These guys really push their browser versions out WAY too fast. They all have major bugs that they should have caught in beta and alpha testing. Just look how long it takes Mozilla to get through their alpha and beta testing. Months and months and months. And look at how long IE 9 will be in beta/alpha stages before it's released. We're a few months in to the third Platform Preview, and the full version still won't be released until the fall.
Opera needs to stop rushing their "final" builds. They need to spend a few months polishing them up, because they're ALWAYS rough for what should be considered a stable and final build.
@Prevacator I use Opera as my main browser and I cant say I know of any major bugs. Its refreshing to get updates often instead of waiting for a product to be released for ages. Opera all the way for me!
@Prevacator let us know what features are rough in comparison to other browsers... then we can all agree that either Opera team rushes things up or that they are just brilliantly fast.
@azdude well firefox has tons and tons of addons, and with greesemonkey, the possobilities are endless. also opera is still buggy at displaying web pages (if you go to furaffinity.net there are supposed artist info when you hover over a picture on the front page, opera doesnt show it.) opera sync doesnt work if your speed dial already has stuff on another pc. the interface seems rather, akward. yea its got some fast scrolling and all, but its just not for me, especially since it doesnt display all pages correctly. oh and opera on android? horrid, it cant get text right at all. displays most websites all over the place.
@huskie fluff That's not necessarily a bug, the webpage might just be coded poorly. Back in the day when IE had total market domination you could get away with all sorts of horrible bugged coding and it'd sorta work in IE.
@tekdemon well let me say, it works fine on android, firefox android alpha (fennec) dolphin on android, firefox, safari, ie, chrome for pc. and many others. only web browser that has issues is opera and opera mini.
@huskie fluff for furrafinity.net (sorry i forgot to post an example. hover your mouse over an art peaice on the front page, or there names in the art, there is supposed to be a little thing that shows artist info/names. its not there in opera)
Maybe you should tell the coders of the site to follow the standards instead.
The sites i have problems with are far in between, was mostly government sites or banking, but they seem to works these days. If they don't it usually works with "identify as internet explorer".
@Hiki Firefox's Gecko might not be as fast as Webkit, but it's renowned for being very, *very* standards-compliant, often supporting more new standards earlier than other browsers. If it works in Firefox *and* Webkit, it's very unlikely that it's not standards-compliant.
@huskie fluff the reason that opera is the only browser to not do the hover effect is because it's the only browser left out in the javascript code that controls it....
@Prevacator Agreed, Opera is glitchy as buggery. It's like that car that looks great but when you drive it, handles like crap. I just got 10.6 & it couldn't even render the Yahoo hompage fully. There was pics & buttons missing. 10.5 didn't work at all on my mac, just crashed instantly. The turbo thing just compresses pics so much they look like pixelated. And that crap where it has to load a page in memory before displaying means you here a YT video play for almost 30sec before you see anything. In real world net surfing there's no noticeable speed overs & clearly noticeable glitches others don't have.
Opera doesn't work all that good on osx tho, id say its still in beta. Yahoo renders fine for me on windows.
The turbo function is for when you're on a very low bandwidth connection (3g etc), it will speed up load times a lot, but if you're not theres really no point in using it. You can also right click on images and click reload in full quality to get the not compressed image.
I'm not experiencing the youtube problem tho, but I'm not on osx either.
If you try to validate furaffinity you will see that it has a mass of errors! Opera does not particularly like non valid pages which may well be the cause of the problem. This does not mean it is operas fault unfortunately there are too many badly coded pages on the net even though any decent web developer should easily be able to create perfectly formed pages. The Hover overs are using some javascript which I think is causing the problem (which ironically seems to have been put in to solve an earlier CSS problem with opera) why they have not just used a jquery plugin is beyond me.
Opera does indeed not render all pages like other browsers but these problems are not common and are nearly always to do with poor coding of the web page. For the record I have also experienced problems with Firefox, Safari, Chrome and obviously IE so it is not alone and unless amateur web developers are stopped from uploading to the web we will be stuck with this problem for the foreseeable future.
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These guys really push their browser versions out WAY too fast. They all have major bugs that they should have caught in beta and alpha testing. Just look how long it takes Mozilla to get through their alpha and beta testing. Months and months and months. And look at how long IE 9 will be in beta/alpha stages before it's released. We're a few months in to the third Platform Preview, and the full version still won't be released until the fall.
