why would an android user care one whit how many freakin' Jesus phones Foxconn can ship? I've got a BB, and I don't care if they sell none, or 10 million Jesus phones. It's all irrelevant to me.
@BrookLynnsFinest i don't understand why Apple gets criticized for their "hype." The long lines, the busy servers - everybody tries to do it just like apple. The only thing is that Apple actually succeeds. Sorry, but 65,000 EVO units is not impressive, but they still tried with the long lines and "hyped" launch event.
HTC will release the Incredible 2 and the Fandroids will spread across The Marketshare in a sea of blood! When HTC strikes again, the Fandroids will rule all Smartphones! The Android OS will become the Google Empire!
The surviving companies will frighten their children with tales of what the Fandroids did to RIM's marketshare! Steve Jobs will scream as Apple plunges into the sun! We'll keep Apple employees as slaves and eat their ideas as a delicacy!
If you lack the wisdom to flee, then you will be the first of billions to be crushed under our might! For the Google Empire!
All right I'll bite. Its the double standard first of all. For months people have been talking up the Evo 4G as an "iPhone killer". How they were going to be SOLD OUT everywhere and that millions upon millions of people would defect from AT&T.
How the iPhone 4 leaks were a desperate attempt by Apple to keep the floodgates from opening and stop people from going to Sprint for the Evo 4G (where you frandroids cook this stuff up is beyond my imagination).
On top of that you guys were clearly saying that it was going to destroy the iPhone and pretty much make android number 1.
Well that hasn't happened yet. More importantly given these recent developments it's VERY clear to me that it will NEVER happen (or at least not in this next upcoming year).
Apple has defeated all the Haters yet again. Its just comical how you guys get all excited about sales so long as its an android phone.
BUT if its Apple that is selling out everywhere then you guys are like, "meh who cares about sales".
Well clearly you do. Its hypocrisy. I do care and I'll freely admit it. It does matter to me whether Apple/iOS beat google/android. Because that determines the quality of devs who flock to my phone.
You are an IDIOT! I already said I don't even own an Android phone. Nor do I want one. SO direct your anti-android sentiment to the appropriate people. Are you parents as STUPID as you, BTW??
@BrookLynnsFinest you say that like you are somehow invested in this. My guess is emotionally only, not the part that actually financially benefits you in any way...
@BrookLynnsFinest " Its just comical how you guys get all excited about sales"
Yesterday
"To date NOT a single android phone has outperformed nor outsold the iPhone 3GS (and of course the iPhone 4 is coming out which will continue this trend)...You know whos buying them..Apple Haters. People who are jealous of Apple and the iPhones success yet desperately want to be on the same level as android...What everyone does know however is that even if the Droid has sold 4 million phones (which I highly doubt)
The iPhone has sold OVER 55 million.
I fail to see how the droid can even be considered a "success" based on that comparison...."
@BrookLynnsFinest: I don't think us "fandroid" folks will care as much as you think. Let apples numbers be bolstered by its rabid fan base. That's fine. Me? I'm waiting patiently for something apple won't be delivering on for awhile; dual core CPU phones. While I appreciate apples hardware and software, I can't help but see them being left in the dust resulting from the current smartphone hardware wars. In the meantime, I'll keep enjoying my Moto Droid until my next upgrade eligibility and hopefully by that time the Droid X2 will be out!
My man I would like a high five! Android will never beat the iPhone. The sprint evo is not all that great. My brother owns one and is not tht great... The iPhone is way to advance. I mean cone on.. Evol sold 65,000. iPhone owns evo for free.
@BrookLynnsFinest I'm trying to point out how ridiculous this is in general. I don't think it's important for either side to be arguing on about sales? Nor do I think it's that life-altering, if Android phones don't sell as well as the iPhone, or the iPhone is a success.
It doesn't seem right to target you in my argument, seeing as though there are numerous people on the Android side who just troll on Apple.
But inversely, you troll on everyone else, saying Verizon's marketing is a fail, everyone who bought the Droid lineup were "Apple Haters". Android is a fragmented hot-mess of an OS. Christ, it's almost pain-staking to sift through so much unnecessary hate.
