Nokia E73 Mode review
Some two years after its release, there are still plenty of people who'll swear up and down that the E71 is the finest phone Nokia has ever produced -- and for good reason. As a platform, S60 was the product of a simpler time when the smartphone market was dominated not by touchscreens, but by numeric keypads, and the E71 was arguably the last of a string of bona fide successes that Nokia enjoyed in the platform's heyday alongside pioneering handsets like the N82 and N95. Thing is, the E71 was different than those other models in a very important way: it was elegant. Historically, Nokias have typically favored function over form and saved the highest-quality materials for the Vertu line, but the E71 bucked that trend -- it was slim, sexy, chock-full of metal, and curved in all the right places. In fact, to this day, it remains one of the best-looking, best-feeling smartphones ever made.
Customers (and reviewers) made their love for the E71 clear, and Nokia sought to recapture the glory with the introduction of the refined, upgraded E72. For Americans, of course, the biggest problem with the E72 was that you couldn't buy it from a carrier -- and unlike the E71, it never got much traction as an unlocked purchase. That's where the E73 Mode comes into play, a mildly reworked version of the E72 with T-Mobile branding and, of course, support for 3G on T-Mobile's AWS bands. Put bluntly, though, this is still just a warmed-over E71 -- and in 2010, is there a market for that? Let's have a look.
Having been nearly a year since we'd used an E71, we felt right at home the first time we wrapped our hand around the E73 -- it's obvious that Nokia put effort into preserving the magic that made the E71 such a great piece of hardware. For those of you who haven't played with an E71, though, you don't know what that means -- so allow us to wax poetic for a bit. The E73 clocks in at just over 10 millimeters thick, but for some reason, it feels even thinner; that's probably a result of some creative curves along either side of the back, a trick similar to the E71's. The battery cover is a solid piece of metal that looks and feels great, though it has a tendency to smudge and oil up very, very easily, so you'll want to keep a lint-free cloth (or, you know, a shirt sleeve) handy for when you're trying to keep appearances.
The E73 also shares what might be its single most important trait with the E71: rock-solid construction. Nokias -- even modern devices like the N97 and N900 -- have a tendency toward the plastic end of the spectrum, and creaks, squeaks, and wobbles aren't out of the question (the N95 was particularly notorious for feeling a little cheap). That might all change with the N8, but for now, the kind of monocoque shell employed by the E73 is still a bit of a rarity. It feels absolutely fantastic in the hand, perfectly weighted and contoured.
If there was a complaint to be levied against the E71's design, it'd have to be the keyboard; the rows were straight across rather than being curved upwards like most well-regarded portrait QWERTY handsets (BlackBerrys, for instance), and the keys -- while well-contoured -- didn't have quite enough "click" to them. The E73 adds a hint of curve, but the key design and feel remain the same. We're not huge on portrait QWERTY keyboards in general, admittedly -- but whereas we'd be able to get proficient on a BlackBerry Bold within a minute of picking it up, we never stopped regularly making typos on the E73. It wasn't disastrous enough to break the deal, but we do think Nokia could've made some minor changes here that would've helped immensely.
Similarly, the navigation keys above the keyboard are a little weird (albeit for different reasons). This is actually an area where the Mode has taken a small step backward from the E71, because the shortcut keys for Home, Calendar, Address Book, and Mail are no longer delineated. Instead, they share the same piece of plastic as the soft keys and the Send / End buttons, giving the functions far less positive feel than we'd like -- especially since they're mushy, to boot. The center is dominated by the d-pad, a four-way rocking ring with an optical pad in the middle. It seems Nokia got a little too ambitious here with the spec sheet; they should've picked a rocker or an optical pad, not both, because we found the pad uncomfortable to "swipe" when it's surrounded by a raised ring. It's not a huge problem -- we just turned off the optical pad and used the ring the same way you would on an E71 -- but we would've been fine with a properly-designed optical pad alone, too.
The screen is a landscape QVGA unit, a relic of days gone by -- but that's just a reflection of the underlying operating system as much as anything else. Using the E73 is a serious time warp, though it does at least manage to use S60 3.2, a bump up from the Eseries-customized build of 3.1 used on the E71. In practice, that means you'll enjoy some quaint screen transitions (which look pretty awful compared to the transitions on any current Android device or iPhone), a clock and third soft key on many screens, a new gallery app, and other refinements sprinkled throughout. The browser is typical S60 fare, which is to say quite good -- by 2007 standards, anyway -- employing a WebKit rendering engine along with Flash Lite 3.0 support. Sure enough, Engadget's full site, our gold standard for this sort of test, rendered just fine -- but it was painfully slow to complete and actually continued to periodically freeze up while scrolling even after loading had completed (probably Flash's fault, if we had to guess). Indeed, the E73's processor, just like the platform itself, is straight out of yesteryear.
