We all know how Microsofts ambitions go. Remember 3 years ago when Ballmer said WinMo would have like 80% market share and iPhone wouldn't break 5% market share? 30 million is reaching.... far. Maybe they should reach for something more realistic, like 3 million :3
He actually said: "There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."
"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer. "It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."
in his defense, the iPhone came down in price... If it where still selling at 500 with a 2 year contract, it wouldn't be doing nearly as good.
anyways, personally i don't like windows mobile 7. The os looks nice, but not very convenient. I'm sure alot will like it, and with microsofts name and advertising budget it will do just fine. The xbox feature will move a few million on it's own.
@Nimer55 Also, when the iphone came out, there wasn't this amazing app store. How many of us would buy an iPhone without an app store? Ballmer was right, Apple's innovation just made the phone better and hence his prediction was not applicable.
@Canucker It's not close at all bro. First of all he didn't predict that his operating system would be on 80% of the phone. Secondly, he was talking about the entire cellphone market (1.3 billion phones) and not smart phones only. So with all that, he was still right, 3% of 1.3B is about 40MM phones which is close to what the iPhone has sold so far.
That being said, 30MM WP7 goal is pretty far out there. I'd hate to be in their sales department with that kind of pressure.
No he's not. I work for a firm that actually sells phones, and trust me, 3% of all phones is pretty accurate to be honest. Oh wait, you conveniently forget about the absolutely huge market of non smart phones and the pre pay market ;-) But not only that, iPhones probably only account for about 10% of the CONTRACT phones that our store sells in a month. And we're an extremely busy store with massive footfall. So get your head out of Steve Jobs arse and see the whole picture.
Do I own an iPhone? Yeah, but only because I get staff discount ;-) Otherwise I'd happily use my Nokia 6700...oh wait, it's not a smartphone (yet it has free sat nav, can browse the web and download apps) so that doesn't even exist in Mr. Jobs' Apple only world :-)
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We all know how Microsofts ambitions go. Remember 3 years ago when Ballmer said WinMo would have like 80% market share and iPhone wouldn't break 5% market share? 30 million is reaching.... far. Maybe they should reach for something more realistic, like 3 million :3
@BecauseItsNotGoogle
He actually said: "There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."
Hmmm.... seems pretty close to me.
@BecauseItsNotGoogle
"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance," said Ballmer. "It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get."
@jwdav
in his defense, the iPhone came down in price... If it where still selling at 500 with a 2 year contract, it wouldn't be doing nearly as good.
anyways, personally i don't like windows mobile 7. The os looks nice, but not very convenient. I'm sure alot will like it, and with microsofts name and advertising budget it will do just fine. The xbox feature will move a few million on it's own.
@Nimer55 Also, when the iphone came out, there wasn't this amazing app store. How many of us would buy an iPhone without an app store? Ballmer was right, Apple's innovation just made the phone better and hence his prediction was not applicable.
@Canucker
It's not close at all bro. First of all he didn't predict that his operating system would be on 80% of the phone. Secondly, he was talking about the entire cellphone market (1.3 billion phones) and not smart phones only. So with all that, he was still right, 3% of 1.3B is about 40MM phones which is close to what the iPhone has sold so far.
That being said, 30MM WP7 goal is pretty far out there. I'd hate to be in their sales department with that kind of pressure.
@TheOsiris
Ballmer said: "There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance"
He was wrong. Very wrong. The end.
@Jack
No he's not. I work for a firm that actually sells phones, and trust me, 3% of all phones is pretty accurate to be honest. Oh wait, you conveniently forget about the absolutely huge market of non smart phones and the pre pay market ;-) But not only that, iPhones probably only account for about 10% of the CONTRACT phones that our store sells in a month. And we're an extremely busy store with massive footfall. So get your head out of Steve Jobs arse and see the whole picture.
Do I own an iPhone? Yeah, but only because I get staff discount ;-) Otherwise I'd happily use my Nokia 6700...oh wait, it's not a smartphone (yet it has free sat nav, can browse the web and download apps) so that doesn't even exist in Mr. Jobs' Apple only world :-)