AT&T: 40 percent of iPhone sales are enterprise, Android 'built with a very specific focus to consumers'
It isn't just Verizon's Lowell McAdam with fascinating commentary at this Barclays Capital tech conference going down in New York this week. Ron Spears, who leads up AT&T's Business Solutions division, had some notable things to say about enterprise mobility -- specifically, the iPhone's role in taking businesses to the road, a magic trick typically associated almost exclusively with BlackBerry over the past ten years. Basically, Spears says that he's seeing extraordinary uptake on the business side with the iPhone since 2008 and the introduction of the platform's first enterprise-focused features; in fact, he claims that "four out of every 10 sales" are to enterprise users these days and that it has all but caught up to BlackBerry for the kind of modern, tight, full-featured security that your average IT department needs. On a related note, Spears says that he hasn't "seen the Android platform yet in the enterprise space," but that he figures it'll evolve over time to become "hard to ignore" to the enterprise segment. Of course, considering that AT&T has virtually no presence in the Android market at the moment, we're not surprised that he'd take a lukewarm tack -- so here's hoping that changes fast. Follow the break for more highlights of Spears' comments.
You mentioned mobility and clearly a lot of discussion of it and no conversation with AT&T would be complete without at least mentioning the iPhone. So, can you talk about the role you've seen the iPhone in particular playing in enterprise customers? And are there barriers to adoption that you see for the iPhone that you for example don't see for RIM, given prior experience with it?
So firstly, four out of 10 sales of the iPhone are made to enterprise users. When the iPhone came out, what most people heard in the first year from '07 to '08 was oh my God, it's not BlackBerry secure. This is not going to work on the enterprise space.
At the end of the day, it's just software. That's all it is. And by the time the 3G came out in '08 they had solved about 80% of the security issues. By the time the 3GS came out last summer, most CIOs will tell you today they have very few issues around the security that they need provided as they have come to know that RIM can do it because of the way RIM provides their solution.
So enterprises today view the iPhone as a mobile computer. It happens to have a voice application on it. But what's important is what you can do with it, and the way you can mobilize workforces, and specific parts of your workforce, not the entire workforce.
And things that it does at the executive level -- we have -- most of our monthly reporting is all built into an app that gets updated when our systems get updated, and we do an automatic fetch. And any time I want to look at where we sort of sit rom a financial point of view in ABS, it now resides on my iPhone as an app. So it starts to change the way you think about governing your business. It changes the speed with which you can make decisions.
And what the iPhone did and now has proliferated throughout the industry, so it's not the only smart phone out there, is that basically you've got a compute OS in a compute device. So it's not a voice device. It's not a single app device. It's a compute OS in a compute device. And it's the way enterprises think about it.
It is sort of the ultimate at this point in mobile computing. And it starts to allow them to make a decision like do they need laptops if they've got a field service force that needs one or two applications on a daily basis; do they need to go out and spend $1000 or $1200 for a laptop and then worry about sort of the lifecycle costs of keeping up with the laptop.
So mobile computers are changing the way enterprises think about how they provide access to information for either employees, customers, partners, supply chains. And we are at the very early stages in the enterprise space, the very early stages of watching these I call them mobile computers; you will call them integrated devices or smartphones, but they have compute capability that is -- and they can do it with a desktop-type experience because of the speed of the mobile broadband network. And when you run the fastest mobile network in the country and you can match a mobile computer to it, you are providing a terrific customer experience.
Are you seeing also interest or a similar level of acceptance related to the Android platform as well, or are we farther behind on that?
From my point of view -- I haven't seen the Android platform yet in the enterprise space. Not to say it won't come, but pretty much that platform has been built with a very specific focus to consumers. Over time, my guess is there will be an evolution that's kind of hard to ignore the enterprise space.
- "So what's driving demand in the enterprise space? And those of you that have heard me before, there are three macro trends that existed three years ago, and they've only accelerated in the last three years. Businesses being globalized, the technology being virtualized, and the access to the technology being mobilized. And so all of our strategy work that we started in '06 and '07 is informed by these three trends."
- "And with the smartphones that started to come into the market, specifically led by the iPhone in the summer of '08, the enterprise space from a mobility point of view has changed dramatically. And so today, when we think about how is all of this coming together, the convergence that everyone talked about 10 years ago was as we looked at IP networks, you were going to be able to collapse network infrastructures -- voice, data and video."
- "Today, the technologies that are starting to come together are those that have been virtualized -- network, data centers. And then you can wrap a mobility access into the data that's basically been virtualized. And you now are starting to build a very compelling solution set for enterprises. And more and more we are seeing this solution set accelerate regardless of the particular segment. This will work as well in small business as it will in global multinationals."
- "And we are going to mobilize everything. In the last 12 months, we've added 4 million business subscribers. We've doubled our integrated device sales. One in every two devices we sell in the enterprise space today is integrated. And what those devices are driving are the use of applications."
You mentioned mobility and clearly a lot of discussion of it and no conversation with AT&T would be complete without at least mentioning the iPhone. So, can you talk about the role you've seen the iPhone in particular playing in enterprise customers? And are there barriers to adoption that you see for the iPhone that you for example don't see for RIM, given prior experience with it?