On the bright side, T-Mobile has done a marvelous job of staying hands-off with the E73's software build, leaving it nearly bone stock (compare that to the debacle of AT&T's butchered E71x, for instance). Don't get us wrong, there's quite a bit of software in ROM, but it's actually all stuff you probably would've downloaded anyway, believe it or not -- no, seriously. Stuff like Google Mobile, YouTube, Adobe Reader, QuickOffice, Psiloc's Wireless Presenter, and Ovi Maps with free turn-by-turn nav is all bundled, and about the only two things you'll find with a whiff of T-Mobile influence are TeleNav and access to visual voicemail. Good stuff.
Nokia isn't really playing up the E73's front-facing camera, and it turns out there's a good reason for that. Strangely, this is one place where T-Mobile's ROM customization actually didn't go far enough, because the E73 lets you try to place video calls as though you were connected to a network that supports them (T-Mobile's network -- just like AT&T's -- does not). You do this just as you would on any other modern S60 phone, so it's obvious that someone just forgot to take out this menu item; clicking on it tries to make a call, followed by an error message a couple seconds later. Not a big deal, but it's a little sloppy. What bothers us more is that there's no great way to video call on the phone over Skype or a similar service; Fring is the only viable option that we're aware of, but it's awkward to use and (in our case, anyway) extremely buggy. We'd recommend sticking with voice until Fring gets better -- way, way better -- or another player like Qik gets into the game.
Speaking of the camera, the E73's primary shooter -- a 5 megapixel unit with LED flash -- wasn't half bad, especially considering that the phone is far from a multimedia-centric device. We'd love to have had a dedicated two-position camera key, but in lieu of that, we found autofocus and shutter lag to be pretty minimal. Picture quality was pretty solid, with little noise and a JPEG compression rate high enough to keep visible distortion to a minimum. Macro mode was a bit weak -- we couldn't focus nearly as close as we can on most modern handsets with dedicated macro modes -- but it still gave us an advantage for close-up shots over the standard setting.
As audio quality goes, the Mode's earpiece was crisp and very loud at the maximum setting; the loudspeaker less so, which surprised us considering the large three-hole grill to the left of the camera lens. It's usable in a room with little to moderate noise, but recently, we've noticed a trend toward very loud speakerphones on these devices that can nearly hold their own against traditional desk phones -- and needless to say, the E73 doesn't fall into that category. That might not be a big deal for many potential buyers, but considering the Eseries' traditionally business-heavy leanings, it's more of a consideration than it'd be otherwise.
Unlike T-Mobile's other recent Symbian offering -- the forgettable Nuron -- we're inclined to think that the E73 has earned its keep, and there are people out there for whom this phone legitimately makes sense. Don't get us wrong, anyone coming from a G1, myTouch 3G, iPhone, Pre, or the like is going to be troubled by S60's aged, tired feel, but at the end of the day, this is still a very capable, versatile platform that can do pretty much anything you need it to -- as long as you know how to coax it, you can figure out what software to download, and you've got enough patience to let that geriatric silicon plod along.
What ultimately makes the Mode a potential winner, though, is the price -- we're talking about $69.99 for a legitimate 5 megapixel smartphone that looks (and feels) like it's been wrought from a single ingot of steel. S60's still a tough sell against virtually any other smartphone platform in T-Mobile's lineup today, sure, but when you consider that throwaway dumbphones like the Samsung Comeback and Highlight are selling in the same price range, it becomes a more interesting proposition. Indeed, Nokia has made no secret of the fact that it's looking to Symbian to help push smartphone tech deeper into the low end of the market over the next several years -- and if that means gorgeous $70 hardware, that's just fine by us.
Customers (and reviewers) made their love for the E71 clear, and Nokia sought to recapture the glory with the introduction of the refined, upgraded E72. For Americans, of course, the biggest problem with the E72 was that you couldn't buy it from a carrier -- and unlike the E71, it never got much traction as an unlocked purchase. That's where the E73 Mode comes into play, a mildly reworked version of the E72 with T-Mobile branding and, of course, support for 3G on T-Mobile's AWS bands. Put bluntly, though, this is still just a warmed-over E71 -- and in 2010, is there a market for that? Let's have a look.
