Entelligence: Thirty three screens and a cloud
Entelligence is a column by technology strategist and author Michael Gartenberg, a man whose desire for a delicious cup of coffee and a quality New York bagel is dwarfed only by his passion for tech. In these articles, he'll explore where our industry is and where it's going -- on both micro and macro levels -- with the unique wit and insight only he can provide.
There are some devices that are universally loved or reviled -- I don't know anyone who doesn't think HTC EVO 4G is awesome, or anyone who doesn't think the WikiReader was awful. Then there are some that seem to be quite polarizing, and these are the ones that I'm usually most interested in -- just listen to Joshua Topolsky and me debate Kin on the Engadget Podcast, for example. The latest of these polarizing devices is the Sony Dash. The Dash is hard to categorize. It's a connected screen, based in part on the venerable Chumby. Nilay Patel was somewhat lukewarm about it. Ross Rubin likes it and the Wall Street Journal was somewhat ambivalent about it. Here's what I've learned from a few days living with one on my nightstand.1. The vision is fundamentally correct. There's a lot that needs to improve about the Dash, both from a marketing and implementation perspective, but the core idea is sound. Microsoft likes to talk about "three screens and a cloud" and I agree with that vision -- my phone number is 408-3-SCREEN -- but it's really a statement about consumption, creation and communication. Count the number of PCs, TVs, phones, game devices, media players and navigation devices you have around the house and interact with -- it's more like 33 screens. The idea that there's going to be multiple connected screens that consumers interact with is real.
2. Paradigms shift. One of the arguments against Dash is that consumers won't pay $199 for a device that doesn't fit into the three screen model. Perhaps. But there's a lot of evidence that's contrary to this. When the iPod was first introduced, a lot of pundits said it was doomed to failure. Why one earth would someone spend $500 on a gadget that was fundamentally the same as a $50 CD player? Of course, that analysis was as wrong as possible. Consumers will pay where they see value. I'm not sure the current iteration of Dash has met that threshold, but I don't think it's a product that's meant for the mass market right now. Longer term, Sony needs to think less about adding functionality, and more about how to constrain it. When it comes to consumer electronics, less is often more.
Glanceable devices are all around us -- look at that watch on your wrist or your clock radio. |
3. Glanceable information is key. I love the idea of glanceable content. Microsoft attempted to do much of what is key to Dash with its SPOT initiative (although with a very different approach). Information should be easily accessible and viewable. I don't even need to make an argument here, really -- glanceable devices are all around us. Look at that watch on your wrist or your clock radio. Both are designed to quickly convey one bit of information: the time of day. The dashboard on your car conveys key information such as speed and fuel consumption. At the moment, no one's quite gotten how to extend richer views of information to those glanceable screens, but the Dash begins to do this. For example, when I wake up in the morning, I want to know the time as well as the weather.
Using Dash for a while I can see just why the product is as polarizing as it is in current incarnation. Sony will address current issues or not but I expect that connected screens are going to be a core part of our lives going forward.






















99 red tablets in a cloud.
@FermentedDischarge. Your name perfectly describes your comment
Thirty-three screens and a cloud ain't on one:
If you've got data problems I feel bad for you son!
@Old fogie late bloomer And the bitch ain't one!.....
@FermentedDischarge Glanceable devices are all around us -- look at that watch on your wrist or your clock radio. -- Likewise, for the kin and the dash and for the future products surrounding it. Opinions. http://j.mp/sony-dash-tablet-view
This isn't related to this comment string but I feel I need to say this where more people will see it.
Dear Engadget,
Will you please remove the introductory paragraph for the Entelligence articles. It is grating every time I scroll past and catch a word or two of it. Sometimes all it takes is for me to recall that it is there and I feel like I should insult the nearest living thing for pissing me off. It is pompous and pointless. I don't care about his coffee or bagels and the passion he has for these things. Also, I will judge myself if his insight into the tech world is worth a damn (many of the articles would say otherwise). I don't know if I am in the majority with my opinion, but frankly I had to say something. Now replace that bull with something more fitting.
@deepfriedpirate LOL, these rants makes me laugh every time! But yeah, I feel the same way, so they should probably do that...
@deepfriedpirate
LOL! That's the first thing I thought of!