So firstly, four out of 10 sales of the iPhone are made to enterprise users. When the iPhone came out, what most people heard in the first year from '07 to '08 was oh my God, it's not BlackBerry secure. This is not going to work on the enterprise space.
At the end of the day, it's just software. That's all it is. And by the time the 3G came out in '08 they had solved about 80% of the security issues. By the time the 3GS came out last summer, most CIOs will tell you today they have very few issues around the security that they need provided as they have come to know that RIM can do it because of the way RIM provides their solution.
So enterprises today view the iPhone as a mobile computer. It happens to have a voice application on it. But what's important is what you can do with it, and the way you can mobilize workforces, and specific parts of your workforce, not the entire workforce.
And things that it does at the executive level -- we have -- most of our monthly reporting is all built into an app that gets updated when our systems get updated, and we do an automatic fetch. And any time I want to look at where we sort of sit rom a financial point of view in ABS, it now resides on my iPhone as an app. So it starts to change the way you think about governing your business. It changes the speed with which you can make decisions.
And what the iPhone did and now has proliferated throughout the industry, so it's not the only smart phone out there, is that basically you've got a compute OS in a compute device. So it's not a voice device. It's not a single app device. It's a compute OS in a compute device. And it's the way enterprises think about it.
It is sort of the ultimate at this point in mobile computing. And it starts to allow them to make a decision like do they need laptops if they've got a field service force that needs one or two applications on a daily basis; do they need to go out and spend $1000 or $1200 for a laptop and then worry about sort of the lifecycle costs of keeping up with the laptop.
So mobile computers are changing the way enterprises think about how they provide access to information for either employees, customers, partners, supply chains. And we are at the very early stages in the enterprise space, the very early stages of watching these I call them mobile computers; you will call them integrated devices or smartphones, but they have compute capability that is -- and they can do it with a desktop-type experience because of the speed of the mobile broadband network. And when you run the fastest mobile network in the country and you can match a mobile computer to it, you are providing a terrific customer experience.
Are you seeing also interest or a similar level of acceptance related to the Android platform as well, or are we farther behind on that?
From my point of view -- I haven't seen the Android platform yet in the enterprise space. Not to say it won't come, but pretty much that platform has been built with a very specific focus to consumers. Over time, my guess is there will be an evolution that's kind of hard to ignore the enterprise space.























@UnixSystemsEngineer
Yeah, since it doesn't work right on their iPhones but it does on their Android devices, clearly Exchange is to blame.
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Err, what?? A piece of logic is missing there.
@UnixSystemsEngineer you're doing it wrong then. no calendar issues at all in the past three years running exchange. if you are relying on desktop sync to mobile device then that is where the fail is.
All lies, as usual from AT&T.
iphone in an enterprise is a joke......even apple didnt want to do exchange but people complained and they did it. iphone was forced to be a business phone. BB and WinMo are the best still.
@Seven2k
Have you ever worked in an enterprise, or used an iPhone, BB or WinMo device? You just sound like a stupid troll puppet, sorry. Please add *reasons* for your contrary opinion next time.
@UnixSystemsEngineer
Actually yes...a UNIVERSITY and we dont support them cause like everyone else they are a hassle.
@UnixSystemsEngineer
CALENDAR!!! 3rd party apps suck the main one that some users use is made in Czech..cant even get support. ATT service sucks users blame IT so ATT bad service...want me to keep going? When you 1k + user and less 10% use iphone why bother with the headaches. Business phone is to do business not play games.
@UnixSystemsEngineer They lost me at "plug in iPhone and launch iTunes to activate and register" "Noo you plugged it into the wrong computer with iTunes open now everything is gone!!" Enterprise my ass.
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So you have basically two phones available for Enterprise users, iPhones and Blackberries, and you're shocked that one of them is almost half of your sales?
Even without the flaw announced today, there is one very important security feature the iphone lacks - even with enterprise lock down/remote wipe and alphanumeric passwords, the iphone's file system still doesn't support encryption. That means in healthcare and legal worlds, a stolen iphone has to be assumed compromised even with all that other security in place. That means federal and state requirements for reporting theft of confidential information apply.
So no, the iPhone is definitely not quite blackberry level yet. The real annoying part is that it doesn't stop companies from having to support them because they are so popular. It just means all these liabilities that BB helped them not worry about for years are back.
PITA. I wish more companies actually paid attention to what "security" really means. Apple's one of the worst companies at using that term incorrectly.
Dear AT&T,
Companies are buying employee's iPhones because they are cool and a nice perk to give people. Not because of their great enterprise capabilities.
Sincerely,
"doesn't use apple products but can still admit they are cool"
@pbred Ugh... bad grammar in my first engadget post...so ashamed.
God the Google faithful is ruining this site in a way that no Apple fan could. There is so little fact here.
