@Frasier Dude, Android isn't as good as Symbian, at least not S^3. Just because it's, "new" and, "exciting" doesn't mean it's better, especially in the multitasking area.
That is actually a very good idea. I don't understand why your comment was down ranked. A Nokia device with Android on top would be a total win. Nokia makes great devices, Google makes great software. It's a match made in heaven, and it would be a big hit to Apple. It would bring more unity to the mobile market and Nokia would get a lot of sales. And I'm sure Nokia and Google could work something out (e.g. Nokia could include Ovi Maps on their device -- I would love that! Navigation without data connection FTW especially when going abroad). And, it's not like Nokia didn't buy Symbian and then completely drop it. They afford to make big changes. I wish they'd make this one.
You might be right, but developing apps for Android is much simpler than developing for Symbian. This means there are a lot more apps for Android than for Symbian (and there always will be). Which is a great plus, if you ask me. Also, I hate the Ovi store (I used to have a Nokia phone). Android Market is much better organized.
Yes, the fact that Google was able to create the most used ad platform so far (and by far), the most used search engine and other great products (Gmail, Analytics, ...) proves that they create great software. I understand that your opinion is that Android looks hacked together, but mine differs. I like how Android looks, performs and easily and usefully accomplishes any task I want it to. I like it much better than the iPhone (my brother has one and I've played with it a lot). I'm not a fanboy, I do recognize the iPhone as being a great device, and I applaud Apple for being the first one to create such a device. When it first came out, it was indeed jaw dropping. But the way I see it, Google took that and improved on it with Android.
I don't care what Google makes money from. I care that they build great products.
Their main profit may be from advertising, but their main product is search. Google is not an advertising company.
No moron, Google is a search engine first and foremost, the best in fact. They are also a provider of many different types of services and software. The ads pay for it all.
Now kindly stfu and go back to apple insider or wherever it is you came from.
In case you didn't realize Nokia's gameplan is to become a services provider and no way in hell are they going to give up control of the underlying OS. Come to think of it, they are the only company with 2 mainstream mobile OSs. Going to Android becoz it is cool in the valley will be the biggest mistake Nokia can make. Furthermore, it seems with the newer Nokia OS releases, Android is losing its USP - Android vs S60v5 - Android is a win for sure, Android vs S^3 - I am not too sure anymore, so who knows how S^4 will compare especially since S^3 was touted by Nokia as evolutionary and not revolutionary which is what they claim S^4 will be.
Also from an app developer perspective Qt is much more powerful and familiar than the Android's dev environment. Moreover, Qt compiled apps run natively and not thru a VM so better performance right there.
You might very well be right, but we'll just have to wait and see. There's no way to determine at this point in time which one will be better. However, I think that we can draw some conclusions from the (lack of) success of Maemo, for example. I don't even know which is which: Maemo, MeeGo, Symbian^3. Nokia seems very confused about what to go with, I was just suggesting Android would be a good choice. And it WOULD allow them to be a service provider, because they can tweak it in any way they want (Android is open, remember?) -- they can add Nokia-exclusive apps (as I said earlier, such as Ovi Maps) to the devices but still keep the power, user-base and, most importantly, developer-base of Android.
@Znupi Just because you are confused doesn't mean the company is you know. Thats reaching for a conclusion if ever I've seen it. Android is limited in terms of its deployment across a range of devices. It is a virtual machine enviroment AND nokia spent a couple hundred MILLION open sourcing symbian. What sort of idiot would do that then ditch the operating system? That's right, noone. In my humble opinion, I've seen very little in Android that compels me to believe that it is in any way, shape or form better than symbian or even iOS for that matter. IMHO the only features that Android has over symbian are 1. Constant links to the cloud that allow for OTA app updates and downloads 2. Built in advertising that allows for applications to be significantly cheaper than on other platforms. 3.A rapid rate of development. 4.No actual hardware manufacturing capabilities, meaning users of android do not feel like they are being competed against and thus unlikely to use that platform. If you can think of anything, please let me know, because i certainly cannot.
As for Nokia's strategy, they clearly put up a chart showing exactly where each of the OS's would be with regards to their position in the market. Do a little digging, you'll surely find it.
If their current & better strategy fails, they can always still slap on Android and admit defeat like lesser gods have done. Perhaps they wont dominate the business like they have in the past, but that doesnt matter to me. As long as the N9 & MeeGo gets produced, im fine.
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@Frasier
Maybe they could also make Android phones, but its great to have variety and freedom of choice.
@Frasier Dude, Android isn't as good as Symbian, at least not S^3. Just because it's, "new" and, "exciting" doesn't mean it's better, especially in the multitasking area.