That bagel statement grates me too. EVERYTIME.
@deepfriedpirate I thought I was the only one that hated that intro. The quality of the articles are only dwarfed by the intro.
@deepfriedpirate
Well I believe the intent is to set up a bit of imagery. You know, to get you all cozied up for a fireside chat. Beyond that I believe its a tactic meant for you to open up and accept the views a bit easier. To me its akin to USA Today telling you what your opinion is (for the love of god Hilton brands, stop providing me that bullshit paper). But any way, intent != reality yeah?
@credo You are probably right that they intend to do such things but you are even more correct in that they failed. Its just plain counter-productive to promoting his articles.
"I don't know anyone who doesn't think HTC EVO 4G is awesome,"
CDMA. Sprint. screen isnt OLED. so heavy it needs a kickstand. uses android (meaning media player is the worst out of all phone OS, UI is hacked together, etc.)
Android is just all over the damn place. It seems every cell maker has Android. And they abuse it to. Meaning they will not release,well not that fast, a new Android OS on a current phone because they want to save it for a new model.
@Michael Gartenberg Well here 'ya go. The first person who doesn't like the EVO. Too bad he's a troll.
@N900
challenge any of my points
@account5
OLED screens have visibility issues outdoors.
I am not just going on someone elses say so either -- I've had two phones that are barely viewable in sunlight (Omnia 2 and Omnia HD).
Samsung's SuperAMOLED claims to solve this problem, but so far they are the only ones pushing that technology afaik. EVO is better off without OLED.
And your claim that the Android media player sucks?
Compared to what exactly? They have more format support than Apple's devices, and if you watch the demos of the YouTube HQ player, I don't see how you can think it sucks. They did a side by side comparison with the iPhone, and it blew it out of the water.
Also, your claim that "Sprint" is a con -- this is not a problem with the Evo or even Android -- this is a problem with the entire system of device \ carrier exclusivity, and it needs to stop...but I don't think it will, it will probably just get worse as technology advances. But I really don't see how Sprint is worse than AT&T.
@DoctarPeppar
at&t isnt dying cdma
@account5 CDMA is a dying technology that over 130 million consumers use. If CDMA was so dead, Verizon and Sprint wouldn't be making money off of it, and they wouldn't be continuously supporting it. Yet it continues to exist. LTE is being developed, but still isn't ready yet. The EVO has WiMax, so it can do simultaneous voice and data no matter what radio it's using. Not only that, WiMax is building markets and will have 22+ markets completed, so not having that 4G to do simultaneous services won't be an issue. Currently, about 90% of devices and upcoming devices (that Samsung dual-view camera doesn't have OLED, but is still selling like gangbusters) won't be updating to OLED. LG Ally? LCD, iPhone 4? Probably won't adopt it. OLED isn't the end all be all, and if I'm not mistaken, isn't it already being replaced by Super? So I have to ask you: why aren't phones adopting Super and just standard OLED, since by your logic OLED must be dead if a better version is out.
@account5
"UI is hacked together"
You keep saying that, but what does that even mean? It's choppy/rugged? No, not at all, especially on Android 2.x.
@account5 You can also thank CDMA for UMTS development.
@N900
super is just from samsung, it couldnt go to "all phones" itll just be samsung phones, its too expensive to produce right now
@account5: dang, I hate this 'account5' idiot.
1. The Evo may be using 'dying cdma' technology, but lemme point something out to you. All the major phones that are NOT on T-Mobile, AT&T in the US, are CDMA. The DROID. The Eris. The Incredible. Almost all the Blackberries.
2. It's on Android is a reason TO buy it. Not to NOT buy it.
3. Sprint. Ok dude, really. The ONLY carrier that already has 4G. The ONLY carrier with the best pricing. On AT&T, can you get a $69.99 a month plan that has UNLIMITED phone, text, AND data? Even if you scratch off the 4G it's STILL good.
4. Hacked together UI? What the frick man, show me a UI more good looking then HTC Sense. Reakky.
5. Does your Dell Lightning have SuperAMOLED? Didn't think so.
6. Get a life.
@account5
You may possibly be the biggest troll I have ever had the displeasure of encountering upon the internet. Please proceed to the nearest alt+f4 or command+w key arrangement and then the power button on your machine.