But..if you wanna pass that off as "investment", then that's fine. I'll won't say anything else towards the matter..
Now we are equating Apple and by extension a PHONE with slavery? All because you fandroids are bitter, angry, and pretty much in denial about how great Apple does what it does?
Yet with google its not slavery. We don't need your luck. Its been proven time and time again that people actually I dunno ENJOY their iPhones.
Its not like people get the iPhone and they immediately start cursing at their unlucky fate and cry tears of sadness into their pillows each night about the walled garden or why Steve Jobs didn't let "such and such" app into the App Store.
You android fanboys are truly priceless. Hypocrisy at its finest.
@BrookLynnsFinest Do YOU hear yourself? Like honestly for a second step back and read some of your comments, they're terribly amusing.
Everyone who knocks the iPhone or Apple HAS to be a fandroid? really? Just like everyone who buys an Android device HAS to be an Apple hater? Are you that insecure about your phone choice? Yes, I know that now you're going to ramble on about you not being insecure because you have the greatest phone ever made and blah blah blah but that's what it seems like. If you think fandroids are stupid trolls then let them make fools of themselves. All you've done from the moment I started reading any iPhone or Android article on this site is make yourself look like a tool and misrepresent other iPhone fans. It's a great phone, a marvelous piece of technology. So are a bunch of the Android phones coming out and some of Nokia's new devices. Why is that so hard to accept? Last I checked it wasn't a bad thing to have choice.
There's nothing wrong with you defending the iPhone, but you make yourself seem extremely stupid when you declare it the end all be all phone that will never ever get surpassed by anything and that nothing will ever come close to its greatness.
And by the way... as a Sprint/EVO owner I must still admit, Verizon has quite the marketing department. Maybe good enough to take on Apple (though the newly established Evil Empire is still much more powerful) . It is funny that you downplay sales figures of Android vs Apple because "Its just comical how you guys get all excited about sales so long as its an android phone", when the situation is very comparable to Windows VS OSX debate we have had for years now. It is considered acceptable in the gadget world to compare the two even though one simply makes an OS, and the other OS/hardware. Ending my rant (sorry guys), I don't care if you prefer iOS to Android (I personally own both), but to be realistic you have to admit Android is a major emerging threat. Competition only makes better phones.
@TomSawyer According to Apple with this news, last year the 3GS had 60k preorders...I presume those 60k >65k from Evo? Don't forget that HTC has many phones. Apple only has "one". So getting the biggest preorders isn't too hard. I mean the customer base will all buy the same phone. HTC customers buying is scattered over many different phones.
@yader91 did you even read his comment? It was about how the Android posters were hyping up the EVO, then when it fizzled relative to expectations, decided to say "sales don't count" "ATT screwed up" etc etc...when its the same situation they wanted for the EVO.
Did anyone even read dave1812's first comment? He never said a word about killing the iphone, or android's greatness. While the iphone's impact on the smartphone market is obvious and undeniable, the direct impact of it's sales on him, a BB user, or an android user, is minimal. BB will continue to make phones as they see fit, and android phones will be made to fit their target market. Not everyone needs the same phone, no matter much mass appeal it may have.
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God this is just amazing....
Looking forward to that sales report. Let the fandroids weep once again as Apple continues its dominance.
@BrookLynnsFinest
why would an android user care one whit how many freakin' Jesus phones Foxconn can ship? I've got a BB, and I don't care if they sell none, or 10 million Jesus phones. It's all irrelevant to me.
@BrookLynnsFinest
i don't understand why Apple gets criticized for their "hype." The long lines, the busy servers - everybody tries to do it just like apple. The only thing is that Apple actually succeeds. Sorry, but 65,000 EVO units is not impressive, but they still tried with the long lines and "hyped" launch event.
@dave1812
Do I really have to answer that fandroid?
@dave1812
the success of the "jesus phone," as you so condescendingly put it, has a direct effect on the sorts of Blackberries RIM designs and ships.
@BrookLynnsFinest
You really need to get a life...
@BrookLynnsFinest
Do we really have to keep throwing you into oblivion?