Fact, today the iPhone has a superior enterprise experience to Android. We dropt android support because there is no remote kill and wipe via there EAS implementation. I read that will improve with froyo, but Apple has added over 100 EAS functions to 4.0.
There is no ATT exaggeration here. A lot of local companies have switched to iPhone. Android will be there eventually, if they want, but let's keep the inflated ego of android kept to a minimum. The platform hasn't quite caught up to the hype.
Today Exchange 2007 and iPhone OS3 is powerful combo.
@Brucealeg we have to counter your FUD somehow. No? The i Tards are lining up to spread as many lies about anything that directly competes with Apple. It very much is the rest of the tech industry against the cancer that is Apple. Your company needs to die, else every device is going to be relegated to commodity status where you have to buy it once every year and a half to get marginal feature upgrades. Apple can go to Hell.
@Brucealeg
YOU ARE ON CRACK!
@Brucealeg
FACT: Android does support both remote kill and EAS. http://www.nitrodesk.com/security.aspx
FACT: Android supports EAS better than the iPhone in that with Android it will honor blocking the download of attachments. Since neither has an encrypted file system allowing users to download and save an attachment defeats the purpose of even having it.
@John Doe WOW! You sound like a deranged lunatic! I think you have proven the point here rather nicely. that you for clearing this up for everyone. The Android fantard does seem to be a very desperate and ill informed group. Simply WOW!!
40% of Iphones are made with the blood of suicides from Apples outsourcing of misery. Also Dell & HP are contributors :(
@Xing
"Also" Dell and HP? Who do you think started this whole trend?
#1 reason why Android is not accepted by Enterprise:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3902
Over 200 requests alone for a CISCO Group IPSEC VPN implementation. None of the vendor wants to pony for the license.
When you can have CISCO VPN without rooting your droid, Android will be enterprise ready.
I call BS. No enterprise worth ANYTHING would allows an iPhone to be used as an officially approved product. Not unless its run by an iDiot.
@John Doe
My work phone is an iPhone (my private line is a BlackBerry) and the company I work for is worth at least 100 billion. So, there's that...
@John Doe
That was the case at our place. Management decided to get everyone an iPhone, only to find out it wouldn't work right with meeting maker. So their brilliant solution was to order everyone blackberries and demand that we carry both, the bb for meeting maker support and the iphone for everything else.
Some companies just happen to be run by morons that buy into hype. Apple made the iphone seem like a magical do-all device when they first released it and that's exactly how our management took it. Our place outsourced a software project to India - an iPhone application (language training software) they wanted written in flash for some reason. We got our crappy program, but it definitely did not work on the iphone, or any other phone at the time. After finding out that the iphone doesn't support flash or java, one of our bosses stood up in a staff meeting and said "well we'll just have to contact apple about that and see what it'll take to have flash running on these things."
I have a feeling a big chunk of that 40% comes from companies like ours.
@CaptainOblivious
YOU ARE ON CRACK!!
Yeah, a verrry specific Consumer.... Engadget Android/Open Fangirls
Nice spin job by AT&T but here's the real reason...discounts. I get a 22% discount on AT&T through my work benefits, I actually didn't know about it when I got the 3G at launch but I was able to apply it to the account a few months in and as soon as they made the change my account became a "business" account, it now says that on my bill and when I call them on the phone.
Does this include enterprise businesses consisting of one owner/staff member? That would make some sense. or
Whats your primary purpose for this phone?
A. Business
B. Personal
Could be another.
Lies damn lies and statistics!
Those are probably very recent statistics. Right now only chronically misinformed "consumers" are buying iPhones with their own money, everyone else is waiting until June. IT department however, don't care that the next version is around the corner because the purchasers are not the users. So the enterprise stats are inflated.
"Spears says that he hasn't 'seen the Android platform yet in the enterprise space,'"
Really that must be why the CIO of my company has the HTC Droid Incredible, and I have a Moto Droid.
In fact I think Android is the best phone for people that want one phone that crosses work, and home use.
Suck it Android.
I'm pretty sure this really means that 40% of the people who bought iPhonez did so using their work's corporate discount with ATT. Of course some probably get that subsidized or completely paid for by work.
I love my android phone and will be getting an EVO 4G on June 4th.
With that said, android still needs proxy settings and a few other things to be a real enterprise competitor.
My palm pre did a better job of working with various exchange server settings out of the box than my android phone does.
But hey, considering the resent employee moves at google, I think I've done the right thing on riding the android wave up.
Beyond that, having android on all networks seems a better attraction for companies. One branch has great verizon coverage, while another has great sprint or at&t??? Android will be able to cover all employees without sacrificing a usable network.
And still, I'd have a hard time recommending to my boss that we roll out anything but blackberry right now.
This is a little misleading. For example, when I did own a iPhone, I had a company discount through my employer (15%). So when I applied that, at&t categorized me as a business customer. This seems to be a way of cooking the books for them.
hm. Lots of enterprises have a "no camera" policy.
Everyone is missing the important thing here:
What the heck is the range on that statistic?
40% in 3 years (unlikely)? Impressive.
40% in the past week (more likely)? Not impressive.
The fact that they didn't give a range is suspect.