@iamcriss The only thing that's vaguely similar to Mac OS is the button layout. Oh, and there's a panel on the top instead of on the bottom. Otherwise, the colours, the content of the panels, the overall position of the panel, the widget theme and the presence of menus in the application window are all painstakingly different.
It's like complaining it looks just like Windows because there's a menu.
Apple steels more shit then anybody. You just don't realize it cause they claim they invented everything and just patent other ideas of other people. I'm sure they will soon steel Linux 3d desktop and say it was theirs invention and patent it too. People really need to learn the truth about apple and how they work. Here is one example : http://draginol.joeuser.com/article/318845/No_Mac_zealots_Apple_didnt_invent_the_dock/page/2
@TechHedz Not to mention they didn't make Webkit (that came from Linux (KDE's KHTML, more specifically)), they didn't come up with Spaces all on their own (Again, Linux), nor file indexing (Linux), automated back-up (hell, just about everyone came up with that before them)...
@The Madman Correction: Virtual Desktops came from the Amiga, I think. Or something else really old. I just noticed that Apple made Spaces in nearly exactly the same as they were done in Compiz/Beryl.
@The Madman Well Apple Fanboys will probably still dispute all this even though the evidence is out there. It irritates me cause many just believe what Apple tells them instead of looking into it themselves.
Sorry, but who the fuck cares? I am not in the slightest bit interested in who made what first, not least because the first implementation of an idea usually isn't the best one. All I am interested in is a device that does what I want and doesn't piss me off while doing it. I am not going to debate whether Apple invented X, Y or Z because I simply don't care. What I do care about is that Apple seems pretty good at making good implementations of ideas and therefore producing devices that don't annoy me.
Frankly, much of this just sounds like sour grapes.
@Kelmon We wouldn't mind so much if Apple gave credit where it's due instead of outright ripping-off other people's work and pretending like they put in the man-hours. That's just rude.
True, but they're hardly the only ones. Occasionally, they will also cop to implementing ideas already present in competing products. I distinctly remember Steve Jobs stating on stage that the Fast User Switching was something that Apple implemented in Mac OS X 10.3 based on what was implemented in Windows XP when the OS was unveiled. This is certainly the exception to the rule but it does happen.
It should also be noted that while WebKit was not the invention of Apple, they have ploughed a lot back into this open source project.
@Kelmon The only reason I brought this up was cause I am sick of all these post of how something looks like what Apple created. Thats the only reason I mentioned anything. Im not trying to argue who came up with what first. Just sick of people claiming all the time how something looks or works like what Apple invented.
@Kelmon Webkit was only open-sourced after the KHTML developers pestered Apple's developers about it, and then the development tree was only opened to the public after much more pestering.
It's difficult to say Apple's contributions come from the depths of their heart rather than being something they have to put up with due to open-source licensing. I'll bet they would have used a Linux base to Mac OS if it meant they didn't have to share their code.
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it looks like mac os x seriously haha
@iamcriss The only thing that's vaguely similar to Mac OS is the button layout. Oh, and there's a panel on the top instead of on the bottom. Otherwise, the colours, the content of the panels, the overall position of the panel, the widget theme and the presence of menus in the application window are all painstakingly different.
It's like complaining it looks just like Windows because there's a menu.
@The Madman the similarities go way beyond that
@iamcriss
Apple steels more shit then anybody. You just don't realize it cause they claim they invented everything and just patent other ideas of other people. I'm sure they will soon steel Linux 3d desktop and say it was theirs invention and patent it too. People really need to learn the truth about apple and how they work. Here is one example : http://draginol.joeuser.com/article/318845/No_Mac_zealots_Apple_didnt_invent_the_dock/page/2
@TechHedz Yeah, bad grammar.. I know..
@TechHedz Not to mention they didn't make Webkit (that came from Linux (KDE's KHTML, more specifically)), they didn't come up with Spaces all on their own (Again, Linux), nor file indexing (Linux), automated back-up (hell, just about everyone came up with that before them)...
@The Madman Correction: Virtual Desktops came from the Amiga, I think. Or something else really old. I just noticed that Apple made Spaces in nearly exactly the same as they were done in Compiz/Beryl.
@The Madman Well Apple Fanboys will probably still dispute all this even though the evidence is out there. It irritates me cause many just believe what Apple tells them instead of looking into it themselves.
@TechHedz no more relevant arguments so lets call them fanboys and its done
@Formul No relevant arguments period. You're not standing up to scrutiny very well.
@TechHedz
Sorry, but who the fuck cares? I am not in the slightest bit interested in who made what first, not least because the first implementation of an idea usually isn't the best one. All I am interested in is a device that does what I want and doesn't piss me off while doing it. I am not going to debate whether Apple invented X, Y or Z because I simply don't care. What I do care about is that Apple seems pretty good at making good implementations of ideas and therefore producing devices that don't annoy me.
Frankly, much of this just sounds like sour grapes.
@Kelmon We wouldn't mind so much if Apple gave credit where it's due instead of outright ripping-off other people's work and pretending like they put in the man-hours. That's just rude.
@The Madman
True, but they're hardly the only ones. Occasionally, they will also cop to implementing ideas already present in competing products. I distinctly remember Steve Jobs stating on stage that the Fast User Switching was something that Apple implemented in Mac OS X 10.3 based on what was implemented in Windows XP when the OS was unveiled. This is certainly the exception to the rule but it does happen.
It should also be noted that while WebKit was not the invention of Apple, they have ploughed a lot back into this open source project.
@Kelmon The only reason I brought this up was cause I am sick of all these post of how something looks like what Apple created. Thats the only reason I mentioned anything. Im not trying to argue who came up with what first. Just sick of people claiming all the time how something looks or works like what Apple invented.
@TechHedz so you are just making sure apple will not get credit for anything, thats nice
@Kelmon Webkit was only open-sourced after the KHTML developers pestered Apple's developers about it, and then the development tree was only opened to the public after much more pestering.
It's difficult to say Apple's contributions come from the depths of their heart rather than being something they have to put up with due to open-source licensing. I'll bet they would have used a Linux base to Mac OS if it meant they didn't have to share their code.