Having been nearly a year since we'd used an E71, we felt right at home the first time we wrapped our hand around the E73 -- it's obvious that Nokia put effort into preserving the magic that made the E71 such a great piece of hardware. For those of you who haven't played with an E71, though, you don't know what that means -- so allow us to wax poetic for a bit. The E73 clocks in at just over 10 millimeters thick, but for some reason, it feels even thinner; that's probably a result of some creative curves along either side of the back, a trick similar to the E71's. The battery cover is a solid piece of metal that looks and feels great, though it has a tendency to smudge and oil up very, very easily, so you'll want to keep a lint-free cloth (or, you know, a shirt sleeve) handy for when you're trying to keep appearances.
The E73 also shares what might be its single most important trait with the E71: rock-solid construction. Nokias -- even modern devices like the N97 and N900 -- have a tendency toward the plastic end of the spectrum, and creaks, squeaks, and wobbles aren't out of the question (the N95 was particularly notorious for feeling a little cheap). That might all change with the N8, but for now, the kind of monocoque shell employed by the E73 is still a bit of a rarity. It feels absolutely fantastic in the hand, perfectly weighted and contoured.

If there was a complaint to be levied against the E71's design, it'd have to be the keyboard; the rows were straight across rather than being curved upwards like most well-regarded portrait QWERTY handsets (BlackBerrys, for instance), and the keys -- while well-contoured -- didn't have quite enough "click" to them. The E73 adds a hint of curve, but the key design and feel remain the same. We're not huge on portrait QWERTY keyboards in general, admittedly -- but whereas we'd be able to get proficient on a BlackBerry Bold within a minute of picking it up, we never stopped regularly making typos on the E73. It wasn't disastrous enough to break the deal, but we do think Nokia could've made some minor changes here that would've helped immensely.
Similarly, the navigation keys above the keyboard are a little weird (albeit for different reasons). This is actually an area where the Mode has taken a small step backward from the E71, because the shortcut keys for Home, Calendar, Address Book, and Mail are no longer delineated. Instead, they share the same piece of plastic as the soft keys and the Send / End buttons, giving the functions far less positive feel than we'd like -- especially since they're mushy, to boot. The center is dominated by the d-pad, a four-way rocking ring with an optical pad in the middle. It seems Nokia got a little too ambitious here with the spec sheet; they should've picked a rocker or an optical pad, not both, because we found the pad uncomfortable to "swipe" when it's surrounded by a raised ring. It's not a huge problem -- we just turned off the optical pad and used the ring the same way you would on an E71 -- but we would've been fine with a properly-designed optical pad alone, too.

The screen is a landscape QVGA unit, a relic of days gone by -- but that's just a reflection of the underlying operating system as much as anything else. Using the E73 is a serious time warp, though it does at least manage to use S60 3.2, a bump up from the Eseries-customized build of 3.1 used on the E71. In practice, that means you'll enjoy some quaint screen transitions (which look pretty awful compared to the transitions on any current Android device or iPhone), a clock and third soft key on many screens, a new gallery app, and other refinements sprinkled throughout. The browser is typical S60 fare, which is to say quite good -- by 2007 standards, anyway -- employing a WebKit rendering engine along with Flash Lite 3.0 support. Sure enough, Engadget's full site, our gold standard for this sort of test, rendered just fine -- but it was painfully slow to complete and actually continued to periodically freeze up while scrolling even after loading had completed (probably Flash's fault, if we had to guess). Indeed, the E73's processor, just like the platform itself, is straight out of yesteryear.
On the bright side, T-Mobile has done a marvelous job of staying hands-off with the E73's software build, leaving it nearly bone stock (compare that to the debacle of AT&T's butchered E71x, for instance). Don't get us wrong, there's quite a bit of software in ROM, but it's actually all stuff you probably would've downloaded anyway, believe it or not -- no, seriously. Stuff like Google Mobile, YouTube, Adobe Reader, QuickOffice, Psiloc's Wireless Presenter, and Ovi Maps with free turn-by-turn nav is all bundled, and about the only two things you'll find with a whiff of T-Mobile influence are TeleNav and access to visual voicemail. Good stuff.
