Steve Jobs' WWDC keynote live on Engadget this Monday, 10AM PT / 1PM ET!
By Joshua Topolsky 
posted June 4th 2010 2:04PM
posted June 4th 2010 2:04PM
Here's the info:
The keynote will start at 10AM PT on Monday, June 7th. Here's the URL that you'll want to be planted at for the proceedings, and below is a handful of timezone information, just in case you hate doing the math.
07:00AM - Hawaii
10:00AM - Pacific
11:00AM - Mountain
12:00PM - Central
01:00PM - Eastern
06:00PM - London
07:00PM - Paris
09:00PM - Moscow
02:00AM - Tokyo (June 8th)
iPhone 4G?!?
@PlatinumSkeet iPhone HD!
@PlatinumSkeet that's definitely not the name... apple has been using lame names lately.
pal :)
@both of yall iPhone 4GHD!!
@PlatinumSkeet I wonder how it looks....
@PlatinumSkeet rumour is he is actually gonna release a new fashion line called itrendy
@Processing iPhone with built-in hair straighteners?!
@PlatinumSkeet
actually it's gonna be iPhone 3GSX ;)
@PlatinumSkeet
iPhone 4GS Type R
@PlatinumSkeet I honestly think that the evo launch was a bold move seeing that it launched 3 days before they announce a new iPhone at wwdc (I might be wrong). palm did that and didn't suceed that well. I'm more interested about new software fir iPhone 3gs & ipad then new hardware. But who know I might just get a new iPhone
@PlatinumSkeet
so a priest, a rabbi, and grey powell walk into a bar...
@PlatinumSkeet
Launching a phone with 4G in the name that wasn't actually capable of connecting to a 4G network would be rather lame. Yes, I get that it refers to "4th Gen", but 4G has a completely different meaning.
@Fragmented FYI http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hypocritical
@Fragmented Yuck, now you're gonna turn this thread of win into another flamewar. *sigh*
@UnixSystemsEngineer iPhone 4GHDS Type R with Rumble Expansion Pack
@PlatinumSkeet
I'm hoping for "iPhone 4 Series Phone".
@PlatinumSkeet
iPhone eXXXtreme ... oh wait... that would be bad.
@d3sc3nd3ncy
iPhone 4.0 Type R Black edition Scuderia Le Mans.
@PlatinumSkeet
I'm thinking iPhone 4GHDSXFRONTFACINGCAMERAANDITSSQUARE.
@Tony
I love the iPhone though. I wouldn't be surprised if they went back to just iPhone, it's been long enough. Maybe they'll call it iPhone^2.
@Tony Hi Stevie, you see what I have in my hands? it's called money. Put the phone in Verizon's hands, and the money will go to you. is that simple enough for your company to understand?
@Woody Amen!
@PlatinumSkeet
I think it's gonna be called iPhone Pro
I also expect:
Refreshed mac minis
Refreshed mac pros
Plans for new apple tv with iphone os
And 40 minutues of blah blah blah about iPad sales
@Dking7 How it looks? Hmmm....maybe like all those leaked phones we've seen? Although, as mentioned before, it would be so awesome if it actually looks totally different from what we've seen and Gizmodo paid $5K for KIRF :p
@PlatinumSkeet
Monday? Oh no Apple! What did you do? You didn't go for your lucky Tuesday! End of Apple on Monday!!!!
@PlatinumSkeet
GUYS you can always find a live feed at ustream thats where I watch it. There is always somebody with the live feed on ustream. ALWAYS
@PlatinumSkeet
iPhone
@PlatinumSkeet
iPhone 4G
iPad 2G
iPod Touch 3G (the real next-gen)
@PlatinumSkeet It'll be called iPhone 4D, to represent all the places in space and time that leaked units showed up.
@PlatinumSkeet whoohoo, can't wait.
@Woody
Verizon was one of the first places Jobs took the iPhone to before it came out. Verizon turned him down.
