successful artists ship. Adobe should thank Apple for kicking them in the nutz hard enough to finally get Flash Player for Mobile out there.
Now what's Apple going to say? Of course, they're still hugging AT&T, so...
i will have these nice animations on my iphone too because Steve Jobs will make them in HTML5 in about 50 years...
A 'beautiful and magical' web experience, oh wait!!
It's not an fruit based product! But man it looks great, no fruit here.
That guy represents adobe well. He held my attention throughout the entire video (and I have adhd).
http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2010/may/08/android-flash-demo-flashcamp-seattle/
Bad week for Apple. Dropping to #3 and now Adobe doing what Jobs dared them to...show off flash running flawlessly on a mobile device
@KBatFLORIDA
Not to mention the lawsuit from Nokia ...
@KBatFLORIDA: Yeah, terrible week. They just booked a billion on the iPad launch, and you believe that because the market is flooded with BOGO Android devices that Apple is still not number one in profit per device?
@Ariel Bender
That's right. Dig your heels in a little bit deeper.
All the iPad is good for is a piece of coffee table art that doubles as a status symbol. Count me out.
@rmcray08
I'd like to quote someone here:
"That's right. Dig your heels in a little bit deeper."
@trainwrecka: Shantanu, tell them what they've won!
rmcray08 and trainwrecka have both been awarded the Flashole package. Half the battery life and 100% malware capable.
Enjoy it while it lasts. Adobe joins the deadpool in 2015!
ha ha excellent now this is a damn near full web experience on a mobile phone!
@Eroded Fallacy
True, and it is free - not packaged as $1+ apps.
This is a reason why I moved from Nokia and Symbian to HTC and Android. Updates which are great and enhance further the phone and ability. Sure Symbian has had flash for a while, but hardly any updates to it (Flash) which makes the web experience bad for some sites.
Can't wait for the HTC version to be made available soon. Also I hope they fix some bugs in 2.2 not just enhancements. :) Looking forward to this.
ThatTIehat is awesome! I wish htc evo debuts for gsm networks. I'm tired of waiting for Dell mini 5, f u Dell!
Video looks okay, not great. Wasn't all of this promised from Adobe to have been good to go over a year ago!? And this is as far as they've gotten?
@Motlee Nope - we promised that we'd deliver in the first half of 2010, and we will do just that at Google I/O.
Mark Doherty -Adobe
@mdoherty To be fair you guys have been promising Flash on mobile years so you could understand someone getting confused (even if you ignore things like Flash Lite for the HTC Hero being announced last June as FLASH COMES TO ANDROID! - http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200906/062409AdobeandHTCBringFlashPlatformtoAndroid.html ).
if adobe can bring a non battery draining decent version of flash to mobile devices APPLE will have no choice but to change its stance on flash..
The people will decide what we want.
I kno im excited for my Evo to support flash on that large screen. LETS GO SPRINT!
@neeko18 the only flash apple is going to implement is a flash for the camera.
@phearme It only took Apple 4 years to do that.
@neeko18 Steve Jobs will never take back what he said about Flash. He's an arrogant piece of crap who is too hard headed to think straight.
Well I'm glad that I'm rooted and on standby for this one once a good build is out there I'm a flash away from well... flash
JUNE? I want it NOW!! Then again June isn't too far away =) My birthday is in June =) nice birthday present for me =D
I would not say it runs like butter. Maybe peanut butter.