Nokia isn't really playing up the E73's front-facing camera, and it turns out there's a good reason for that. Strangely, this is one place where T-Mobile's ROM customization actually didn't go far enough, because the E73 lets you try to place video calls as though you were connected to a network that supports them (T-Mobile's network -- just like AT&T's -- does not). You do this just as you would on any other modern S60 phone, so it's obvious that someone just forgot to take out this menu item; clicking on it tries to make a call, followed by an error message a couple seconds later. Not a big deal, but it's a little sloppy. What bothers us more is that there's no great way to video call on the phone over Skype or a similar service; Fring is the only viable option that we're aware of, but it's awkward to use and (in our case, anyway) extremely buggy. We'd recommend sticking with voice until Fring gets better -- way, way better -- or another player like Qik gets into the game.


Speaking of the camera, the E73's primary shooter -- a 5 megapixel unit with LED flash -- wasn't half bad, especially considering that the phone is far from a multimedia-centric device. We'd love to have had a dedicated two-position camera key, but in lieu of that, we found autofocus and shutter lag to be pretty minimal. Picture quality was pretty solid, with little noise and a JPEG compression rate high enough to keep visible distortion to a minimum. Macro mode was a bit weak -- we couldn't focus nearly as close as we can on most modern handsets with dedicated macro modes -- but it still gave us an advantage for close-up shots over the standard setting.
As audio quality goes, the Mode's earpiece was crisp and very loud at the maximum setting; the loudspeaker less so, which surprised us considering the large three-hole grill to the left of the camera lens. It's usable in a room with little to moderate noise, but recently, we've noticed a trend toward very loud speakerphones on these devices that can nearly hold their own against traditional desk phones -- and needless to say, the E73 doesn't fall into that category. That might not be a big deal for many potential buyers, but considering the Eseries' traditionally business-heavy leanings, it's more of a consideration than it'd be otherwise.
Wrap-up
Unlike T-Mobile's other recent Symbian offering -- the forgettable Nuron -- we're inclined to think that the E73 has earned its keep, and there are people out there for whom this phone legitimately makes sense. Don't get us wrong, anyone coming from a G1, myTouch 3G, iPhone, Pre, or the like is going to be troubled by S60's aged, tired feel, but at the end of the day, this is still a very capable, versatile platform that can do pretty much anything you need it to -- as long as you know how to coax it, you can figure out what software to download, and you've got enough patience to let that geriatric silicon plod along.

What ultimately makes the Mode a potential winner, though, is the price -- we're talking about $69.99 for a legitimate 5 megapixel smartphone that looks (and feels) like it's been wrought from a single ingot of steel. S60's still a tough sell against virtually any other smartphone platform in T-Mobile's lineup today, sure, but when you consider that throwaway dumbphones like the Samsung Comeback and Highlight are selling in the same price range, it becomes a more interesting proposition. Indeed, Nokia has made no secret of the fact that it's looking to Symbian to help push smartphone tech deeper into the low end of the market over the next several years -- and if that means gorgeous $70 hardware, that's just fine by us.




























Everyone I know swears by the Nokia E71 and E72. It's for business mainly, not geeky fun and games. This is what Don Draper would use.
At the end of the day, having a large screen is what I like to have in a phone, so I have to shop for vertical or horizontal sliders. On screen touch keyboards are OK, but I end up missing real keyboards when texting.
@lnm4444
Exactly. The target market wasn't consumers but people who have a need\want for Symbian for business use. The E63 is\was the slightly more consumer-centric version.
Nokia sucks... no twitter app for any of their phones. Took Blackberry long enough but they have something, no doubt the iphone has as well.
@lnm4444
well, i disagree. my E71 is a piece of garbage and i hate it passionately. look up my other comments for a lengthy overview of all the flaws the E71 comes with.
And yeah, please rank me down since ``its all waaaay better now''.
@Don G
There is a REALLY good twitter client for Symbian called "Gravity." Yes it is a paid third-party app, but honestly, even using BB/iPhone/Android alternatives, Gravity really shines.
@lnm4444
Not for games??? I've installed SNES, SEGA GENESIS, and GBA emulators on my E61i and haven't looked back since.