Thank you and goodbye
@account5 Wow I love watching, arguments like yours fall apart around their makers. Brightens my day a little knowing there are just as many reasonable people as there are fanboys.
@account5
BTW is your name Ryan by any chance?
@blenderman345
"The DROID. The Eris. The Incredible. Almost all the Blackberries. "
lmao is the eris and droid something to brag about? thanks for proving cdma phones are complete garbage. have fun trying to surf the web and talk at the same time. Oh wait...
@blenderman345
LOL@ #6.
But yeah, just to elaborate, AMOLED\OLED is still in its infancy..which is why we don't see widespread use of it in televisions or desktop \ laptop displays yet. Some mfgs have chosen to go with it anyways...for better or worse I guess. It does have some benefits, but after owning two AMOLED phones, I would have to say that I would rather have TFT. Another thing I didn't mention is that AMOLED is more succeptible to screen \ image \ pixel burn out...especially with blues. Maybe in a few years from now when the technology has been better optimized, someone could consider a phone not having it a "con" -- but seriously, right now? No way.
@account5 "at&t isnt dying cdma"
Uh, HSPA is based on CDMA, in the form of WCDMA. So CDMA is in fact going to live on in the form of HSPA, ironically enough.
@account5
-If CDMA is problem, I recommend T Mobile Android device.
-I like AMOLED, but HD2 show us that 4.3 TFT is awesome too. If EVO had 4.3" Super AMOLED, it would be LEGEND gadget of the Year. Anyway it is still gadget of the year(so far).
-EVO is too heavy? It is170g with 4,3" display. i-phone is 135g with 3.5" display. 35g for .8" more bigger screen. It is really good deal, if you strong enough to lift 35g more.
-Android? Nobody gonna put crappy OS,Even it is free OS. Everybody use Android because it is free and great OS.
@account5 are you kidding me. so what cdma is a dying technology. they still have amazing phones both cdma companies and gsm companies have good phones. in my opinion the best phones are coming out for cdma cariers. name me a few decent phones that are comint out lately for att or tmobile that dont run android and are good phones. thats right there are none. exept for maybe the palm pre plus witch just hit att. but that was a cdma phone to begin with. so go away we dont need saying o ya this phone sucks when you know it doesnt. and sprint/verizon doesnt suck. cdma may be a "dying technology" but theres probobly more cdma phones in the us than there is gsm phones. the only phone i can think of that is gsm that i wouldnt mind haveing in a cdma form is the iphone. and that prolly wont happen any time soon. get a life man
@account5 I seriously laugh at a guy who can't handle 6 oz of weight. You have problems picking up your food too?
@lars1110
I agree with that CDMA and GSM are great.
However, I think VOIP will be dominate mobile market in future... or more far future (Which means you only need data plan).
Am I only one who think this way?
@account5 "challenge any of my points"
How about all of them?
"screen isnt OLED" - so what? It's not about what technology is used, it's about how good it looks, it's fantastically large, bright and clear screen.
"so heavy it needs a kickstand" - I think you know you're being ridiculous here. The kickstand is so you can set it on a table landscape mode and watch stuff hands free. It just happens to have a large enough screen and good enough display that anyone would want to do this.
"uses android (meaning media player is the worst out of all phone OS, UI is hacked together, etc.)" - your statement just a baseless, fanboy opinion. Why don't you describe some actual features thart are sub par and compare them to some other mobile operating systems to prove your point?
"Android is just all over the damn place." - yes, because it's popular, because it's good and work well. Thank you for pointing that out."they abuse it to. Meaning they will not release,well not that fast" - fumbling over your own statement, aren't you. Who is this "they" you speak of, are they after you?
What watch on my wrist? I got rid of it a long time ago. The only glanceable device I have like that now is my phone. The phone replaced an alarm clock, too.
The Dash is too expensive for a glanceable device and too slow for what it is. It might be nice in theory, but it needs to drop another $100 and shake some of that molasses off before it takes off.
@chandler
Actually, since I've been using a smartphone, I've been wearing a watch again. Smartphones are totally not glancable, in the way dumbphones were as you usually need to press a button and let the screen turn on to find out the time.