HTC will release the Incredible 2 and the Fandroids will spread across The Marketshare in a sea of blood! When HTC strikes again, the Fandroids will rule all Smartphones! The Android OS will become the Google Empire!
The surviving companies will frighten their children with tales of what the Fandroids did to RIM's marketshare! Steve Jobs will scream as Apple plunges into the sun! We'll keep Apple employees as slaves and eat their ideas as a delicacy!
If you lack the wisdom to flee, then you will be the first of billions to be crushed under our might! For the Google Empire!
@dave1812
All right I'll bite. Its the double standard first of all. For months people have been talking up the Evo 4G as an "iPhone killer". How they were going to be SOLD OUT everywhere and that millions upon millions of people would defect from AT&T.
How the iPhone 4 leaks were a desperate attempt by Apple to keep the floodgates from opening and stop people from going to Sprint for the Evo 4G (where you frandroids cook this stuff up is beyond my imagination).
On top of that you guys were clearly saying that it was going to destroy the iPhone and pretty much make android number 1.
Well that hasn't happened yet. More importantly given these recent developments it's VERY clear to me that it will NEVER happen (or at least not in this next upcoming year).
Apple has defeated all the Haters yet again. Its just comical how you guys get all excited about sales so long as its an android phone.
BUT if its Apple that is selling out everywhere then you guys are like, "meh who cares about sales".
Well clearly you do. Its hypocrisy. I do care and I'll freely admit it. It does matter to me whether Apple/iOS beat google/android. Because that determines the quality of devs who flock to my phone.
@BrookLynnsFinest
You are an IDIOT! I already said I don't even own an Android phone. Nor do I want one. SO direct your anti-android sentiment to the appropriate people. Are you parents as STUPID as you, BTW??
@CaryHiroyuki Tagawa
"Eat their ideas as delicacy"...
Do you even realize how much respect you paid them while hating on them?
@BrookLynnsFinest you say that like you are somehow invested in this. My guess is emotionally only, not the part that actually financially benefits you in any way...
@BrookLynnsFinest " Its just comical how you guys get all excited about sales"
Yesterday
"To date NOT a single android phone has outperformed nor outsold the iPhone 3GS (and of course the iPhone 4 is coming out which will continue this trend)...You know whos buying them..Apple Haters. People who are jealous of Apple and the iPhones success yet desperately want to be on the same level as android...What everyone does know however is that even if the Droid has sold 4 million phones (which I highly doubt)
The iPhone has sold OVER 55 million.
I fail to see how the droid can even be considered a "success" based on that comparison...."
@dave1812 Agreed!! Keep that crap on At&t's network so my evo doesn't slow down!!
@BrookLynnsFinest: I don't think us "fandroid" folks will care as much as you think. Let apples numbers be bolstered by its rabid fan base. That's fine. Me? I'm waiting patiently for something apple won't be delivering on for awhile; dual core CPU phones. While I appreciate apples hardware and software, I can't help but see them being left in the dust resulting from the current smartphone hardware wars. In the meantime, I'll keep enjoying my Moto Droid until my next upgrade eligibility and hopefully by that time the Droid X2 will be out!
@CaryHiroyuki Tagawa
You forgot /s
@N900
Where did I say I myself never get excited about sales? No where...
I do get excited by sales. And I'd be disappointed if Apple did not do as well as I had hoped they would.
So try again man. I'm invested. Never hid that
@BrookLynnsFinest
Hey man, the more the better. Just makes it easier to identify dunces.
Here's to wishing you, and the rest of the iPhone mob, the best with your slavery-produced and AT&T enslaved Apple product!
@BrookLynnsFinest
My man I would like a high five! Android will never beat the iPhone. The sprint evo is not all that great. My brother owns one and is not tht great... The iPhone is way to advance. I mean cone on.. Evol sold 65,000. iPhone owns evo for free.
@BrookLynnsFinest I'm trying to point out how ridiculous this is in general. I don't think it's important for either side to be arguing on about sales? Nor do I think it's that life-altering, if Android phones don't sell as well as the iPhone, or the iPhone is a success.
It doesn't seem right to target you in my argument, seeing as though there are numerous people on the Android side who just troll on Apple.