@lnm4444
It doesn't have proper IMAP support... and managing connections is HORRIBLE on the E72... The E72 constantly bugged you about which connection to use WiFi or 3G. Nokia has built in profiles for connections but the majority of the Applications EVEN the ones built by Nokia don't take advantage of it. The calendar application doesn't support multiple calendars only 1.
The majority of the built in applications and I'm talking about the ones that ship from Nokia. If the E73 software is anything like the E72 people will most likely hate it.
@lnm4444
And of course it also appeals to the youth/young adult segment that are heavy into qwerty devices.
The E70's are definitely capable devices and the software, while aging, is the best among its competitors for the form factor. As far as I know, Nokia;s E devices hold their own or even better the sales performance of the RIM devices.
And to think that at one point they wanted to dissolve their E division. It actually turned out to be their most consistent, quality devices and appeals to a wide market.
@lnm4444
You know what? I've owned a Nokia E72 for 6 months, and I HATE it. It can't even manage connections properly, asking which connection to use all the time, can't manage e-mail properly, and the build quality, although somewhat good, is plagued with lots of light leaks around the keyboard. The web browser is dated and can't load heavy websites and crashes are an expected thing.
Most importantly however, the e-mail client just sucks. I bought the phone mainly for its "excellent" e-mail features but the e-mail client crashes all the time, and it recently got bugged down to shit speed because of the many e-mails I receive.
You can also look at the Nokia discussion website and see the constant deluge of errors and bugs the consumers are finding.
@mngharry
I have heard the issues before, and usually setting a default gateway fixes these "errors". On the email, I am surprised, I have never had an issue with the E71 this device is based on...
Seems the Mode will be a good buy.
@lnm4444 why not comparing to similar phones in similar form factors like those blackberry's - instead of comparing it to the palm pri, iphone. I've got the E71 and it's the most reliable phone with top notch battery life - this baby is a mean little effecient machine, it does everything in a compact way without eating your data traffic or battery life. Thumbs up for these Nokia phones, the best that has been made by the finns!!
Hell yea!!
Now if only they'd bring it to Canada then I can die happy
@Frosty You can almost guarantee WIND and Mobilicity will get them. They've been almost getting every single AWS handset T-Mob has launched lately (well maybe except the Androids).
Most of the people who would have wanted to buy an E72 unlocked already had an unlocked E71. As much as I love the hardware of my E71, there just aren't enough good apps on the Ovi store to keep me away from Android.
What's up with Engadget? Is this the Nokia day. That's more coverage on one day than in the last month. Did it finally strike you that Nokia is a big player?
@SeeKo Nokia is a big player everywhere except the high end these days. Maybe they'll change that this year.
@SeeKo Nokia is a big player just about everywhere but the US. A lot of their really good phones just aren't available in the US from a major carrier. Which is a problem because that's how some 99% of Americans buy their phones, after looking at them in the store. They also don't want to pay $500 for an unlocked smartphone.
I loves my E71, its my daily driver. With podcasts, internet radio ect it provides all i need for the road bar a big screen, hence why i picked up the Streak. Ended up still using the E71 for 90% of the time..
Officially "Nokia Day" at Engadget
@xinjii
Ofcourse Engadget couldn't resist taking a dig by comparing it with iPhone. Engadget editors, the E73 is not meant for people who buy iPhones - you do know that there are companies in this world who sell across all segments and not just the $600+ all-touch toy segment? And on top of that you are comparing S60 which is a UI framework designed for non-touch with touch OSs like iOS and Android? For crying out loud....
That being said, I hate the optical D-pad. IMHO they went a step backwards from the E71 which was a perfect phone from all aspects.
I'm fairly sure I'll still be using my E71 for a good number of years, supplemented by a Streak.
Actually, Nokia also uses 'luxury' materials in their 8XXX series. Not just their Vertu lineup.
@iLoveApple, that's what the new S line is all about. If you care more for form than for function, that is.
What a con. This IS an e72. Completely identical. The back is identical, the only difference is the cheaper material used and the reworked soft-key layout.
@KingFaisal94 It's carrier branded, using cheaper parts so the phone would cost less.
A steel E72 subsidized by T-Mo would be awesome, but I bet they would certainly charge more for it. =(
@N900 Yeah, but wtf! How dare they call it an e73!