@Frasier
That is actually a very good idea. I don't understand why your comment was down ranked. A Nokia device with Android on top would be a total win. Nokia makes great devices, Google makes great software. It's a match made in heaven, and it would be a big hit to Apple. It would bring more unity to the mobile market and Nokia would get a lot of sales. And I'm sure Nokia and Google could work something out (e.g. Nokia could include Ovi Maps on their device -- I would love that! Navigation without data connection FTW especially when going abroad). And, it's not like Nokia didn't buy Symbian and then completely drop it. They afford to make big changes. I wish they'd make this one.
@The Madman
You might be right, but developing apps for Android is much simpler than developing for Symbian. This means there are a lot more apps for Android than for Symbian (and there always will be). Which is a great plus, if you ask me. Also, I hate the Ovi store (I used to have a Nokia phone). Android Market is much better organized.
@Znupi EXACTLY!
@Frasier
Nokia just spent the last 5 years becoming a content supplier and web services supplier why on earth would they hand all that over to Google ?
I still think S3 looks like a rip of Android though.
@Znupi
Developing for N8 is seven better with QT. Symbian C++ is not considered beginner friendly though.
@Frasier
and you'd be completely wrong.
@Android looks Hacked Together
Yes, the fact that Google was able to create the most used ad platform so far (and by far), the most used search engine and other great products (Gmail, Analytics, ...) proves that they create great software. I understand that your opinion is that Android looks hacked together, but mine differs. I like how Android looks, performs and easily and usefully accomplishes any task I want it to. I like it much better than the iPhone (my brother has one and I've played with it a lot). I'm not a fanboy, I do recognize the iPhone as being a great device, and I applaud Apple for being the first one to create such a device. When it first came out, it was indeed jaw dropping. But the way I see it, Google took that and improved on it with Android.
I don't care what Google makes money from. I care that they build great products.
Their main profit may be from advertising, but their main product is search. Google is not an advertising company.
@fourthletter S^3 is a rip of Nokia's own Maemo OS. Take a look at some screen shots of the N770/800/810/900 and see what looks like what.
I am a current E55 owner and will definitely be buying this unlocked for TMO once it's out.
@Android looks Hacked Together
No moron, Google is a search engine first and foremost, the best in fact. They are also a provider of many different types of services and software. The ads pay for it all.
Now kindly stfu and go back to apple insider or wherever it is you came from.
@Znupi
In case you didn't realize Nokia's gameplan is to become a services provider and no way in hell are they going to give up control of the underlying OS. Come to think of it, they are the only company with 2 mainstream mobile OSs. Going to Android becoz it is cool in the valley will be the biggest mistake Nokia can make. Furthermore, it seems with the newer Nokia OS releases, Android is losing its USP - Android vs S60v5 - Android is a win for sure, Android vs S^3 - I am not too sure anymore, so who knows how S^4 will compare especially since S^3 was touted by Nokia as evolutionary and not revolutionary which is what they claim S^4 will be.
Also from an app developer perspective Qt is much more powerful and familiar than the Android's dev environment. Moreover, Qt compiled apps run natively and not thru a VM so better performance right there.
@naashak
You might very well be right, but we'll just have to wait and see. There's no way to determine at this point in time which one will be better. However, I think that we can draw some conclusions from the (lack of) success of Maemo, for example. I don't even know which is which: Maemo, MeeGo, Symbian^3. Nokia seems very confused about what to go with, I was just suggesting Android would be a good choice. And it WOULD allow them to be a service provider, because they can tweak it in any way they want (Android is open, remember?) -- they can add Nokia-exclusive apps (as I said earlier, such as Ovi Maps) to the devices but still keep the power, user-base and, most importantly, developer-base of Android.
@Znupi
Just because you are confused doesn't mean the company is you know. Thats reaching for a conclusion if ever I've seen it.
Android is limited in terms of its deployment across a range of devices. It is a virtual machine enviroment AND nokia spent a couple hundred MILLION open sourcing symbian. What sort of idiot would do that then ditch the operating system? That's right, noone.
In my humble opinion, I've seen very little in Android that compels me to believe that it is in any way, shape or form better than symbian or even iOS for that matter.
IMHO the only features that Android has over symbian are
1. Constant links to the cloud that allow for OTA app updates and downloads
2. Built in advertising that allows for applications to be significantly cheaper than on other platforms.
3.A rapid rate of development.
4.No actual hardware manufacturing capabilities, meaning users of android do not feel like they are being competed against and thus unlikely to use that platform.
If you can think of anything, please let me know, because i certainly cannot.
As for Nokia's strategy, they clearly put up a chart showing exactly where each of the OS's would be with regards to their position in the market. Do a little digging, you'll surely find it.
@Znupi
If their current & better strategy fails, they can always still slap on Android and admit defeat like lesser gods have done. Perhaps they wont dominate the business like they have in the past, but that doesnt matter to me. As long as the N9 & MeeGo gets produced, im fine.