But inversely, you troll on everyone else, saying Verizon's marketing is a fail, everyone who bought the Droid lineup were "Apple Haters". Android is a fragmented hot-mess of an OS. Christ, it's almost pain-staking to sift through so much unnecessary hate.
But..if you wanna pass that off as "investment", then that's fine. I'll won't say anything else towards the matter..
@ShelbyTheGuy
God do you hear yourself?
Now we are equating Apple and by extension a PHONE with slavery? All because you fandroids are bitter, angry, and pretty much in denial about how great Apple does what it does?
Yet with google its not slavery. We don't need your luck. Its been proven time and time again that people actually I dunno ENJOY their iPhones.
Its not like people get the iPhone and they immediately start cursing at their unlucky fate and cry tears of sadness into their pillows each night about the walled garden or why Steve Jobs didn't let "such and such" app into the App Store.
You android fanboys are truly priceless. Hypocrisy at its finest.
@BrookLynnsFinest Do YOU hear yourself? Like honestly for a second step back and read some of your comments, they're terribly amusing.
Everyone who knocks the iPhone or Apple HAS to be a fandroid? really? Just like everyone who buys an Android device HAS to be an Apple hater? Are you that insecure about your phone choice? Yes, I know that now you're going to ramble on about you not being insecure because you have the greatest phone ever made and blah blah blah but that's what it seems like. If you think fandroids are stupid trolls then let them make fools of themselves. All you've done from the moment I started reading any iPhone or Android article on this site is make yourself look like a tool and misrepresent other iPhone fans. It's a great phone, a marvelous piece of technology. So are a bunch of the Android phones coming out and some of Nokia's new devices. Why is that so hard to accept? Last I checked it wasn't a bad thing to have choice.
There's nothing wrong with you defending the iPhone, but you make yourself seem extremely stupid when you declare it the end all be all phone that will never ever get surpassed by anything and that nothing will ever come close to its greatness.
@dave1812 Then why are you reading this article and commenting if you "don't care?" Please
@Mavic119 You can't make phone calls from a spec sheet.
@who said what
I think your sarcasm detector needs adjustment.
@BrookLynnsFinest
Which operating system was on the most devices sold last quarter again?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/195958/android_outsells_apple_iphone_at_last_says_npd.html
And by the way... as a Sprint/EVO owner I must still admit, Verizon has quite the marketing department. Maybe good enough to take on Apple (though the newly established Evil Empire is still much more powerful) . It is funny that you downplay sales figures of Android vs Apple because "Its just comical how you guys get all excited about sales so long as its an android phone", when the situation is very comparable to Windows VS OSX debate we have had for years now. It is considered acceptable in the gadget world to compare the two even though one simply makes an OS, and the other OS/hardware. Ending my rant (sorry guys), I don't care if you prefer iOS to Android (I personally own both), but to be realistic you have to admit Android is a major emerging threat. Competition only makes better phones.
@TomSawyer According to Apple with this news, last year the 3GS had 60k preorders...I presume those 60k >65k from Evo? Don't forget that HTC has many phones. Apple only has "one". So getting the biggest preorders isn't too hard. I mean the customer base will all buy the same phone. HTC customers buying is scattered over many different phones.
@BrookLynnsFinest
I think the funniest thing is how everyone is gonna think apple invented the chat camera simply because they popularized it.
I WILL NEVER LEAVE APPLE.
iPHONE FTW
@yader91 did you even read his comment? It was about how the Android posters were hyping up the EVO, then when it fizzled relative to expectations, decided to say "sales don't count" "ATT screwed up" etc etc...when its the same situation they wanted for the EVO.
Did anyone even read dave1812's first comment? He never said a word about killing the iphone, or android's greatness. While the iphone's impact on the smartphone market is obvious and undeniable, the direct impact of it's sales on him, a BB user, or an android user, is minimal. BB will continue to make phones as they see fit, and android phones will be made to fit their target market. Not everyone needs the same phone, no matter much mass appeal it may have.
@Freddy2Fred
IPhone more advanced than the evo. You must be smoking some good shit