@KingFaisal94 It also supports UMA wifi calling. That's the big difference from the E72
Engadget missed the real reason they find the keyboard slightly imperfect - the bloody phone isn't BIG enough. All the Engadget people must have little girly hands because I found the E71's metal exterior be like holding a dull knife..uncomfortable for more than a couple minutes at a time. And you do have to actually hold on to it because its a little slippery like an iPhone. I would actually get red lines on my palm from the sides of it. The excessive miniaturization also plays hell with the navi buttons which Nokia illogically turned into a cluster of conjoined plastic. And the actual D button? Ugh. Who thought that putting a sharpened ring around that thing made sense? Hello, people don't push stuff with the *sides* of their fingers, they instinctively use their pads. Lastly, they were dead-on regarding AT&T's butchery of the OS. I took the E71x back pretty quickly and finally ended up with a Blackberry. Not perfect, but not nearly as locked down, either. And RIM understands ergonomics if nothing else. If they would just add a dedicated period key..
@psycros
I agree with you e71/72 are too small for my big hand, this is why I ended up with a BB Bold.
But this is less and less true, the Curve is smaller and so is the Perl and even Bold2..
"anyone coming from a G1, myTouch 3G, iPhone, Pre, or the like is going to be troubled by S60's aged, tired feel"
The G1 and myTouch 3G? Really? Sure, they're Andoid devices, but they're old and slow. One thing that the E71/E72 had going for them was that they were very quick in operation, probably due to the fact that S60 itself is quite a frugal OS. Personally, I'd rather rock a E73 than a G1 or myTouch 3G today, simply for the fact that they're quite sluggish phones.
I had an E71x and it was very nice like said earlier for business it is just solid and with the dual home screens very functional for me.
I got AT&T's e71x and after some hacking and removal of the AT&T bloat, the e71x while not flashy, was super solid and reliable for business use...I can only imagine the e73 as being similarly reliable. I'd say this was made for business.
@Mercurysunblast
Yes, I think its a huge plus that this device has its original software!
@Mercurysunblast
I also own a E71x, it's a pretty good phone. However, I got a defective unit which had some light-bleeding and I got dust under the screen. Now I have a iPhone 3G 16GB which belonged to my father before he had to switch to a BB.
The Nokia's WiFi/data reception quality is vastly superior to the iPhone and the iPhone is ugly as hell.
Had an e63 for over a year. Best phone I've ever owned. Recently lost it and have a beater. Should have waited for this, but I think I'll be picking up a s^3 phone when it comes time for a new smart phone.
"creaks, squeaks, and wobbles aren't out of the question" ?
My N900 is rock solid and I've dropped it several times from distances of 2 to 4 feet. Not a scratch. This thing is built like a tank. Nokia knows how to build phones that can really take some punishment. Unlike for example that beautiful iPhone 4 that will have cracks all over from a single drop from 2 feet.
Nokia designs the casings to soften then blows, that might mean that it feels it gives a little if when you squeeze and prod, but it is actually meant to dampen the blows. When I pay for top of the line smartphone, I would like it to survive too. On the other hand, I bet Apple is making loads of money from people replacing all those broken iPhones.
It may be a "portrait" device, but it has more of a real keyboard usability (direct click for apostrophe, question, exclamation...) than many landscape ones...
E71 is awesome! E73 looks more like a E72, and the soft-keys look terrible. I got an E71 like 3 months before the E72 came out and I was not about to drop 400 bucks after having just payed 300 for my unlocked E71. I love everything about my E71 and so do all my friends...all you hear when I'm there is, "Joey can I use your phone?", "Joey check the movie times.", and "Yo get the directions to ????." My phone kicks ass wish it was on 3G but T-Mo doesn't have the same frequency as my phone.
Symbian is a headache. I've gone from WinMo to iphone to android to symbian s60 and currently have a BB 8900 right now (long story...) and I have to say that s60 is just about the biggest piece of nonsense ever.
It really is a huge detriment to the great hardware Nokia has been pushing out. I've always been envious of people with the e71 because the phone just screams out "I'm a million bucks!" But after using it myself, you can tell its a really dated headset. Worst part, of course, is s60.
I found it far from usable even for business. I had it connect to google app through Exchange but s60's inbox system was worse than winmo 6.0's. If not for Opera Mini, the entire phone would have been unusable for me.
Nokia really needs to push out an OS that doesn't scream out "90's Operating System here!!!"
I'm not a huge iphone OS fan but I definitely know why the Europeans got so excited when the iphone entered their markets! Whats worse, app support in the US is horrible. There are no developers for the platform here. If not for, oddly enough, Google's various s60 apps, the e71 might as well have been a dumbphone for me. (One huge exception being Ovi Maps).