Opera needs to stop rushing their "final" builds. They need to spend a few months polishing them up, because they're ALWAYS rough for what should be considered a stable and final build.
@Prevacator i'm using opera for years and now nothing of those problems you speak of...
@Prevacator I use Opera as my main browser and I cant say I know of any major bugs. Its refreshing to get updates often instead of waiting for a product to be released for ages. Opera all the way for me!
@Prevacator
let us know what features are rough in comparison to other browsers... then we can all agree that either Opera team rushes things up or that they are just brilliantly fast.
@azdude well firefox has tons and tons of addons, and with greesemonkey, the possobilities are endless. also opera is still buggy at displaying web pages (if you go to furaffinity.net there are supposed artist info when you hover over a picture on the front page, opera doesnt show it.)
opera sync doesnt work if your speed dial already has stuff on another pc.
the interface seems rather, akward.
yea its got some fast scrolling and all, but its just not for me, especially since it doesnt display all pages correctly. oh and opera on android? horrid, it cant get text right at all. displays most websites all over the place.
@NonSuch
Don't even lie and say Opera doesn't have page rendering issues, more than any other browser as a matter of fact.
You know it's true, and it's one of the biggest complaints against the browser.
@huskie fluff That's not necessarily a bug, the webpage might just be coded poorly. Back in the day when IE had total market domination you could get away with all sorts of horrible bugged coding and it'd sorta work in IE.
@tekdemon well let me say, it works fine on android, firefox android alpha (fennec) dolphin on android, firefox, safari, ie, chrome for pc. and many others. only web browser that has issues is opera and opera mini.
@huskie fluff for furrafinity.net (sorry i forgot to post an example. hover your mouse over an art peaice on the front page, or there names in the art, there is supposed to be a little thing that shows artist info/names. its not there in opera)
@huskie fluff
Maybe you should tell the coders of the site to follow the standards instead.
The sites i have problems with are far in between, was mostly government sites or banking, but they seem to works these days. If they don't it usually works with "identify as internet explorer".
@Hiki Firefox's Gecko might not be as fast as Webkit, but it's renowned for being very, *very* standards-compliant, often supporting more new standards earlier than other browsers. If it works in Firefox *and* Webkit, it's very unlikely that it's not standards-compliant.
@huskie fluff the reason that opera is the only browser to not do the hover effect is because it's the only browser left out in the javascript code that controls it....
{if(ua){return}var a=navigator.userAgent,m;ua={gecko:0,ie:0,webkit:0};
Notice gecko (FF), IE, and webkit. If opera was placed in there, it would work fine.
@Prevacator Agreed, Opera is glitchy as buggery. It's like that car that looks great but when you drive it, handles like crap. I just got 10.6 & it couldn't even render the Yahoo hompage fully. There was pics & buttons missing. 10.5 didn't work at all on my mac, just crashed instantly. The turbo thing just compresses pics so much they look like pixelated. And that crap where it has to load a page in memory before displaying means you here a YT video play for almost 30sec before you see anything. In real world net surfing there's no noticeable speed overs & clearly noticeable glitches others don't have.
@The Madman
Opera has also been very standards-compliant, they were the first or second browser to do 100/100 in all the acid tests.
And if you see what airgreat15 wrote you can see why it doesn't work on Opera. This is just typical, I've experienced this numerous times.
@addfry3
Opera doesn't work all that good on osx tho, id say its still in beta. Yahoo renders fine for me on windows.
The turbo function is for when you're on a very low bandwidth connection (3g etc), it will speed up load times a lot, but if you're not theres really no point in using it. You can also right click on images and click reload in full quality to get the not compressed image.
I'm not experiencing the youtube problem tho, but I'm not on osx either.
@huskie fluff
If you try to validate furaffinity you will see that it has a mass of errors! Opera does not particularly like non valid pages which may well be the cause of the problem. This does not mean it is operas fault unfortunately there are too many badly coded pages on the net even though any decent web developer should easily be able to create perfectly formed pages. The Hover overs are using some javascript which I think is causing the problem (which ironically seems to have been put in to solve an earlier CSS problem with opera) why they have not just used a jquery plugin is beyond me.
Opera does indeed not render all pages like other browsers but these problems are not common and are nearly always to do with poor coding of the web page. For the record I have also experienced problems with Firefox, Safari, Chrome and obviously IE so it is not alone and unless amateur web developers are stopped from uploading to the web we will be stuck with this problem for the foreseeable future.