@nonexcludable
what kind of smartphone do you have? I can't really think of any where you don't pull it out and press a button to see the time on the lock screen. i really disagree with the article in fact. i have a laptop, an ipod touch, and a dumb phone (cheap plan). not a single screen more, and it suits me fine. the ipod touch costed as much as the dash does, and has pretty glanceable information. not entirely so, but it's a wonder what a jailbreak can do ;)
@nonexcludable
sorry, i think i misread what you said. but still, dont you have to press a button to turn the backlight on on a dumphone? it's practically the same.
I want a dash, people seem to have forgotten that there's a point to putting a singular physical location to information that's only ever required in one place.
@pheer6224
If you can, I'd wait 2-4 months and get one at a heavy discount. Especially if they come out with the Dash2 with a battery for $199, the originals will be sub-$99 in a heartbeat. That's when I'll get one!
@pheer6224
What is this dash you seek?
@Kimosabe
The one that this column is about... /:|
@pheer6224
I saw one of these in Vegas at the Sony Store and they are incredibly awesome. It's pretty much a geeks alarm clock. Then I noticed it was $200 and put the box back down. I agree with pretty much everyone else that thinks $100 is a better price point for something that will do nothing more than display time and current weather.
Very poor post. I think some of the editors need to take more pride in their writing. If you are trying to argue a point, don't insult your disagreeing reader with grammar mistakes. "Joshua Topolsky and I" should be [Joshua Topolsky and me." Besides the grammar, I thought the whole post was not very good. It didn't really inform me, it didn't have any good points to backup the fighting language, and I didn't agree with anything you said.
@greenestofteas What? Since when do we use "...and me"? You use "Me and ..." though "...and I" is more grammatically correct. Perhaps this is a specific case scenario that I can't quite remember, but I think you are incorrect (unless they changed language rules again, sometime in the past 20 years, no surprise if that's the case).
Also, when people can't see past superficial things I don't think they are open-minded enough to actually receive more of the point if there is one. However, in this case, I agree that the evidence is lacking, there is no major revelation. I went into the article thinking this could be one of the better Entelligence articles I've read.
Yes, "Joshua Topolsky and me" is correct here.
The easiest way to tell whether it should be "... and I" or "... and me" is to take everyone else out of the list, and ask yourself whether "I" or "me" sounds correct. In this case, "just listen to me debate" sounds correct, and "just listen to I debate" doesn't.
Obviously there are grammar rules that describe it, but for me it's easier just to ask myself what sounds right. Of course, if you're not a native English speaker, or if you grew up listening to bad grammar, it doesn't work as well.
@juanvaldez
You use "____ and me" when you are the object of the sentence and not the subject. Such as That man invited my friend and me to the party.
@juanvaldez Nah—he's right about the grammar. A simple way to think about it is to take off the other person, so Josh Topolsky and I becomes "I". And you wouldn't say "just listen to I debate the Kin on the podcast". You would say "just listen to ME debate the Kin on the podcast". So it's "Joshua Topolsky and me".
Get it?
@juanvaldez I can see why your are confused; it's my fault. Here is the whole quote: "just listen to Joshua Topolsky and I debate Kin on the Engadget Podcast,". Now remember, I is the first person singular subject pronoun; it refers to the first person preforming the action of the verb. Me is an object pronoun; it refers to the person that the action of the verb is being done to, or to which a preposition refers. Now when you look at the whole sentence, you realize that "listen" is not an action that is done by the pronoun, rather, the action is done onto the pronoun. Hence, "me" is used instead of "I". For i Sorry about the technicalities. Just because I am in high-school does not mean I don't have a spare copy of The Elements of Style sitting around.
@greenestofteas
I am really sick of seeing "grammar police" posts on Engadget.
Does it *really* matter? Seriously.
@DoctarPeppar
To the Engadget Trolls? Yes...
To normal readers? NO
The Engadget trolls refuse to go start their own blog which will be the most perfect blog EVAR...
@greenestofteas
I do agree with you, but ultimately the point was made in the article in a clear enough fashion to be understood. In any event, sometimes what is wrong here (in NA) may be correct in, say, England.
I'm an American living in a former British colony and in my profession, I regularly have to consult my colleagues for structure and grammar as what is correct for my American English ends up being horribly wrong for a public educated in the British system.
With that perspective, being technically correct isn't all it is cracked up to be; unless of course, a person is writing a book. And even then we can find a whole lot of butchering of the English language.