Any complaints about the iPhone not being on Verizon need to be addressed to Verizon's CEO.
@PlatinumSkeet
Mr. Jobs, please buy some clothes this time. Your sale old clothes reek of foul smell!!!!!
@Vidikron
How about iPhone G4? Haha.
@PlatinumSkeet
Hmm ... I wonder if it will support flash.
@Fragmented 4g meaning 4th generation dork.
@Drago and also a bit of talking about OS 4
@PlatinumSkeet
iPad Nano
@Fragmented Here man, GET A CLUE!
May 30, 1:01 PM (ET)
By PETER SVENSSON
NEW YORK (AP) - Cell phone companies are about to barrage consumers with advertising for the next advance in wireless network technology: "4G" access. The companies are promising faster speeds and the thrill of being the first on the block to use a new acronym.
But there's less to 4G than meets the eye, and there's little reason for people to scramble for it, at least for the next few years.
Sprint Nextel Corp. is the first carrier to beat the drum for fourth-generation wireless technology. It's releasing its first 4G phone, the EVO, this week.
In the fall, Verizon Wireless will be firing up its 4G network in 25 to 30 cities, and probably will make a big deal of that. A smaller provider, MetroPCS Communications Inc., is scheduled to introduce its first 4G phone around the same time.
So what is 4G?
Broadly speaking, it's a new way to use the airwaves, designed from the start for the transmission of data rather than phone calls. To do that, it borrows aspects of the latest generation of Wi-Fi, the short-range wireless technology.
For consumers, 4G means, in the ideal case, faster access to data. For instance, streaming video might work better, with less stuttering and higher resolution. Videoconferencing is difficult on 3G and might work better on 4G. Multiplayer video games may benefit too.
Other than that, it's difficult to point to completely new uses for 4G phones - things they can do that 3G phones can't.
Instead, the upgrade to 4G is more likely to enhance the things you can already do with 3G, said Matt Carter, president of Sprint's 4G division.
"View it as the difference between watching regular TV and high-definition TV," Carter said. "Once you've experienced high-definition TV it's hard to go back to standard TV. It's the same sort of thing here."
So the improvement from 3G to 4G is not as dramatic as the step from 2G to 3G, which for the first time made real Web browsing, video and music downloads practical on phones. The introduction of 3G started in earnest about five years ago, but it isn't complete - AT&T Inc. and T-Mobile USA still have little rural 3G coverage, for instance.
There's an important caveat to the claim that 4G will be faster, as well. It will definitely be faster than the 3G networks of Sprint and Verizon Wireless - about four times faster, initially. But the other two national carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile, are upgrading their 3G networks to offer data-transfer speeds that will actually be higher than the speeds 4G networks will reach this year or next. That means that rather than focusing on real speeds, Sprint and Verizon will try to frame their marketing around the "4G" term, said Dan Hays, who focuses on telecommunications at management consulting firm PRTM. "It's a terrible story from a consumer standpoint, because it's tremendously confusing," he said. AT&T and T-Mobile are able to upgrade their 3G networks because they use a different 3G technology than Verizon and Sprint, which have maxed out their 3G speeds. Taking the step to 4G is natural for Verizon and Sprint, especially because they have new chunks of the radio spectrum that they want to take advantage of. The fact that Verizon Wireless and Sprint are adding fresh spectrum may be more important than the fact that they are using it for 4G service.