If we view iOS 4 and Android 2.2 as the gold standards of where phone OS' should be right now, S60 is the biggest laggard out there! It doesn't have the simplicity of the blackberry OS, no huge app library of WinMo 6.5, and doesn't have the grace of WebOS. (although, it does have genuine multi tasking...).
It's ironic that blackberry gets knocked on for having few apps b/c when I went from s60 to BB OS i moved from not having much of anything to Slacker & Pandora, Stitcher for podcasting, native facebook & Twitter- Seesmic, Bing & Google Apps, foursquare and of course... a pretty good engadget app. All were things I just took for granted on Android- found lacking on symbian s60 and refound on the blackberry.
Nokia- your hardware is pretty awesome when you're running on all cylinders but you need to do something drastic w/symbian. SonyEricsson and everyone else has jumped ship w/it... maybe you guys should too. Of maybe even pull a Microsoft and reboot the entire OS for something no one else is doing on the market. ...
@forward199
1. Symbian has a huge app library. GetJar is one source off the top of my head. Remember that Symbian can install java apps, not just Symbian-specific apps.
2. Comparing iOS and Android to Symbian on an E devices is like comparing airplane wings to car wheels. These are 2 classes of OS designed for specific device forms and usage.
Symbian is highly optimised for 1hand devices and operations. I'd like to see iOS or Android be put into a form factor like the E71 and then be as usable. Fact is, IOS and Android were designed specifically for touchscreen phones. They aren't the gold standard for smartphones. They are standards for touchscreen smartphones. Symbian is the gold standard for more traditional form factors (read, keypad). You simply cannot compare the OS in the same manner.
The problem with people who slag Symbian is that their views of what is a smartphone is very narrow. You seem to think that touchscreen phones are the standard for smartphones. They aren't. The general smartphone market is far larger than the touchscreen market and they come in all sahapes and sizes. And beyond the opinion if we like symbian or not, the fact remains that it is the single most effective smartphone OS for the form factor.
@forward199
That is bull. I went from BB to Nokia and had huge improvements across the board. You are seriously talking out of your rear to call it the biggest laggard as an OS, when you compare it to touchscreen OS's.
What OS can hold its own against Symbian on a non touch device. BB OS? Stop kidding yourself. The E71 was far superior to any BB device out there.
We really should not view iOS or Android as the gold standards. Long before any of those existed, "europeans" were video calling on their nokia's, enjoying reasonably priced plans, and great build quality. Elsewhere, there was the "razor". Right now, neither of the 2 OS you mention has similar capabilities. Nor was the Iphone the saviour of poor europeans. For people that were able to handle Symbian well, the Iphone was a huge step down. Stop spreading your FUD, based on your inability to use the OS properly. Or find Gravity for that matter.
@ounkeo @JHF
I do have a narrow view of smartphones, namely ones that suck! =D haha- sorry, I seem to have hit a nerve, I'm just messing with you.
I do not think touch screen phones are the standard for smartphones. If you remember, Android is actually designed to be run on non touch screen phones! I don't think the touch screen really has anything to do with my criticisms of symbian. As an aside, I have no idea why those two need to be mutually exclusive. They don't. (Palm, HTC, Samsung... and even Nokia agree with me on this point) BUT even if you look simply at non touchscreen smartphones (ie. "smartphones" w/o touch screens), you're telling me you don't see where improvements can be made w/s60? OR are you saying that the developer base for it is on par any of the mobile operating systems that I mentioned?
I cited my specific examples of applications as things that all mobile operating systems should be able to do. I understand of course that not everyone will want to use them but I see it as a sign of something horribly wrong with your platform when you lack the ability to do so.
Symbian highly optimized for one handed operation? I really dont understand what you mean by that. With exception to typing, what phones are not optimized for one handed operations? Do you mean to say that non touch screen smartphones dont have a touch screen and thus things like multi touch (which doesn't really require more than one hand) isn't a concern? How is the e71 any more specialized for one handed operations than a blackberry? (I'm not being sarcastic... that's a real question.)
Real question: What do you guys use for email and web browsing? If you're connecting to your work place, mail for exchange right? Aren't the control options for that seriously lacking? Do you keep it connected or are you pulling? Web browsing? Are you using Opera Mini or the stock browser? Opera is JUST barely able to get the job done and the stock browser is a joke right? right...?? If we can't agree on that point, this is pointless.
