having 3 OS' is not the fragmentation that everyone would want you to believe it is... still fragmented but not to the point where Android would crash in around itself
I agree, and I hope I don't get downranked for it. As people who get into this kind of stuff, it's really easily for us to blow these things out of perspective, especially since the cell phone world moves at such a blistering pace and we're all about the next best thing. But when you compare Android 1.6 to other platforms, it's pretty well rounded as a whole and is only missing a few things that the average consumer probably wouldn't miss. 2.0/2.1 is higher spec and is a better fit for those higher end devices. If I was a manufacturer, I'd be hesitant to upgrade my older devices too, for fear of risking cannibalizing my own sales. I'd want you to buy the new premium one, not ask me for an upgrade for your old one. Just sayin....
Haha no, not because of you, but because every tech media company seems to have everyone's attention in flaming Google for "fragmentation". Although...
@JDubbs115 aww well at the end of the day "fragmentation" is getting completely blown out of proportion at this point, lets just allow Google to push the bounds of mobile technology and demand better service from our OEMs
@JDubbs115 I agree with you, from a carrier/phone manufacturer perspective. From a user/consumer perspective, and possibly a developer perspective, I would say this is where Apple and the iPhone have the upper hand. Updates aren't dependent on the carrier, everyone has access to the update on day one, and I can reliably start using new features of the OS from day one and be reasonably sure that almost everyone can use them. What Google needs is a way for the OS (or at least major parts of it) to be updated independently of the carriers.
Apple definitely has the upper hand in this respect, but I think we all put too much pressure on Google to do some kind of consolidation of the platform. Since it's open source, they're supposed to just be able to put something out, wash their hands of it, and say "alright this is where you people come in." Having a closed system like the iPhone OS certainly helps, but even its new versions get tested on their home networks before they're released; we just don't really hear about it. Maybe if Google took a similar approach with test phones for each carrier? I feel that we don't know nearly enough about how much programming OEMs do and what kind of over-exhausted tests carriers run before updates roll out to make any judgements.
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having 3 OS' is not the fragmentation that everyone would want you to believe it is... still fragmented but not to the point where Android would crash in around itself
@SteveyAyo
I agree, and I hope I don't get downranked for it. As people who get into this kind of stuff, it's really easily for us to blow these things out of perspective, especially since the cell phone world moves at such a blistering pace and we're all about the next best thing. But when you compare Android 1.6 to other platforms, it's pretty well rounded as a whole and is only missing a few things that the average consumer probably wouldn't miss. 2.0/2.1 is higher spec and is a better fit for those higher end devices. If I was a manufacturer, I'd be hesitant to upgrade my older devices too, for fear of risking cannibalizing my own sales. I'd want you to buy the new premium one, not ask me for an upgrade for your old one. Just sayin....
@JDubbs115 did you just imply you would get downranked for agreeing with me? ouch
@SteveyAyo
Haha no, not because of you, but because every tech media company seems to have everyone's attention in flaming Google for "fragmentation". Although...
@JDubbs115 aww well at the end of the day "fragmentation" is getting completely blown out of proportion at this point, lets just allow Google to push the bounds of mobile technology and demand better service from our OEMs
@JDubbs115 I agree with you, from a carrier/phone manufacturer perspective. From a user/consumer perspective, and possibly a developer perspective, I would say this is where Apple and the iPhone have the upper hand. Updates aren't dependent on the carrier, everyone has access to the update on day one, and I can reliably start using new features of the OS from day one and be reasonably sure that almost everyone can use them. What Google needs is a way for the OS (or at least major parts of it) to be updated independently of the carriers.
@s73v3r
Apple definitely has the upper hand in this respect, but I think we all put too much pressure on Google to do some kind of consolidation of the platform. Since it's open source, they're supposed to just be able to put something out, wash their hands of it, and say "alright this is where you people come in."
Having a closed system like the iPhone OS certainly helps, but even its new versions get tested on their home networks before they're released; we just don't really hear about it. Maybe if Google took a similar approach with test phones for each carrier? I feel that we don't know nearly enough about how much programming OEMs do and what kind of over-exhausted tests carriers run before updates roll out to make any judgements.