@Gabe Well, I can't speak for Josh, but I completely agree with Jobs that the world needs more editors. Engadget looks like and acts with the speed of a blog, but we're not some random dudes -- we're a multimillion-dollar business that's just one small part of a very large media company, and even though we have a lot of fun, we ultimately take what we do very seriously.
Every single Engadget editor from Josh on down has had a post ripped to shreds, re-written, or simply thrown out because it wasn't up to snuff, and once we do actually post something, we have millions of passionate and informed readers like you who check us even harder. Our success ultimately comes down to our credibility with readers, which we work extremely hard to build and maintain -- and the best way to do that is to edit.
@Nilay Patel "we're not some random dudes -- we're a multimillion-dollar business that's just one small part of a very large media company, and even though we have a lot of fun, we ultimately take what we do very seriously."
OK then Mr Patel - so please, then, be professional and use journalistic ethics and give your readers non-partisan coverage that reflects the real technology world not the world inside the apple bubble
What other worthwhile tech news was going on, right now, that could have been posted as opposed to this coverage? Is no news better than Apple news in your little world?
@Gabe : I agree with Jobs that the world needs more editors. (Actually, I wrote a paper on this a while ago. Editing news is an art form, and it's important). However, I detect an old-fashioned picture of what an editor is; a member of a giant organization that also writes the news being edited.
Just like Jobs hints at with music, video and software, I think news will only become less centralized; it's not going to turn around. Lots of journalists publishing their own content, which gets picked up appropriately. The missing bit in that picture is editors. That service can be decentralized, too. If you look at something like Feedly or Google Reader, you get crowd-powered editing on the subset of news you opt to read. Digg provides a different approach, but it's still crowd-powered, which is (while interesting) not very artistic.
The trick is convincing people that the service is worth money. That is probably easier when you own both the content and the metadata.
When I need to waste time moving the web page down to identify whether there is useful technology news, I need to admit that no news is better than Apple news.
I am interested in Apple news, but one article for one opinion is too much.
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steve jobs looks like a bird
engadget it sounds like Steve Jobs doesn't think much of u guys as journalists but more like bloggers.
Which is it?
Josh?
@Gabe Well, I can't speak for Josh, but I completely agree with Jobs that the world needs more editors. Engadget looks like and acts with the speed of a blog, but we're not some random dudes -- we're a multimillion-dollar business that's just one small part of a very large media company, and even though we have a lot of fun, we ultimately take what we do very seriously.
Every single Engadget editor from Josh on down has had a post ripped to shreds, re-written, or simply thrown out because it wasn't up to snuff, and once we do actually post something, we have millions of passionate and informed readers like you who check us even harder. Our success ultimately comes down to our credibility with readers, which we work extremely hard to build and maintain -- and the best way to do that is to edit.
@Nilay Patel "we're not some random dudes -- we're a multimillion-dollar business that's just one small part of a very large media company, and even though we have a lot of fun, we ultimately take what we do very seriously."
OK then Mr Patel - so please, then, be professional and use journalistic ethics and give your readers non-partisan coverage that reflects the real technology world not the world inside the apple bubble
@ajwoodhouse The Apple "bubble" is kind of very big right now.
@Nilay Patel
Nilay, I'd like to say that you are the man.
@Atkins Market share wise?
@ajwoodhouse Attention-wise. If people are clicking mostly on Apple articles, there will be more of them - pretty logical. The market has spoken.
@ajwoodhouse
What other worthwhile tech news was going on, right now, that could have been posted as opposed to this coverage? Is no news better than Apple news in your little world?
@Gabe : I agree with Jobs that the world needs more editors. (Actually, I wrote a paper on this a while ago. Editing news is an art form, and it's important). However, I detect an old-fashioned picture of what an editor is; a member of a giant organization that also writes the news being edited.
Just like Jobs hints at with music, video and software, I think news will only become less centralized; it's not going to turn around. Lots of journalists publishing their own content, which gets picked up appropriately. The missing bit in that picture is editors. That service can be decentralized, too. If you look at something like Feedly or Google Reader, you get crowd-powered editing on the subset of news you opt to read. Digg provides a different approach, but it's still crowd-powered, which is (while interesting) not very artistic.
The trick is convincing people that the service is worth money. That is probably easier when you own both the content and the metadata.
@Picklesworth
Actually the world needs fewer blogs with the remaining ones being properly edited.
Or, in other words, let news on the net evolve in the same way the newspapers did.
@ebon
When I need to waste time moving the web page down to identify whether there is useful technology news, I need to admit that no news is better than Apple news.
I am interested in Apple news, but one article for one opinion is too much.
@Nilay Patel tu bahu dahyo chhe.