No matter if used for 4G or 3G, new spectrum means the companies can accommodate more data-hungry devices such as smart phones. AT&T's network is already staggering under data congestion caused by the iPhone in New York and San Francisco. The carrier has made relieving the congestion a top priority this year, and its 3G upgrades are part of that process. (As an aside, there is a lot of talk of a coming "iPhone 4G." Apple Inc. will most likely release the fourth generation of the iPhone for AT&T's network this summer, but it's virtually certain that it will not be able to use a 4G wireless network. It likely won't be called the "iPhone 4G" either.) There's another, more subtle benefit to 4G. While it's not always faster than the best 3G when it comes to helping you download a big file in less time, it is definitely faster in the sense that it takes less time to initiate the flow of data to you. What that means is that 4G is faster for quick back-and-forth communications. You wouldn't notice this when surfing the Web or doing e-mail: We're talking delays of 0.03 second rather than 0.15 second. But it could mean that 4G will work better for multiplayer gaming, where split-second timing is important. Even phone calls could benefit from shorter audio delays. Sprint and Verizon are taking different routes in 4G. Sprint owns a majority of Clearwire Corp., which is building a network using WiMax technology. Once seen as very promising, WiMax looks set to be a niche technology, and WiMax devices like the Sprint EVO phone won't be able to use networks built using the dominant 4G standard, called LTE, for Long Term Evolution. Verizon and MetroPCS plan to use LTE, as does AT&T, starting next year. T-Mobile says it will probably use LTE eventually. Even Sprint hasn't ruled out using LTE eventually, because the technology has huge momentum. In five years or so, many phones are likely to have 4G capabilities, but they'll complement it with 3G. Rather than a sudden revolution, consumers are likely to experience a gradual transition to the new technology, with increasing speeds. But for now, 4G is no magic bullet. "It's an important thing for the industry," said Bill Davidson, senior vice president of marketing and investor relations at wireless technology developer Qualcomm Inc. "It's absolutely needed. ... But I just think some of this has gotten a bit ahead of itself in terms of expectations for consumers."
@krishansy
That's the smell of money in case you didn't know.
Top Story: there's going to be a top story in 3 days.
@PlatinumSkeet iPhone 4...or SDHGHQ##1982382. That just rolls off the tongue doesn't it?
Sweet can't wait, the Evo needs some competition!
@Snarf101
I can't wait as well! I want an Evo really bad but switching carriers is a pain in the ass and wallet. Hopefully jobs puts a little extra "magic" juice in the iPhone HD. It's looking promising, at least to be the most prominent upgrade in iPhone history, the 3G and 3GS were a little dissapointing.
Cheers!
@uck You talking about an Early Termination Fee? I switch to Sprint and their prices are really great.
@Snarf101
This is so totally awesome! The evo,that is.
This is cool too.
@RobK
Yeah it is definitely on my mind to switch. Just gotta see what's in store next Monday. I know this may be a bad reason to stay with AT&T/apple but I have a lot of money into some great apps that I would have to repurchase...
@Snarf101 The iPhone 4G doesn't even have 4G. Hardly competition.
@uck I think that is bad logic on the switch. First, the money you'll save (if you don't have a termination fee) can be used to buy new apps. Second, switching will get you out of that locked 1 option phone market, into a vibrant community where you can easily switch OEMs/carriers/etc, it'll only get harder to switch. Third, it isn't how much you spent overall, but the value of the things that you use currently and often (for example. Spending 200 on games 2.5 years ago that you haven't played in 3 months isn't compelling reason at all to stay, it's the $85 in apps that you use at least once a week. Know what I mean?).
Also, to expand on the last point, in business we call that a "sunk cost", the money is gone whether you have an iPhone or an Evo. The important thing is how much you'll spend to recreate the experience you use today, to the best of your ability...and how much you'll be missing out on (productivity/entertainment) if you can't get an app.
That is really the key point to staying, the app store itself, the content available. Yes, the Android marketplace is growing by leaps and bounds and catching up a bit in some ways. But its the exclusive content that the app store has, IMO, that is the compelling reason to stay, not what you have purchased.
**caveat, I'm just trying to help you think about it differently, your situation, if I knew more, I might actually agree with your point. My point is that most of the time, people can't understand that they have to separate the money they spent from the equation. I hope that helped.
@Snarf101
Try using it for more than 3hrs... I believe your number one nemesis is called Battery Life.
Boom.
@Threlly There went the dynamite.