Notice none of these criticism has anything to do with the touch screens.
@JHF
why is the e71 better than any blackberry out there? Again, serious question. I really don't understand. I get no joy from running little java applets from the 90's. It takes the gps forever to lock on the e71 and even scrolling down a long document takes forever.
Everyone keeps talking about how great it is for "work" uses but what are you using as your pdf viewer? Don't you miss things like threaded conversations? I'm not just talking about SMS here either. Emails, IM's... all of that. When using your gps, how long does it take it to lock? How long does it take for it to lock? FOREVER? ... Mosts of the time, does it even lock or are you stuck w/a large A-GPS bubble that kinda gives you your location?
Yes, I AM saying that iOS and Android are the current gold standards for what one would want a mobile operating system to be. You can disagree but If you're a developer, what would you be writing applications for? If you're a user and you know a new app OR feature is coming out, on what platform do you expect it to be on?
And skip the "business" or "personal" use distinction because that is a false choice. JPL buys their employees iphones not so that their scientists can run around listening to music. The biggest proponent of the business/personal divide was microsoft and even they're coming around to seeing that the two markets are really just one.
Finally, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT SYMBIAN WAS DOING GREAT THINGS BEFORE ANYONE ELSE. Nor does it matter that video calls were possible in Europe before the US.
@forward199
Finally, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT SYMBIAN WAS DOING GREAT THINGS BEFORE ANYONE ELSE. Nor does it matter that video calls were possible in Europe before the US.
@ounkeo
I agree completely. You also have to consider what is in the price range. Seriously, how many Android phones do you know at this price? Engadget seems to cut Blackberry more slack for making phones like these. The fact of the matter is that this is the best NON-TOUCHSCREEN phone by miles on T-Mobile.
@forward199
why is my original comment being hidden?? Everything is said was true and legitimate!
Gosh- Nokia fans are soo intolerant! Typical! =)
*oh!* got you guys again!
yeah yeah- go ahead and rank this as low too! Never engaging in a discussion w/Nokia fans ever again. bye!
*walks off...*
@forward199
"You can disagree but If you're a developer, what would you be writing applications for?"
The one with the biggest user base.
@forward199
You certainly have a narrow view ;) You mentioned two touch OS while comparing to a non touch OS. And besides, I like a different touch OS better than the two you mentioned. Anywho:
GPS lock, unassisted, about 30 to 60 seconds. With AGPS, about 5 to 15 seconds. Completely acceptable in my book.
I have no issues scrolling down larger files, although I generally used pdf files on the device, maybe other docs are a different story. (Note, the E71 is owned by the gf, not me).
From an app perspective, I think its a wash between the E71 and the Blackberry Curve I used. Gaming on both devices suck, and the rest of the app field is pretty leveled I think. (Although I think Gravity beats all of the BB apps). The FB app on the Curve was ok though.
The E71 beats any blackberry because:
Ovi maps
Build Quality
Camera (small difference, but still wins)
Not going through RIM's servers
Not paying RIM data rates (in the EU, these are 6 times as much as general use. I am right now paying 1.26 Eur/Mb in Italy, while I would pay 8 to 9 Eur/Mb.
Did I mention build quality?
BB also used to have trackballs which sucked.
For all the knocks S60 gets, it still looks a LOT better than the DOS looking BB OS.
Reception. My gf's E71 would have 2 bars when my BB would have none.
Also:
"Symbian highly optimized for one handed operation? I really dont understand what you mean by that"
Not my remark, but allow me to answer. It means being able to do anything while holding the device with one hand. I think the E71 is not the best example of symbians strength in this area, as it is a full qwerty. But, touchscreens require you to use both hands when typing. In fact, Nokia knows this so well, that they have chosen to go with a T9 layout for portrait mode on the N8. You cant operate portrait qwerty with 1 hand. Then, if you use two hands, you might as well use the extra real estate in landscape. Also, using a d-pad enables you to do anything in the device. BB OS is ok with one hand operation, but its harder than S60 5th.
Even if S60 would be worse than BB OS, which it isnt, I would take the E71 as it makes the BB devices feel like cheap plastic toys.
Just my 2 cents.
@JFH
I've said it before and I'll say it again when it comes to usability, I'll take my Treo 650 with old school palm os over my E72. I own both.